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Hazzard
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 Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: Response to my letter about ID scheme |
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I recently sent a letter to my city MP reprisentative for my city, warning him about the dangers of an ID card scheme, the riots that would incure if it were to be made manditory, and the similarities that it shares with Nazi doctrine and control methods.
This was his condesending and patronising reply which in actual fact only confirmed what I had originaly said.
This was my response.
| Quote: | Dear Alan Williams,
Thank you so much for your swift reply to my letter about the ID card scheme.
However, I was disappointed that you did not quash my fears about this totalitarian scheme and the slippery slope that it brings us to.
You described the ID card in detail; I must tell you that I am well aware of biometrics, what they are, and how they work. I say this because you are obviously confident in the system described and this is proof of sorts that you do not truly understand the system yourself, or that you have not actually looked at what is being presented. I am sorry if this sounds disrespectful, by no means is it meant to be but for me this is an important issue that must not be lost under pleasantries.
The system has already been cracked wide open. RFID is a good example. These are being placed into passports and already they are easily hacked and and information stolen directly from the passport without even touching it.
I am sure you will tell me that the system will not go ahead until it is foolproof. I am telling you now that it will never be foolproof.
Parliament seems convinced that every so called "good citizen" carrying a card "proving" who they really are will some how stop terrorism, or in fact even lower the risk. This is preposterous! This kind of system can never stop a dedicated fanatic from carrying out any kind of attack. The only thing this system does well, is to allow big brother to control the actions of its good citizens. A wonderful example of history repeating. Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it and as the good Thomas Jefferson once said, "The man who would choose security over freedom deserves neither." and he will get none sir!
I implore you to stop listening to your so-called leaders and think critically. A bulwark system is being created in the name of stopping terrorism. The system WILL be used against the people, whether it is our grandsons or our great-great-grandsons you sir are apart of the decision making that will result in this country becoming a guiding light for tyranny around the globe.
Sometimes I feel that parliament does not represent the feelings and wishes of the people. Because I tell you this now sir, no educated or wise man alive in this country today will wish for an ID card or database scheme! Because they know, what it leads to. No matter how many "dirty bombs" or terrorist attacks occur, no amount of totalitarian schemes can stop it. Can’t you understand this? The only thing that schemes such as this can accomplish is to bring the citizens to their knees under absolute domination over time if need be.
If you wish to know my true opinion. I think terrorism is being used as a vessel of control the world over.
I do not wish to seem impetuous but I feel this situation deserves some kind of urgency in my tone. I wish only to know your true feelings and I hope I can make it clear to you the error of Parliaments thinking if they continue along this dreaded route that has been well trodden throughout history.
Yours sincerely,
Aaron Whitehead |
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Hazzard
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Is anyone else concerned about ID cards?
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PaulStott
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Yes - lots of people.
I even met some activists at the Utrecht Anarchist Bookfair who told me that Holland is going through exactly the same process as the UK.
Scary. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Hazzard wrote: | | Is anyone else concerned about ID cards? |
Unquestionably yes.
There was a recent TV documentary where it was shown how easy it is to simply scan your ID card from a distance and all your personal information obtained in a second. This was acquired with non-specialist equipment, merely stuff bought off the shelf.
It was a detailed programme that showed the considerable downsides of carrying such a piece of plastic around. It will open up a completely new world of unprecedented global cloning crime.
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jason67
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Didnt Labour say in 1997 when the got elected that they wouldnt introduce them?
Then John Reid (or Charles Clarke) came out and said that they would not be compulsary, but if you want to renew your passport you have to get an ID card.
How many people in this country have passports?? 90% or more??
What a joke, and people I speak to dont seem to care about this. Maybe because they THINK they "have nothing to hide"
Not sure they will be saying the same thing in 20 years time though. |
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | Hazzard wrote: | | Is anyone else concerned about ID cards? |
Unquestionably yes.
There was a recent TV documentary where it was shown how easy it is to simply scan your ID card from a distance and all your personal information obtained in a second. This was acquired with non-specialist equipment, merely stuff bought off the shelf.
It was a detailed programme that showed the considerable downsides of carrying such a piece of plastic around. It will open up a completely new world of unprecedented global cloning crime. |
'Suspect Nation' on More4 20/11 and several times since. |
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iro
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| jason67 wrote: | Didnt Labour say in 1997 when the got elected that they wouldnt introduce them?
Then John Reid (or Charles Clarke) came out and said that they would not be compulsary, but if you want to renew your passport you have to get an ID card.
How many people in this country have passports?? 90% or more??
What a joke, and people I speak to dont seem to care about this. Maybe because they THINK they "have nothing to hide"
Not sure they will be saying the same thing in 20 years time though. |
what you actually assume that politicians keep their word or never lie?
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jason67
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| iro wrote: | | jason67 wrote: | Didnt Labour say in 1997 when the got elected that they wouldnt introduce them?
Then John Reid (or Charles Clarke) came out and said that they would not be compulsary, but if you want to renew your passport you have to get an ID card.
How many people in this country have passports?? 90% or more??
What a joke, and people I speak to dont seem to care about this. Maybe because they THINK they "have nothing to hide"
Not sure they will be saying the same thing in 20 years time though. |
what you actually assume that politicians keep their word or never lie?
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Hi iro,
No, thats all they do.....Lie.
Lying is part of the job. |
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