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it's snowballing!
anyone have predictions on what will happen?
what preparations can we make?
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False flag > Blame Iran > Bomb Iran to dust > Take care of Middle East > Go whole sale on Nazi police state creation on this island.
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"blow wide open"
That'll be all the gas from the baked beans!
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"Blown right open" is bit optimistic, most people don´t give a nonsense as long as thier little life´s all cosy.
And even if they did and wanted action they´d get bumped off for being terrorists.
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| Bicnarok wrote: | "Blown right open" is bit optimistic, most people don´t give a nonsense as long as thier little life´s all cosy.
And even if they did and wanted action they´d get bumped off for being terrorists. |
What will happen is that a "respectable" CTist will appear on Newsnight.
Paxman will say "But don't half of you believe the planes were really holograms, and the other half believe the Towers were destroyed by Star Wars Beam Weapons?"
Mr Respectable will blush hugely on national TV, and the rest of the "movement" will get drunk together and wonder where it all went wrong.
That's what will happen, and you'll all deserve the shame that goes with it, because you have no evidence.
Jesus H Christ. Isn't it blindingly obvious?
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| Ignatz wrote: | because you have no evidence.
Jesus H Christ. Isn't it blindingly obvious? |
.....I'll tell you what is blindingly obvious.....that we're always going to have to put up with comical fellows like you.
Just once. Explain to me, in your own words, how the South Tower collapsed at free-fall speed reducing itself to thousands of tons of pulverised dust before it hit the ground. Explain how massive steel columns were severed into short lengths simultaneously at each level to make the collapse perfectly symmetrical (as well as resistanceless). Explain where the pools of molten metal came from and why they stayed liquid in the basements for months after 9/11.
Maybe I never understood the Law of Conservation of Energy in the first place. Come on, smart boy, I'm all ears. |
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Disingenuous and in the wrong section as usual ignatz.
I think you will find that most beaners are also NPTers...but dont let that cloud your agenda.
Someone please ban this fool, hes basically begging for it, give him what he wants.
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Ignatz you are a "critic" who has no respect for truth, the purpose of this website, or those who dare raise fair and reasonable questions of the official version and demand the evidence.
You like a handful of others abuse the rules of this website forum and continually come out of critics corner. Can I suggest that for 2007 you take a different approach and read David Ray Griffins "The New Pearl Harbour, disturbing questions about 911 and the Bush administration"
| Quote: | That's what will happen, and you'll all deserve the shame that goes with it, because you have no evidence.
Jesus H Christ. Isn't it blindingly obvious? |
Absolute hyprocracy!
You and your fellow critics have been given the opportunity to provide evidence and proof to substantiate the official comspiracy of 911, that 19 Arab Muslims armed with stanley knifes were responsible for the appalling crime.
To date the sad fact is there has been no evidence or proof provided by any critic other than to regurgitate the content of the Keane commission report (eg. a CCTV picture of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon)
Top earning, supposedly public servants, were paid substantial amounts of money to provide that evidence. Over five years on and the global human population is still waiting Ignatz!
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| Pikey wrote: | | Ignatz you are a "critic" who has no respect for truth, the purpose of this website, or those who dare raise fair and reasonable questions of the official version and demand the evidence. |
Read NIST for evidence. Read the testimony of FDNY. View the photos and reports where every bucketful of loose debris from GZ went down conveyors to be hand-picked for evidence.
If you have a different view - provide contrary evidence. I don't see any coming from you guys. Just unsubstantiated opinions. Jesus, even when you quote so-called "free-fall" times from NIST you refuse to acknowledge what it is the timings relate to.
Check Critics Corner yourself. I laid myself wide open down there, and got no takers. Nobody has checked the photo I provided (or any other(s) of their own choosing) for significant evidence of "cut" steel.
Why not???? Because there is no such evidence. No Truther will take it on, because to do so would undermine their own belief-driven delusion.
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You like a handful of others abuse the rules of this website forum and continually come out of critics corner.
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Joe McCarthy would be proud of you. Dissidents? Commies? Subversives?
I'd hate to live in any society run by you guys where these "Truth Movement" rules applied. Dissidents get shoved away in some box? Is that your Brave New World of "Truth"?? Fek that matey. Hey, while we're at it let's try to ban that guy demonstrating these last 2 years on the pavement opposite the House of Commons eh??? Can't have any old Joe just speaking out in public, what???
The joke is that hologram merchants are tolerated. Beam weapons merchants are tolerated. Missile merchants are tolerated. Mini-nuke merchants are tolerated. Dissidents are not tolerated.
Give JREF a try. It's open house over there. Nobody will ban you if you just state your case all day long. But be prepared to bring evidence. Look forward to seeing you.
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| Ignatz wrote: | | Pikey wrote: | | Ignatz you are a "critic" who has no respect for truth, the purpose of this website, or those who dare raise fair and reasonable questions of the official version and demand the evidence. |
Read NIST for evidence. Read the testimony of FDNY. View the photos and reports where every bucketful of loose debris from GZ went down conveyors to be hand-picked for evidence.
If you have a different view - provide contrary evidence. I don't see any coming from you guys. Just unsubstantiated opinions. Jesus, even when you quote so-called "free-fall" times from NIST you refuse to acknowledge what it is the timings relate to.
Check Critics Corner yourself. I laid myself wide open down there, and got no takers. Nobody has checked the photo I provided (or any other(s) of their own choosing) for significant evidence of "cut" steel.
Why not???? Because there is no such evidence. No Truther will take it on, because to do so would undermine their own belief-driven delusion.
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You like a handful of others abuse the rules of this website forum and continually come out of critics corner.
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Joe McCarthy would be proud of you. Dissidents? Commies? Subversives?
I'd hate to live in any society run by you guys where these "Truth Movement" rules applied. Dissidents get shoved away in some box? Is that your Brave New World of "Truth"?? Fek that matey. Hey, while we're at it let's try to ban that guy demonstrating these last 2 years on the pavement opposite the House of Commons eh??? Can't have any old Joe just speaking out in public, what???
The joke is that hologram merchants are tolerated. Beam weapons merchants are tolerated. Missile merchants are tolerated. Mini-nuke merchants are tolerated. Dissidents are not tolerated.
Give JREF a try. It's open house over there. Nobody will ban you if you just state your case all day long. But be prepared to bring evidence. Look forward to seeing you.
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I agree with Ignatz in a way. Critics Corner shouldn't have been created. The jref's folk's agenda was so obvious they should just have been banned as spammers. Far more so than tele c for just being an obnoxious and irritating sarky git. And yes, anyone who's got the time for endless circular argument and entrapment , then the jref forum's just the place
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: Re: this thing's going to blow wide open soon! |
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| hampton wrote: | it's snowballing!
anyone have predictions on what will happen?
what preparations can we make? |
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| Quote: | | Read NIST for evidence |
Why is this jerk Ignatz tolerated here? He clearly is not going to stay in the sewer. The idea that the mouthpiece for the mass murderers (Nist) should be used as evidence for the truth of 9/11 could only come from the post of this creep.
Here is a little of what we are up against when dealing with the lies of Nist.
(emboldened text by me)
http://www.teamliberty.net/id273.html
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Muckraker report
"Change in Venue or Date will not Alter Decision"
July 3, 2006 – As a direct result of the government scientists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) producing and providing for public consumption, an unsustainable theory of how the World Trade Center North Tower and South Tower each collapsed at freefall speed on September 11, 2001, tens of millions of Americans, and millions more people abroad, now rightly question whether the U.S. government’s account of what happened on 9/11 is the truth. Confronted with the overwhelming amount of independent research conducted and compiled since 9/11 that clearly and fairly challenges the validity of the government’s “pancake theory” of collapse, the Muckraker Report decided to host a National 9/11 Debate with the hope that the U.S. government would take this opportunity to answer many of the unanswered questions pertaining to 9/11. The fact is that the gap between what the government has told the mainstream media parrots regarding September 11, 2001, and what independent researchers and real journalists have uncovered, is too large and obnoxious to be left unchecked.
Why the mainstream media news editors are unwilling or unable to wrap their minds around the fact that if a billiard ball were to be dropped from 1,362 feet (height of the South Tower) in a vacuum, meaning no air resistance to slow the ball’s dissent, ..... and easily validated by any mechanical engineer or physics professor, the billiard ball would require 9.22 seconds to hit the ground. How then did the towers collapse in 10 seconds and 11.4 seconds, and why has not one member of the mainstream media insisted on honest answers from the government in this regard?
The fact is that the government’s account of how the twin towers collapsed has already been proven false. The laws of gravity alone dictate that for the twin towers to have collapsed according to the NIST “pancake theory” required at least a 30 second collapse cycle. The North Tower collapsed 11.4 seconds. The South Tower collapsed in 10 seconds. The actual collapse time of each tower disproves the government’s theory. As much as the hysterical neo con mouthpieces want to label those of us not confused by the facts as conspiracy theorists, the scientific evidence remains that the twin towers could not have collapsed as the government claims.
Regardless of what you want to believe about the events of September 11, 2001, believing the government’s “pancake theory” is to believe a completely false statement. In the final scientific analysis – the “pancake theory” fails. As desperate as the mainstream media is to not allow Internet news sources to prove how the U.S. government played the editors at ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX, NBC, Associated Press, Reuters, New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, etc. like big time fools regarding 9/11 events, the scientific facts dictate that the time is fast approaching when the editors at these media outlets will have to realize, research, and reconcile the fact that the government has yet to produce a theory on the collapse sequence of the twin towers or the phantom collapse of World Trade Center Building Seven that can be scientifically-validated through the peer evaluation process.
The fact is that scientists outside the government’s control have been conducting peer evaluation of the NIST scientists and their “pancake theory” for years now, and the government theory has failed to pass the test. Its failure to pass the test means that the government has yet to provide a sustainable explanation of how the twin towers collapsed.
This is not unusual in the scientific community; the process of working hypothesis, research, presenting a theory, subjecting the theory to peer evaluation, and then if failing peer evaluation, returning to the research and even the hypothesis. What is different in this instance though is the stakes; and they couldn’t be higher because so much of what the U.S. government has done since 9/11 is contingent on the majority of the public believing that those twin towers collapsed as the result of the airplane impacts. With an estimated 42% of the American public now skeptical of the 9/11 Commission Report as well as the NIST “pancake theory”; the government knows it is losing the information war on 9/11, and has recently began to mount its predictable counter-offensive.
That could explain why the mainstream media is starting to invite professors that disagree with the government scientists onto its wide variety of canned news shows and into its newspaper pages – not to give these heroic Americans a fair, non-hostile venue to present their findings – but to smear their credibility and label them as conspiracy nuts! Who then, I ask you, is the conspiracy nut? Those that display contempt prior to investigation, those that blindly believe a government account that defies the laws of physics and gravity, or those that point out that the elapsed collapse times of the North Tower and South Tower completely eliminate the possibility that the government’s “pancake theory” has any merit whatsoever.
After three separate mailings of hard copy invitations to the NIST scientists, on June 8, 2006 the Muckraker Report received e-mail from NIST that said, “The project leaders of the NIST World Trade Center investigation team respectfully decline your invitations to participate in the National 9/11 Debate on September 16, 2006.” Not to be deterred, on June 20, 2006 the Muckraker Report e-mailed Michael E. Newman, NIST Director of Media Relations, and asked if there was a better date, time, and location for NIST to participate in the National 9/11 Debate.
On June 25, 2006, NIST Director of Media Relations, Michael E. Newman responded:
The members of the NIST WTC Investigation Team has [sic] respectfully declined your invitation to participate in the National 9/11 Debate. A change in venue or date will not alter that decision.
A change of venue or date will not alter that decision. Fascinating! What Newman is telling the world is that the public servants at NIST, the people paid by the U.S. taxpayers, will never, ever publicly debate their peers regarding the “pancake theory” of collapse of WTC-1, WTC-2, and WTC-7. Taxpayers should be outraged! The public needs to demand accountability. Apparently, the Gang of 13 at NIST does not believe they are accountable to the people. That needs to change, pronto! Newman has repeatedly told the Muckraker Report that NIST “stands solidly behind the collapse mechanisms for each tower and the sequences of events (from aircraft impact to collapse) as described in the report.” The truth is that NIST is hiding behind its unsustainable theory and dares not publicly debate the merits of its report.
... make no mistake about it – the NIST report on probable collapse sequence of the twin towers is a blind and baseless opinion, a complete waste of taxpayer dollars, and one of the most atrocious lies every told to the American people!
This is one lie that cannot be allowed to stand. It must be broken. The truth must prevail. Too much privacy and liberty, and too many lives have already been lost because of this lie. The stakes simply could not be any higher at this time. Lives are at risk – to include yours and mine. Never give up!
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... He clearly is not going to stay in the sewer.... |
I think "ghetto" is a better word. And you're correct, I'm not.
A small task for you Blackcat - out of the hundreds of photos of GZ fallen steel, find a load that show "cut" ends.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
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Ignatz,
How amusing that you refer to yourself as a subversive, a dissident.
A conformist would be far more apt.
That you think a forums rules can be applied to society as a whole is equally rib tickling, revealing quite how out of touch with reality you have become. You really ought to disguise the agenda more carefully old chap.
Your post above is designed to anger people, as usual. Twisting reality to put yourself on the side of Brain Haw and the truth movement on the side of a fascist police state is quite a disgusting little trick seen often by the jref clowns.
I wouldnt join the arrogant, pseudo intellectual morons at JREF if i was paid to. 'Please Mr Authority tell me what to think...'
Suckers.
The world has enough spineless little government repeaters like you so why do you worry? Why spend every waking hour spouting the governments lies in the faces of people who have seen right through them? is life really that empty?
Some of us dont have the time or the inclination to go round in circles endlessly. You obviously thrive on it. Anyone that chooses to can easily follow the stench of bs and find the jref cointel site.
This is a campaign forum you fool not a circular debating forum, your contributions not withstanding.
I agree with dh, ban the lot of em especially given this latest admission:
"And you're correct, I'm not." - begging to be banned, give him/her what he/she wants.
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| Quote: | | A small task for you Blackcat - out of the hundreds of photos of GZ fallen steel, find a load that show "cut" ends. |
I don't respond to "tasks" set by a jerk like you, and I do not let you set the agenda. You might as well ask me to prove the "beam weapon" or the "No planes theory" or any other junk thought up by shills like yourself to discredit the movement. I notice you ignore the gist of my post which is the IMPOSSIBILITY of a collapse at the speed the towers came down UNLESS they were brought down by controlled demolition. I will never play your sordid game - 9/11 was a BLATANT inside job and to give any credibility to the official fairy tale or debate it is demeaning to the seriousness of what the world is facing. Lickspittles like you have no place on these forums. |
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Christ, lock Ignatz and his ilk in Critics Corner already, this site is a f*ckin joke.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
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| scar wrote: | ...
Your post above is designed to anger people, as usual. Twisting reality to put yourself on the side of Brain Haw and the truth movement on the side of a fascist police state is quite a disgusting little trick seen often by the jref clowns..... |
It's designed to provoke the intellectually dishonest "mainstream" of this board into providing evidence to support their guesswork.
Should be a piece of cake. 50% of columns cut on 30% of the floors (say. And that seems a conservative figure to me). Go find the cuts. There are 100's of photos and films to choose from.
No 'conventional CD' Truther has ever done this, to my knowledge anyway. Why don't you be the first, scar?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
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| Ignatz wrote: |
It's designed to provoke the intellectually dishonest "mainstream" of this board into providing evidence to support their guesswork.
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.."intellectually dishonest"....?.......you disgusting creature.
You ignore every serious challange that posters on this site put up to you.
You then constantly demand evidence from them that you know they cannot provide.
NOTE: 1) We do not have to prove exactly how the WTC's were demolished.
2) You need to demonstrate that the free-fall collapses and total destruction of all the materials inside the towers, the synchronised severence of the steel beams and the pools of molten metal that stayed molten in the basements for 3 months could have been produced by some process other than by controlled demolition by explosives.
But you know this. You also know that you will never provide the reasonable explanations that we are demanding.
You are a shill, a messer...working to limit propagation of 9/11 truth and protect the criminals that carried out the crime...and, presumably, the criminals' dependents....are you such a one? You are certainly not here because of your devotion to truth. That's one thing that is for sure.
The moderators should lock you off this site. I wonder why they don't. |
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Ignatz-The moderators should lock you off this site. I wonder why they don't. |
Indeed,a needless small potato distraction when we should all be concentrating our efforts on what to do next. |
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The thing is though, if the "Magic Bullet Theory" for Kennedy's assasination was believed enough, even to this day, by the majority of people as the real reason he was killed, will we EVER reach a day where we hit enough people believing 9/11 was an inside job?
The Magic Bullet Theory is far more ridiculous and based in fiction than any 9/11 explanation the Government has offered, so if that is believed, I doubt 9/11 will ever be truely exposed in the mainstream. |
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| wickywoowoo wrote: | The thing is though, if the "Magic Bullet Theory" for Kennedy's assasination was believed enough, even to this day, by the majority of people as the real reason he was killed, will we EVER reach a day where we hit enough people believing 9/11 was an inside job?
The Magic Bullet Theory is far more ridiculous and based in fiction than any 9/11 explanation the Government has offered, so if that is believed, I doubt 9/11 will ever be truely exposed in the mainstream. |
That may well have been the start, but things have changed a lot since then. The consciousness, intuitive as well as informational, is swelling out, and the bag will blow. They are prepared for the consequences as we must be.
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Is it though?
I agree some SOME consciousness is growing, but I feel it is growing in a way that is not mainstream. "Those who know", so to speak, are learning more information on more subjects, but your regular person who loves I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here is still as likely to dismiss 9/11 Truth now as they were 5 years ago.
It's almost like 9/11 Truth and Conspiracy researches in general are beginning to create a new belief system and ideology rather than changing the existing paradigm. Bill Hicks and Terence McKenna both talked about the need for a new social structure to be established before change can occur, maybe this is what they mean.
I've long believed culture and society in general must be eradicated before evolution can continue, maybe that will occur through the emergence of a new way of life, rather than an alteration to the existing way. |
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| wickywoowoo wrote: | The thing is though, if the "Magic Bullet Theory" for Kennedy's assasination was believed enough, even to this day, by the majority of people as the real reason he was killed, will we EVER reach a day where we hit enough people believing 9/11 was an inside job?
The Magic Bullet Theory is far more ridiculous and based in fiction than any 9/11 explanation the Government has offered, so if that is believed, I doubt 9/11 will ever be truely exposed in the mainstream. |
Burn a few dvd's and give them out,you may be surprised by the reaction
or not 
Once they've seen the alternative(and that's the main problem) all is revealed as so much bullsh!t,the enlightenment follows naturally there after. |
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Maybe those cheeky illuminati planned it this way all along?
*legs it*
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| Reading the comments on the WebCameron site where we have been requested to get 9/11 in to the top five so it will be discussed, is very revealing. The majority accept WITHOUT QUESTION the official version and mostly say it is too outrageous to be true that it was an inside job. It is a position where I was at until about three years ago, never having been offered an alternative explanation, until I saw "Loose Change" and then went looking. It makes it all the more clear that people need to be shown the way to a different point of view. Spreading the word by giving out dvds and links to videos on the Internet is the most important action we can take imho. |
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| hampton wrote: | it's snowballing!
anyone have predictions on what will happen?
what preparations can we make? |
don't want to see out of touch here, i did'nt watch any news for a few days
but just wonder what has happened for you to say this? |
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gareth
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i don't think it is snowballing either. i work in a busy london pub and i'm always trying to wise up the customers but without any meaningful success. i don't actually believe i've ever met another 'truther'.
i am curious as to how the bbc 9/11 conspiracy documentary will turn out. not optimistic. unless it is 'countered' immediately after it shows i fear a lot of momentum in the movement will be wasted |
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Wokeman
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Location: Woking, Surrey, UK
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