lets talk flight 93 to get a better understanding

[marky 54]

whats the latest story on flight 93, i remember them saying it vapourised on imapct, i then heard that the plane buried its self and was linked to piece of plane(maybe engine) being dug up. where is the rest of plane? we see a crater impact with black charred soil around it from the air. is the offical story that the plane buried itself or vapourised or other.

[rodin]

Fresh meat on 911 esp. Flt 93

http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index.php?topic=6891.0

dB

[marky 54]

nope not fresh meet, just trying to figure which offical version is the one critics believe, evidance based. the link you provided isnt any help it just accuses people, im not after accusing anyone on this subject just evidance as to what happened.

[rodin]

There is a very interesting analysis on Flt 93 that matches the audio recording from inside the plane with a credible hypothesis. Did you get that far or was your 'mustn't be an antisemite' brainwashing preventing you from reading that far. Or are you part of the cover up?

You want truth you have to look in dark places. Otherwise you are wasting yours and others time.

9/11 truth campaign censors research because it 'accuses someone'

What ludicrous sloppy thinking.

Jeeez! Maybe 911 happened without human involvement. We MUST be accusing someone. Is it just that we can't accuse MOSSAD is it? The 5 dancing Israelis were MOSSAD as even Shayler admitted on SKEW. Oh I see - only Shayler is allowed to accuse MOSSAD

Sharpen up your logic mate or you will never get close to the truth.

[rodin]

The hijackers made their jumps at an altitude of about 7000 feet when the plane was going at 150 knots or less. Probably why they chose planes with low ballast - fewer passengers - it makes it easier to reduce the speed of the plane right down at those altitudes.

The transponder information gives FL93's altitude at 7.000 feet when it was turned on for three minutes near the end of its flight.

The sequence of events goes like this:

1) The hijackers are assembled in the cockpit. They are setting the flight controls to fly the plane at 7000 feet and a low speed.

2) The passengers are mounting for an attack - they group together at the door of the cockpit and start ramming a food cart into it. The hijackers have to act soon.

3) The hijackers have got the plane at the right altitude and speed now and it is flying over an unpopulated area of Pennsylvania and nearby in Kutztown is a parachute center; people descending in parachutes would go uncommented in this area.

4) The hijackers' voices can be heard on the CVR saying, "Down, down etc." Bring the plane down. The passengers are getting antsy; they want to bust the door open; they know what happened to the other planes by now (some of them anyway); a hijacker asks if he should hold up an axe to the door window to frighten the passengers.

5) 'is it time, is it time now" asks a hijacker, asking is it time to release the gas and incapacitate the passengers - they need to do this as close to the crash as possible to make it seem as if the passengers stopped talking because the plane crashed. this is 10:00.

6) The transponder is turned on - this is to alert the Mossad learjet that the plane is where it is now; the learjet will arrive and watch the plane spiral down into a death dive and then the learjet will detonate the bomb on board as the plane crashes (hence ordnance smoke plume caught by Val McClutchey's camera).

The transponder also tells the investigators that the plane was at 7000 feet at this point in time - between 10:00 and 10:03.

7) The hijackers at 10:00 release the gas into the main cabin. Instantly the passengers go silent although their cell phones are still running recording the silence on the plane.

The hijackers check their gear; parachutes and respirators, flip off the transponder; check that the plane is on the FMCS set flight path, and then go to an exit.

9) Between 10:03 and 10:06, nearer 10:03 than 10:06, the hijackers open the exit door. Thereafter wind sounds can be heard on the CVR and cell phones. A mechanical sound is heard as the door is opened. A couple of people waking up from the anesthetic drug scream, then collapse back into unconsciousness.

10) They jump out, open their parachutes and land; they call their contacts by cell phone and are whisked away never to be seen again. They are now in Israel.

11) At 10:06, the plane crashes nose-cone first into the filled-in mine. The people in the white Learjet watch. As the plane hits the ground, the Mossad agents in the plane detonate the bomb(s) on the plane. The plane shatters into bits and pieces. All the evidence is destroyed except a couple of the black boxes - where we get the CVR evidence from. McClutchey captures the famous ordnance smoke plume on her camera. (The FBI later confiscate it also taking the hard drive/memory card with them).

12) The Learjet flies away to its private landing strip and the Mossad operatives are whisked away to israel when it's safe to do so.

The Mossad agents practised on their own jets before the 9/11 attack. Israel's El Al fleet are Boeings 757 and 767. This as well as the fact that these planes can be remotely controlled is the reason these planes were chosen by them to be attacked.

[marky 54]

[rodin]

You really should read those pages. I think debus is a very good analyst - he was being tested by Darryl Bradford Smith (arch sceptic - and we need sceptic) because he thinks micronuke. So do I. Take a look at my post on the burning cars/unharmed trees on the beam weapon thread.
Now I must sleep.

dB

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[marky 54]

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I can’t be the only one here who, when reading someone’s nickname and a few of their posts, mentally conjures up an image of what I think that person looks like.

So forget all this Shanksville nonsense, how do others view marky?

My view is below;

[marky 54]

i take it you think theres nothing strange about the crashsite. it looks like a cartoon hole in the ground that the plane just fitted through and left no wreckage, luggage or anything that looks like a plane had been there apart from the hole. you would expect devastating damage but not nothing around the impact site. yes id expect some to be buried but not the whole plane.

[marky 54]

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[marky 54]

if the plane crashed nose down and mostly buried itself, how where debris found miles away from the site? and how did trees get severed along its flight path when the micky mouse shape in the floor in the picture above clearly shows there are no trees when flying directly downward out of the sky(ie nose down).


http://pittsburgh.about.com/library/pictures/shanksville/uc_flight_93- 2.htm there are a number of photos with statements please check all to see what im refering to.

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[marky 54]

other points of intrest is these two eye witness statements, both reported by media of sorts, were these on your main news channels? no just the web then as usual, the major news channels and commission report no doubt ignore these statements.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/flight_93.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/new/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682

[marky 54]

lots of photos here from close up to far away, very little plane in any picture if any, and im being generious.

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight93/gallery.html

[marky 54]

reports of a secondary debris field? failure to disclouse if it was caused by an explosion in the air?

http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_secondary_debris_field.html

[marky 54]

http://www.rumourmillnews.com/cgi-bin/archives.cgi?noframes;read=74928

another report

[marky 54]

alot of people who live near the crashsite call the offical storey a patriotic pack of lies according to one of the links above. and i ask you who would know better? eyewitnesses or people arriving at an empty field with an hole in it.

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