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 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: Petition the PM to say "B*llocks to ID cards" |
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http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/IDcards/sign
I understand people are reticent about petitions, but I take the position that I'm probably on every kind of sh*t list by now so sign them anyway
I added the following into the "address" column:
| Quote: | | Kindly book my Jail cell now, becuase Im NOT having an ID card. Regards |
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Hania
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I have thought long and hard about this matter and believe that ID cardsd are the lesser of two evils, I would rather I had one of these, which have been around in other countries for years than have them pu a chip in my body. The other thing is that everytime we shout about something it happens within 5-10 years anyway, so there is no getting away from them.
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| Hania wrote: | | I have thought long and hard about this matter and believe that ID cardsd are the lesser of two evils, I would rather I had one of these, which have been around in other countries for years than have them pu a chip in my body. The other thing is that everytime we shout about something it happens within 5-10 years anyway, so there is no getting away from them. |
Well Hania, that's a reasoned reply, but I'd put it to you that accepting the one will inevitably lead to the other: the only protection is keeping the state in its proper place as our servant, not our master
I won't do so here, but I'd advance the argument in some detail that ID cards are designed to fail and are meerly a stepping stone to the chip, which research at Illusions has credibly shown to have been planned since the early 1970's: in fact, early systems from before that, such as the use IBM business machines were put to in the concentration camps
By all means come and find the gang at illusions, or even better come and check out NO2IDCHIP
http://noidchip.free-forums.org/noidchip.html?sid=68726271e57a650c2bfe c606a7ec1007
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Hania
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| John White wrote: | | Hania wrote: | | I have thought long and hard about this matter and believe that ID cardsd are the lesser of two evils, I would rather I had one of these, which have been around in other countries for years than have them pu a chip in my body. The other thing is that everytime we shout about something it happens within 5-10 years anyway, so there is no getting away from them. |
Well Hania, that's a reasoned reply, but I'd put it to you that accepting the one will inevitably lead to the other: the only protection is keeping the state in its proper place as our servant, not our master
I won't do so here, but I'd advance the argument in some detail that ID cards are designed to fail and are meerly a stepping stone to the chip, which research at Illusions has credibly shown to have been planned since the early 1970's: in fact, early systems from before that, such as the use IBM business machines were put to in the concentration camps
By all means come and find the gang at illusions, or even better come and check out NO2IDCHIP
http://noidchip.free-forums.org/noidchip.html?sid=68726271e57a650c2bfe c606a7ec1007 |
You say that they are our servants, this is a slightly naive look on the govt when we have a political farce running the country that runs it not in servitude but incoporate and economioc power, I have come across a quote from D. Rockefeller
"we are grateful to the washington post, new york times, times magazine and other great
publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises
of discretion for almost 40 years.
It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been
subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the work is now
much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world govt.
The supranational sovereingty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely
preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries"
1991
No end of campaigning can stop things at present, what we need are actions and teh best action is for everyone to spoil their ballot papers, we need to remove a party run system and have a true democracy where anyone can run for leadership and is selected by the people, not corporate idiots that are killing us and the planet.
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No amount of anything can obstruct the agenda as presently poised
Nothing less than a mass camp out in Parliament Square and beyond, on the East European and Lebanon model to bring a corrupt regime down
We have the most long-standing and corrupt regime in the world
How could we best change it?
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| Quote: | You say that they are our servants, this is a slightly naive look on the govt when we have a political farce running the country that runs it not in servitude but incoporate and economioc power, I have come across a quote from D. Rockefeller
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I dont want to get into a discussion about government, its institutions are rotten to the very core, but rather I should say government will BE our servant by the time we have done with it, and we're not going to cow down and let the bloodlines roll over us: those days belong to the past
But I can promise you I'm far from niave, so don't read too far ahead from a single sentance 
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| dh wrote: | No amount of anything can obstruct the agenda as presently poised
Nothing less than a mass camp out in Parliament Square and beyond, on the East European and Lebanon model to bring a corrupt regime down
We have the most long-standing and corrupt regime in the world
How could we best change it? |
By spreading balanced reasons for disbelief in it, by pawning its deceptions, by not being a cog in it, and by dreaming a new dream of our future and bringing it into being (manifestation) with the power of our collective minds intent in bringing about a purpose
After all, this is how reality gets created: and why the sleepers must awaken
but then, I know you well dh so I know we are both on the same mission 
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