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Short Dialogue with Amnesty International UK

 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject: Short Dialogue with Amnesty International UK Reply with quote



-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Johnson [mailto:ad.johnson@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 16 November 2006 20:37
To: sct@amnesty.org.uk
Subject: I think your AI friends in the USA might need help.

Watch the video linked below. What are you going to do?
 
And exactly when will you be tackling 9/11 Truth Issues? Ever? Or are you just going to quietly ignore them and hope they go away? We're not.
 
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/9-11-Truth-Campaign-Report-PDF.zip
  

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/161106torturedid. htm
 
(video linked on Page above)

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Sent: 06 December 2006 10:46
To: ad.johnson@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: I think your AI friends in the USA might need help.

Dear Andrew,

Thank you for your email. Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying.

Amnesty International has long held concerns over the use of  tasers by police forces around the world, including the US and UK.

A report was released on March 2006, addressing Amnesty's concerns over taser use in the US. This included their use by police forces as well as in the context of the "war on terror". The full report can be found at http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR510302006.

A report on the introduction of tasers by the police force in Northern Ireland also draws on the experience and examples of their use in the US: http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=17112

We are also concerned about the wider issue of the erosion of justice and human rights in the name of counter terrorism, following the attacks of 11th September 2001. Further information can be found at http://www.amnesty.org.uk/content.asp?CategoryID=10379.

I hope that this is useful and helps address your concerns.

Yours sincerely,

[Named Person]
Supporter Care Team
Amnesty International UK
Tel: 020 7033 1777

We have moved! Our new address is:

Amnesty International UK
The Human Rights Action Centre
17-25 New Inn Yard
London
EC2A 3EA


My Response to that:

Dear Matt,
 
Thank you for your kind response regarding the Tasering of the student for refusing to show ID. The links you sent do not adequately address the issue, but thanks for sending them.
 
There are 2 issues which are of concern here. This student was tasered in a computer lab on campus, for refusing to show ID - he was not accused of theft or assault even.
 
The 2nd issue is more serious, and I have attempted to bring it to the attention of AI-UK and US for some time (over 12 months). 9/11 Was an Inside Job. 3000 people in New York were killed in a false-flag terrorist operation which was blamed on Muslims.
 
Video evidence, eye and earwitness testimony proves the WTC towers were destroyed with pre-planted explosives, and probably the use of other techniques. WTC 7 was demolished for no apparent reason. This proves the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory) is false in some key respects.
 
I have been a member of Amnesty International for about 10 years. I now have a choice: retain my membership because Amnesty people do good work in defending human rights or, resign my membership because it will not publicly comment even (let alone take action) on the biggest crime in history, committed with the complicity of mainstream media.
 
If Amnesty will not even comment on the 9/11 Truth Campaign, then I will tend towards drawing the conclusion that AI is a "fly-paper" organisation, meant to attract people of good conscience and get them to think the battle for human rights is being won. Whilst in isolated cases, this is true, in the case of 9/11, Amnesty has completely failed - and the Bush Administration, and those who have conspired with it to execute 9/11, will not be criticised or tackled by Amnesty.
 
9/11 Truth campaigners include War Veterans (www.v911t.org), scholars (www.st911.org) millionaires (www.reopen911.org) and "American patriots" (http://patriotsquestion911.com/). Yet Amnesty, and other organisations are still ignoring the issue, even though at least one of these sites (above) has been established for about 2 years.
 
I have therefore been explaining to everyone I meet that Amnesty is not interested in this issue. Needless to say, those who know of Amnesty and know of 9/11 Truth issues express shock and surprise.
 
So, will you again ignore this message or will you do one of 2 things?
 
1) Research the issue yourself (using the links above, or others - or even the DVD I sent to your organisation recently) and say nothing to anyone else because you are afraid of sharing the information?
 
2) Pass this message out to others in the organisation and challenge the leadership to comment about the evidence I have pointed out to you?
 
The decision is yours as to what you do. Meanwhile, I will be doing what I think it necessary - and I will continue to point out to other AI's surprising disinterest in issue for as long as this is evident.
 
Yours Sincerely
 
Andrew Johnson
 
British 9/11 Truth Campaign (www.nineeleven.co.uk)
Scholars for 9/11 Truth (www.st911.org)

 


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Andrew,

As a fellow member of AI I too have wrestled with the decision of "should I stay or should I go".

I have given AI the benefit of the doubt until now, largely due to my own inertia in cancelling my DD payments, however, I'd be intrugued to see their response to your follow up, assuming they do reply and you are prepared to share it on the forum.

Thanks once again for your lead.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about the green party?

is anyone a member?

i was told they have a policy on the 'new world order'.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-----Original Message-----
From: Iain.Gilmore@amnesty.org.uk [mailto:Iain.Gilmore@amnesty.org.uk]On Behalf Of SCT@amnesty.org.uk
Sent: 15 December 2006 16:58
To: ad.johnson@ntlworld.com
Subject: RE: I think your AI friends in the USA might need help.



Dear Andrew,

Thank you for your email. I am sorry for the delay in replying to you.

Please allow me to take this opportunity to explain the work that we do and our mission.

Amnesty International works on specific human rights violations and our mission focuses in particular on:

campaigning to abolish the death penalty, torture, and other forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment;
ending extra-judicial executions and "disappearances";
protecting the human rights of refugees and asylum seekers;
protecting the human rights of non-combatants in armed conflicts;
working for fair and prompt trials for all political prisoners;
seeking the release of all prisoners of conscience.

Amnesty International has not commented on the theories of the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. As Amnesty International has limited resources we can only focus on issues strictly within our remit, as outlined above.

Yours sincerely,

Iain Gilmore
Supporter Care Team
Amnesty International UK
Tel: 020 7033 1777

We have moved! Our new address is:

Amnesty International UK
The Human Rights Action Centre
17-25 New Inn Yard
London
EC2A 3EA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Johnson [mailto:ad.johnson@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 15 December 2006 17:40
To: SCT@amnesty.org.uk
Subject: RE: I think your AI friends in the USA might need help.


Dear Iain,

Thanks for your honest response. Whilst I appreciate its content, this is more or less the response I expected. I believe it won't be too long before AI is forced into changing this response on this issue - as it has resulted in the biggest attack on Human Rights in recent history and should be viewed in this light.

Yours Sincerely,

Andrew Johnson

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