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Check out the following clip and notice two things:
1: The left wing disappears immediately before impact.
2: In order to camouflage this anomaly the News Nazis have their CNN banner almost 1/3 of the way up the screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXsXp4DUUn4
I have been thinking about this for the last few days and intuitively I feel that there was no plane involved in the second hit.
And if no plane was involved in the second hit, this leads me to believe that no plane was involved in the first either. There, I have said it!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: Re: CNN = Corporate Nazi News |
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| prole art threat wrote: | Check out the following clip and notice two things:
1: The left wing disappears immediately before impact.
2: In order to camouflage this anomaly the News Nazis have their CNN banner almost 1/3 of the way up the screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXsXp4DUUn4
I have been thinking about this for the last few days and intuitively I feel that there was no plane involved in the second hit.
And if no plane was involved in the second hit, this leads me to believe that no plane was involved in the first either. There, I have said it! |
Can someone explain why the CNN banner is where it is?
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You all seem to be a little bit backward in coming forward to reply to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXsXp4DUUn4
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Only just seen this, so I will respond as soon as humanly possible.
Corporate stamping is paramount when it comes to news and who gets it out there first. The CNN logo from 2001 was a fixed item and not fluid to fit the shape of the images being broadcast. I think they are too big, it would seem, so to do you.
In an ideal world, logos would be a lot smaller - unfortunately, news coverage is ego driven, so big it is and big it will remain. It is nothing new or specific to 9/11 items.
Take the item below on Steve Irwin's death. It is from an interview, with Steve and at least a third of his face is covered by nonsense - this is the way of things.
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| telecasterisation wrote: | Only just seen this, so I will respond as soon as humanly possible.
Corporate stamping is paramount when it comes to news and who gets it out there first. The CNN logo from 2001 was a fixed item and not fluid to fit the shape of the images being broadcast. I think they are too big, it would seem, so to do you.
In an ideal world, logos would be a lot smaller - unfortunately, news coverage is ego driven, so big it is and big it will remain. It is nothing new or specific to 9/11 items.
Take the item below on Steve Irwin's death. It is from an interview (on CNN), with Steve and at least a third of his face is covered by nonsense - this is the way of things.
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Tele, first of all you have presented us with a 'still' so there is no way of knowing if it was just flagging up momentarily. My refernce to the CNN clip of the second 'hit' shows that the border between the banner and the bottom of the screen is ridiculously wider than it needed to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXsXp4DUUn4
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Hmm, Prole Art Threat, now from this do I detect a hologram theorist?
I mean, I align myself, though currently refuse to engage in endless pointless and divisive argument, with the more sensible proponents, ie those non-lifeofbrianists from Rosalee Grable to David Shayler. Presumably, the after-event cartoonists would have been able to stabilize their inserted image, whereas the realtime out there 3D cartoonists would have been relying on a relatively unpublicly tested technology which may well have blipped slightly in this and other footage
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| Quote: | | Tele, first of all you have presented us with a 'still' so there is no way of knowing if it was just flagging up momentarily. My refernce to the CNN clip of the second 'hit' shows that the border between the banner and the bottom of the screen is ridiculously wider than it needed to be. |
I have agreed that banners and logos are bigger than we would like. I also pointed out that this is not a phenomenon linked solely to 9/11.
The still from the Irwin piece was merely to illustrate the point from a recent news item without wading through the entire thing and it does not in any way 'flag up momentarily' and exists for the entire item.
Here it is;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZNorAxKL0
Just at random, here is another concerning a Russian plane crash;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvtfWJJHSnU
We both agree there are too large, but there is nothing suspicious about large banners. As Captain Kirk said to Charlie X, ''It's no fun facing it, but that's the way things are'.
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| dh wrote: | Hmm, Prole Art Threat, now from this do I detect a hologram theorist?
I mean, I align myself, though currently refuse to engage in endless pointless and divisive argument, with the more sensible proponents, ie those non-lifeofbrianists from Rosalee Grable to David Shayler. Presumably, the after-event cartoonists would have been able to stabilize their inserted image, whereas the realtime out there 3D cartoonists would have been relying on a relatively unpublicly tested technology which may well have blipped slightly in this and other footage |
Im sure the tests on these holographic images would have been carried out many, many times. Im sure there would have been vigorous practice tests. Even if it had blipped, they could have give it another go. I still stand by my theory that a mixture of technology was at hand that morning, this would have included a contigency plan to fall back on some except I have dropped the idea of planes. If you think about it, I would have thought a fault with an aircraft would have been much more likely to have sent the entire project to *, especially if the target(s) was missed.
Passenger airliners are far too fukking clumsy and the stakes were too high.
If it was missiles, which I deem it was, where would it have been fired from? Im thinking along the lines that WTC7 was probably the most likely launchpad, particularly for the second hit.
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Oh for goodness sake will you lot knuckle down and start doing something HELPFUL like telling the sheep about rockefeller, Bilderburg and the New World Order instead of going back over this rediculous contentious bull!
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Can you very simply just precis exactly how the live video feeds showing an aircraft were manipulated without any technicians or cameramen on-site around NY and Ground Zero flagging up that an aircraft really wasn't there?
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If it was missiles, which I deem it was, where would it have been fired from? Im thinking along the lines that WTC7 was probably the most likely launchpad, particularly for the second hit. |
Well somewhere quite near. I recall that piece of footage where the plane materialised out of nowhere in a clear blue sky, though can't find it at pres
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| Hazzard wrote: | Oh for goodness sake will you lot knuckle down and start doing something HELPFUL like telling the sheep about rockefeller, Bilderburg and the New World Order instead of going back over this rediculous contentious bull!
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In some ways I agree with you Hazzard, which is why I've consciously stayed out of much of these NPT threads. Still I hold Prole Art in a bit of a high regard, so decided to persue
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| telecasterisation wrote: | prole art threat said;
| Quote: | | Tele, first of all you have presented us with a 'still' so there is no way of knowing if it was just flagging up momentarily. My refernce to the CNN clip of the second 'hit' shows that the border between the banner and the bottom of the screen is ridiculously wider than it needed to be. |
I have agreed that banners and logos are bigger than we would like. I also pointed out that this is not a phenomenon linked solely to 9/11.
The still from the Irwin piece was merely to illustrate the point from a recent news item without wading through the entire thing and it does not in any way 'flag up momentarily' and exists for the entire item.
Here it is;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZNorAxKL0
Just at random, here is another concerning a Russian plane crash;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvtfWJJHSnU
We both agree there are too large, but there is nothing suspicious about large banners. As Captain Kirk said to Charlie X, ''It's no fun facing it, but that's the way things are'. |
These banners are carrying messages and extra information whilst the banner on the CNN clip I supplied of the second attack is just a black strip which serves no purpose whatsoever, as well as a gaping divide between the black strip and the botton of the screen. It;s not about the size of the banner, it is about sloppy irrelevant nature of it's position which suggests an ulterier motive.
I find it difficult to conceive that they would cover up half of the impact with a black strip. Most of the banners on your clips are appearing when reporters are merely talking, they are not concealing 'action shots'. This is literally a cover-up. Take another look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXsXp4DUUn4
It looks totally amateurish. This was the most important news event of the 21st Century and what do CNN do? They cover up half of the 'plane' with a useless, unsightly blank banner ? It's like getting a front row seat at wembly arena to watch a band and then proceeding to wear dark sunglasses throughout the performance.
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If it was missiles, which I deem it was, where would it have been fired from? Im thinking along the lines that WTC7 was probably the most likely launchpad, particularly for the second hit.
Missiles?? Missiles being launched in the middle of Manhattan on 9/11?
The number of 'expert' witnesses about at the time, police, fire crews, news cameramen and photographers - and missiles being launched out of adjacent buildings with everyone looking skyward.
No.
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| telecasterisation wrote: | If it was missiles, which I deem it was, where would it have been fired from? Im thinking along the lines that WTC7 was probably the most likely launchpad, particularly for the second hit.
Missiles?? Missiles being launched in the middle of Manhattan on 9/11?
The number of 'expert' witnesses about at the time, police, fire crews, news cameramen and photographers - and missiles being launched out of adjacent buildings with everyone looking skyward.
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You have to remember everybody's eyes are focussed on the north tower.
It wasnt planes. That is a certainty.
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| prole art threat wrote: | | You all seem to be a little bit backward in coming forward to reply to this. |
Might be cos we're tired of shills? Or could be cos this bit of "evidence" has been debunked 10 times in the last 2 weeks? Keep pushing it boy, your jobs on the line!
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| Thermate wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: | | You all seem to be a little bit backward in coming forward to reply to this. |
Might be cos we're tired of shills? Or could be cos this bit of "evidence" has been debunked 10 times in the last 2 weeks? Keep pushing it boy, your jobs on the line! |
Are you telling me this there is nothing suspect about the CNN banner on this clip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXsXp4DUUn4
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| prole art threat wrote: | | telecasterisation wrote: | If it was missiles, which I deem it was, where would it have been fired from? Im thinking along the lines that WTC7 was probably the most likely launchpad, particularly for the second hit.
Missiles?? Missiles being launched in the middle of Manhattan on 9/11?
The number of 'expert' witnesses about at the time, police, fire crews, news cameramen and photographers - and missiles being launched out of adjacent buildings with everyone looking skyward.
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You have to remember everybody's eyes are focussed on the north tower.
It wasnt planes. That is a certainty. |
There were dozens of cameras taking in both towers - a perspective demonstrated by the volume of footage we have access to. Are you suggesting that not one captured a missile streaking from a nearby building?
There were people watching from adjacent buildings, unable to even see the north tower - is there one witness statement that suggests missiles?
A missile would clearly be seen.
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| prole art threat wrote: | | Thermate wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: | | You all seem to be a little bit backward in coming forward to reply to this. |
Might be cos we're tired of shills? Or could be cos this bit of "evidence" has been debunked 10 times in the last 2 weeks? Keep pushing it boy, your jobs on the line! |
Are you telling me this there is nothing suspect about the CNN banner on this clip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXsXp4DUUn4 |
I am not sure what my suspicion would be if I was. I am not suspicious it is big - I am sure of that.
It is an ABC broadcast with footage supplied by CNN - have you checked other CNN footage of other events from the same year - are they a lot smaller? I find most networks use the same large 'banner in the left hand corner' approach regradless of content.
So to answer your question - no. It is highly consistent with day-to-day newscasting practices of that time and now. If CNN usually have smaller banners, or banners in a different place on the screen - then yes - they don't though.
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: | | telecasterisation wrote: | If it was missiles, which I deem it was, where would it have been fired from? Im thinking along the lines that WTC7 was probably the most likely launchpad, particularly for the second hit.
Missiles?? Missiles being launched in the middle of Manhattan on 9/11?
The number of 'expert' witnesses about at the time, police, fire crews, news cameramen and photographers - and missiles being launched out of adjacent buildings with everyone looking skyward.
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You have to remember everybody's eyes are focussed on the north tower.
It wasnt planes. That is a certainty. |
There were dozens of cameras taking in both towers - a perspective demonstrated by the volume of footage we have access to. Are you suggesting that not one captured a missile streaking from a nearby building?
There were people watching from adjacent buildings, unable to even see the north tower - is there one witness statement that suggests missiles?
A missile would clearly be seen. |
Yes. On the Loose Change documentary a newscaster says "They thought they saw a missile". Im sure it was Loose Change. I will hunt it down, maybe it was 'September 11th Revisited'? Anyway, the missile sighting was swallowed up when this information was misconstrued in the making of the first 'Loose Change', when the makers of LC wrongly demonstrated that the 'missile' in question was launched from the plane which hit the North Tower.
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So to answer your question - no. It is highly consistent with day-to-day newscasting practices of that time and now. If CNN usually have smaller banners, or banners in a different place on the screen - then yes - they don't though. |
What about the positioning of the banner, does that not appear to be slovenly and wasteful?
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Wasteful, shamelessly wasteful, slovenly to the point of absurdity. Horrifically vast, ludicrously daft and designed by a moron.
However, I did ask earlier;
Can you very simply just precis exactly how the live video feeds showing an aircraft were manipulated without any watching technicians or cameramen on-site around NY and Ground Zero flagging up that an aircraft really wasn't there?
Your response?
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| telecasterisation wrote: | Wasteful, shamelessly wasteful, slovenly to the point of absurdity. Horrifically vast, ludicrously daft and designed by a moron.
However, I did ask earlier;
Can you very simply just precis exactly how the live video feeds showing an aircraft were manipulated without any watching technicians or cameramen on-site around NY and Ground Zero flagging up that an aircraft really wasn't there?
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Im pretty sure the first hit was a manipulation. Only ONE image of the first impact was caught and that was by the Naudet brothers. Easy, peasey, lemon squeezy. The second was a tiny laser guided missile used in conjunction with state of the art, holographic technology to dress it up to look like a regular aircraft. This was the one captured by cameras and witnessed by those in the wtc vicinity. The holographic image will only be able to be seen from a short distance which explains why that clip I linked up before shows no plane. This is the clip I am talking about and I am sure it is not a fake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpJdjhl-a_U&mode=related&search=
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| telecasterisation wrote: | Wasteful, shamelessly wasteful, slovenly to the point of absurdity. Horrifically vast, ludicrously daft and designed by a moron.
However, I did ask earlier;
Can you very simply just precis exactly how the live video feeds showing an aircraft were manipulated without any watching technicians or cameramen on-site around NY and Ground Zero flagging up that an aircraft really wasn't there?
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The same way the cameramen who did the filming of the faked moon landings - they had their palms greased and if they wanted to live kept their fcuking traps shut |
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Thanks for this, DH. ( * some hoodie just let off a screaming firework right outside of my window, christ on a fukking moped I nearly had a heart attack. I thought it was a missile coming for me!  )
DH, once you open up to the NPT , all the answers come to you. This is the path we should be following. We must try and discover what technology is available. NPT rids us of the hijackers and jet fuel and 'sets us free' to concentrate and expend our energies on a theory that will not be so easily debunked by the critics. The only problem we have as far as I can see have is the disappearance of the people on the flight manifests. This is a problem the Pentagon hit has presented us with from day one. It would be realy exciting if once the NPT becomes popular, more witnesses stand up and admit they didnt see a plane either. Anyway, Im rambling, Im gonna have a cuppa and have a butchers at this 9/11 stealth website, Cheers, mate!
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