The Brandon Corey Story & Cheney

Pikey · Last edited by Pikey on Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:08 pm; edited 1 time in total

Thanx to Angela and the network:-

http://www.truthseekertv.com/

May the power and force of truthseeking be with you!

flamesong · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject:

I realise that this will inevitably invoke criticisms of negativity as has become the habit whenever I point out the fallacy of 'bad science' but I have seen this 'documentary' and it stinks of fake from the first few seconds. I won't go into detail (it hardly merits it here) but it has received a thorough debunking on Conspiracy Central as can be seen here:

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=2931

Apparently, the producers claim that it 'is a movie sold as a faux-documentary so we can bring the mainstream into our fold, into our knowledge paradigm' which, it must be pointed out in bold capitals, IS NOT HOW IT IS ADVERTISED. The highly billed shape-shifting scene does not include Cheney as we are led to believe. It only shows the changing shape of an anonymous 'extra's' pupils and is so poorly executed it is laughable.

It is believed by many that this film was made to destroy David Icke's reputation. I have e-mailed David to express my concerns about this film so that he can take whatever action he deems suitable.

This, once again, shows how a poor level of analysis can be severely damaging to a movement which aims to expose the truth!

John White · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject:

This degenerates "mockumentary" into a fart form

iro · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 376

we've done this to death over at illusions
http://p4.forumforfree.com/1-vt2483-laidbackchat.html?start=0
my thoughts taken from that page:

flamesong · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject:

I think anybody can be forgiven for being curious enough to watch this or even buy it. My mate sent off for it but I managed to download it and watch it before it arrived so I couldn't save his money for him.

Even though it is so obviously fake I sat through it waiting for one glimmer of authenticity. It only came when Ickey appeared because he genuinely believes what he says. The bottom line for me is that it is impossible to make convincing fakes because actors are lying when they speak their lines and most people have bullshít detectors built in to our sensory system.

I cannot imagine that there is any positive or productive purpose to this other than to weedle out the gullible.

Wokeman · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject:

So, why if it is so obviously fake, is this garbage (what other term do you wish: rubbish, stuff for the tip?) still here?

flamesong · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject:

iro · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 376

let pikey speak for himself ... have you seen it pikey?

what are your thoughts on the 'hollywood movie'?

Wokeman · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject:

Yes, I can't imagine why Pikey posted it,

Abandoned Ego · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 288

Just recieved this in my inbox.

I will quote it word for word.

"Two film makers from Hollywood California have produced a ground breaking feature length MOVIE ( note not documentary ) about the global conspiracy and the forces behind it. Never before have Hollywood producers been brave enough to tell the real story of who controls our world and why"

The film, "The brandon Corey story" features a reality television producer in search of his missing friend who has not been seen since he attempted to secretly film US vice president Dick Cheney.

The search leads Corey to overwhelming evidence linking Cheney to secret societies and Satanism, and the film includes an appearance by world renowned British author David Icke, PLAYING HIMSELF.

Sounds to me, Like Icke knows exactly what the score is. It strikes me that this movie is like V for vendetta, or the Matrix, or perhaps the Da Vince code. An amalgum of hard sometimes unpalatable truths, mixed within a "fictional" context.

Perhaps, we shouldnt be focusing our criticisms on this movie, but perhaps looking at those which laughably claim to be based on a true story such as "flight 93"

I know which strikes me as far closer to reality. We might of course argue ad infinitum, and ridicule the whole Idea of Cheney and co being Shapeshifters, but one thing is for certain to my mind. These people are far more akin to emotionless, cold, territorial hoarding reptiles, than they are to human beings.

And of course as anyone with any reasonable depth of understanding knows, ( such as 9/11 Truth movement members perhaps Wink

) , the truth is indeed often stranger than fiction itself.

I like the idea personally. Wonder if Cheney will sue ? Laughing

Ive also spent a while searching info on this, and to the best of my info, I have yet to see it mention anywhere the promise of seeing Cheney shapeshift, as is suggested by another poster on this thread.

In short, its just a film. Icke knows it, and having seen the trailer, he strikes me as a poor actor himself.

flamesong · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject:

Don't misquote me, Abandoned Ego, I am always very careful about what I say.

Abandoned Ego · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 288

Flamesong,

I am only telling you what I have seen from what I have read.

You can read what you want to read into it. I never saw any references to Cheney shapeshifting. We all draw our own conclusions I suppose.

I might be stupid, but it struck me as clear that this was a trailer for a fictional movie along the lines of the matrix, or V for Vendetta, or similar.

Icke plays a terrible actor, but I love the tongue in cheek comment which to paraphrase, goes something like,

" But thats the beauty of it as far as they are concerned, who's ever gonna believe it ?"

And finally;

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:03 am Post subject:

You still can't quote straight, Abandoned Ego!

And cinéma vérité, for your information, may be literally translated as 'truthful cinema' as you suggest, but it is in fact a genre of filmmaking in which, in simple terms, a drama is made to look like a documentary. In this respect it is a poor attempt. Look it up then come back and tell me what your point is, exactly.

And to suggest that I ever posted anything vitreolic about David Icke is of such mendacity that I cannot comprehend what your agenda must be. I have read most of his books and I have cast doubt on some of David's beliefs but I have never spoken ill of him in my life. I have been to David's home on the Isle of Wight and spent the day with him and Pamela as their guest. I have also spoken to him on several occasions on the phone and have occasional bursts of e-mail contact with Pamela. It was clear from the lengthy conversations that we had that David knows that I struggle to accept some of what he says - specifically the reptillian agenda. We were discussing a planned documentary in which I suggested we could encapsulate the essence of what he says for the uninitiated and, in his words, which I remember precisely, he said, 'I think we will leave the reptillian agenda at the door'. The film was never made because David unexpectedly needed to be in America at the time we had agreed to film but I think there was a mutual respect for the small difference of opinion we had. I actually think he is a very decent genuine bloke.

That anything I said of him was 'vitreolic' is now 'irretrievable' is only 'convenient' for you - because it was never said by me. In fact I have been criticised on this very forum for defending David. That you have made such a false allegation and suggested that there was once evidence to prove it dishonours you.

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:25 am Post subject:

In fact, Abandoned Ego the harshest thing I ever said about David is still on this forum. I have some regrets about saying it but in the interest of truth I will quote myself:

Abandoned Ego · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 288

John White · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:32 am Post subject:

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:39 am Post subject:

When you use quotation marks, Abandoned Ego, you are suggesting that their contents are quotations.

I did not say that David Icke was a 'personal friend' or my 'buddy'. I simply made the point that I have never said anything about him which I have not been prepared to say to him directly, whether to his face, by telephone or by e-mail. Including my reservations about this film.

I haven't seen Flight 93 and dio not intend to. But if you are inviting me to compare it as an example of a similar genre, as far as I am aware it is not cinéma vérité.

And I am not snidily backstabbing him. If you read the thread, if anybody is being criticised by me for promoting the film and being gullible it is Pikey (my second post in the thread).

Perhaps I have been misunderstood!

Abandoned Ego · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 288

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:08 am Post subject:

And of your groundless allegations of hidden vitreolic attacks, Abandoned Ego?

Nothing!

What was it you said?

Oh yeah, 'By their deeds shall ye know them'.

How true!

Abandoned Ego · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 288

[quote="flamesong"]And of your groundless allegations of hidden vitreolic attacks, Abandoned Ego?

Shall I quote you , If i may ?

Justin · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:45 am Post subject:

Flamesong, aka Alf, why can't you just get along with people? Once again you are attacking Pikey for merely promoting a film that David Icke endorses on his site. Why can't you be a team player? Why can't you campaign with the rest of us in a pleasant, easy going manner? What has happened to your sense of humour? Please, mate, just stop this appalling abrasiveness which does you no favours.

In peace,

Justin

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:44 am Post subject:

Justin · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:08 am Post subject:

I'm just not interested in your fallings out with people - that's your problem. The school playground doesn't interest me in the slightest. What I'm spending my limited time on worrying about is the current huge US naval build up off the Iranian coast and what may happen next. Suggest you do the same and get the message out about false-flag ops to the masses. Look forward - not back!

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:20 am Post subject:

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:21 am Post subject:

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject:

flamesong · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject:

And what about the following from the Truthseeker TV promotion of this product:

http://www.truthseekertv.com/about.html

'TruthSeeker TV will be an all new Reality Show that dares to go where other shows fear to tread'.
My italics.

'During the course of each episode our truth seeker cameras will embark on a journey to get to the bottom of some of the many mysteries that haunt our popular unconscious.'
My italics.

'The Truthseeker TV Mission Statement:

It is the stated purpose of this Reality TV series to go where other Investigators are too afraid to go. We will not stop until the truth is revealed. there is no politician too intimidating, no power broker we are fearful of, no organization too frightening. Our fact finding missions will not be commercialized or watered down. We will knock on any door, climb through any window, crawl through any underground, and infiltrate any area to bring you, the people, the truth. Our cameras and the people running them have NO FEAR. There is no one (human or not) that will stand in our way. Disinformation be damned. Let the truth prevail!'

http://www.truthseekertv.com/contact.html

'Two years ago this website announced that Truthseeker TV (TTV) was coming to television. Our first episode, “The Brandon Corey Story”, chronicled* the bizarre story of a man who went looking for the truth and came back with evidence that linked Vice President Dick Cheney to secret societies, Bohemian Grove and Satanists.'

*chronicle [definition] noun. An extended account in prose or verse of historical events, sometimes including legendary material, presented in chronological order and without authorial interpretation or comment.

There is every suggestion that even if this is a dramatisation (and they have made many suggestions that it is not a dramatisation), it is based on facts. There does not seem to be any evidence of the existence of any of the characters in this film.

And what about this from their main page, right in the middle of the spiel about this film:
“The New World Order are in a war against the free people of this planet, it’s all part of their terror storm.”
--Alex Jones (with the following picture)

Whilst this may be genuine quote from Alex Jones (probably promoting his own film, Terrorstorm), do you think that Alex Jones would have agreed to this quote being used to endorse this?:
http://www.truthseekertv.com/index.html (scroll down)

Check out the file name of the Alex Jones image, special_alex_everything_tb.jpg
This image was lifted from Alex's website from an old page advertising a special DVD package.

Don't you think he might be a little reticent to put his name to some of these topics:

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You might be an Alien and not even know it. Dr. Troy Sharppe M.D., spends his days travelling the globe, scanning for AWM's (Aliens without memory.)

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(Let's just say some very non-human entities are in the house!)

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Real life ghost hunters have just been contracted by the Federal Government to exterminate dead people. And you'll never guess where some of them are living.

Project X6
The Greatest Conspiracy Theory Never Told. Wake Up America!!! Before it's too late.

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Non - Humans are definitely in the house and we are not afraid to go down there and show you.

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You are not free, you just think you are. Our undercover cameras will bring you into the facility that manufactures the victims that carry out the establishments "dirty work".

John White · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:

Beezlebush · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject:

I believe you.

Shouldn't you other rascals be too busy cutting CD's of 911 Mysteries to deliver to the local populace of Brighton at the december meeting to still be banging on in this negative, divisive, wrist-slittingly tedious fashion??

Answers by diamond cutter on a strip of trinitite!!!!

Beezlebush · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject:

Pikey mate,

Take a step back and look at how your post comes across to other, new people to this group!!

Stop being divisive.

My friend, go cut some CDs and post them in your neighborhood!!!

Why you people scrapping about nonsense??

Answers by diamond cutter on a strip of trinitite!!!!

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