scubadiver Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: Disregarding hijacker DNA |
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There is something very wierd I found in this video on the similarities between 9/11 and JFK (lecture given by Peter Dale Scott)
Richard Clark, Director of Counter-Terrorism activities in the White House, wrote in his book "Against All Enemies" that, when the North Tower collapsed at 9:59, the FBI already had the names of 18 of the 19 suspected hijackers including 3 of the four suspects of flight 93.
What is odd is that Flight 93 had not even crashed at 9:59 and the 9/11 Commission Report states that NORAD weren't aware that Flight 93 had been hijacked until 10:08.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7404458118476453937&q=9%2F11
Interesting video |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 4529
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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I watched this video too and was intrigued by Richard Clarke's statement Dale Scott says he makes in his book.
I checked out the OCT timeline in the 9/11 Commission Report and it says that the UA93 hijack began at 9:28 and the Hendon Command Centre advised the FAA of UA93's hijack at 9:34 and a flight attendant notified UA at 9:36 and that Cleveland Centre advised NEADS (NORAD) at 10:07
Paul Thompson's excellent Timeline at Co-Operative Research tells us that NORAD originally claimed, a week after that UA93 was hijacked at 9:16 and subsequently testified to the 9/11 Commission that they were notified at 9:16 but did not provide any evidence of any FAA communique to support this claim, the only flight for which they provided no FAA communication evidence. The 9/11 Commission subsequently declares the NORAD 9:16 statement as incorrect without offering any explanation. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?day_of_9/11=ua93&timel ine=complete_911_timeline
NORAD NEADS Commander Robert Marr made a statement saying that NEADS had been tracking UA93 since 9:36 which completely contradicts the 9/11 Commission's statement that NORAD were not notified until 10:07
Paul Thompson quotes an NBC report that states at 9:41 the Newark, New Jersey, flight controller Greg Callahan is talking on the phone to an FBI agent. The agent says about Flight 93: “We suspect that this aircraft has now been taken over by hostile forces.” The agent describes the sharp turn it has made over eastern Ohio and that it is now heading back over southwestern Pennsylvania. Callahan says he could tell the plane is on a course for Washington. [MSNBC, 9/11/2002] The FBI has been in contact with Deena Burnett and informed of what her husband, Flight 93 passenger Tom Burnett, has been saying since at least 9:34 a.m. (see 9:34 a.m. September 11, 2001) [Longman, 2002, pp. 110] It is unclear where in the chain of command details of these Flight 93 calls reach, and the 9/11 Commission has not clarified the issue of what the FBI knew and when.
Thompson also says that the FBI listened in on Todd Beamer's Verizon telephone call from UA93 to his wife at 9:45
UA 93 "crashes" at 10:06 and only then does Cleveland Flight Control update NEADS at 10:07
As Thompson says, the 9/11 Commission does not clarify what the FBI knew and when they knew it.
Even so, they must have worked pretty quickly to identify the likely hijackers after requesting and obtaining the passenger list from UA or Newark Airport to already be certain of their names by 9:59 only 31 minutes after the first person knew that UA93 had been hijacked, giving the FBI, even if they knew at that time 9:28, only 6 minutes to track, contact and listen in on Deena Burnett's telephone call at 9:34
Impressive, if uncharacteristic stuff indeed, especially since "officially" NORAD were ignorant about UA93 until 10:07.
The question about NORAD's original 9:16 claim is intriguing also.
Poor old 9/11 Commission eh, once again I am led inevitably to the conclusion that if they accept NORAD's original claim and timeline then thay have a problem with the delayed scrambling of interceptors, so they choose to ignore the original claim and re-characterise it as much later, thereby implicating the FAA, with the blame game compounded by the poor memories of the most recent NORAD evidence, altering their previous testimony.
Guess we'll have to wait for the FBI Air Accident & Criminal Investigation to produce their long awaited report won't we, although, I wouldn't advise the holding of one's breath.
I would, however, encourage everyone to read the excellent Peter Dale Scott. I have only one of his books so far but would recommend it to all. Drugs, Oil and War by Peter Dale Scott _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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