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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:06 pm    Post subject: Write to your MP re the Terrorism Law - 9th November Vote Reply with quote

I had meant to do this, but was prompted by Noel's e-mail.

I faxed my letter, free, through http://www.writetothem.com/

Just enter your postcode and follow through.

For those that don't already do this, I suggest typing the letter in a Word Processor with a spell checker, then pasting it into the web form (only plain text is allowed, however - no bold or underline etc).

In case of use or if it saves time, I have pasted the letter I wrote below.

Andrew


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Dear ___,



I am writing regarding the latest Terrorism Bill which sits before the Commons and is to be read again on the 9th of November.



In summary, I am writing to ask you to vote against this bill. Whether terrorists are waiting to strike or whether they are not simply does not justify the detention of free people without charge for 3 months. Security services and Police can argue all they want but this is not the type of bill that should exist in a free society.



In any case, the reasoning behind the bill is based on false evidence. Even if the evidence were valid, this length of detention is still unwarranted and must be opposed.



It has now also been reported in The Scotsman that there is disagreement about who exactly proposed or pressured for the 90-day detention period. Was it the Police or was it MI5? Mr Blair and Mr Clarke cannot seem to agree. This is a very unfortunate situation indeed and not easily ignored. With a law as fundamental to our democratic freedoms as this, we all need to be very clear about what we are saying.



As you may remember, I have presented you with very significant evidence which shows the attacks in London and New York were not committed by Al Qaida terrorists. More evidence has since come to light and we are continuing our campaign to get this evidence to be examined by everyone.



Our UK 9-11 Truth online forum now has 176 members (and a number of off-line ones) and presentations and talks are being given in several places such as London, Bristol, Brighton and the West Country. Ian Henshall and Rowland Morgan’s “Book 9-11 Revealed” has also been published. Also on Oct 15th & 16th, Professor David Ray Griffin, a Theologian (he was a professor of philosophy of religion and theology, at the Claremont School of Theology in Claremont, California until 2004) gave 2 presentations in New York regarding 9-11 Truth. He said:



‘It is already possible to know, beyond a reasonable doubt, one very important thing: the destruction of the World Trade Center was an inside job, orchestrated by terrorists within our own government." He also said "The evidence for this conclusion (that 9/11 was an inside job) has thus far been largely ignored by the mainstream press, perhaps under the guise of obeying President Bush’s advice not to tolerate "outrageous conspiracy theories." We have seen, however, that it is the Bush administration’s conspiracy theory that is the outrageous one, because it is violently contradicted by numerous facts, including some basic laws of physics.’



Please consider the significance of this and add this to the statements I sent you earlier this year of Professor Morgan Reynolds of Texas A & M University.



We have also seen a wonderful new development – www.mujca.com - Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth. So now, people are going to have to take this issue much more seriously. I think 1 aspect of this must be to vote against this new bill – which completely fails to take into account evidence like that described above.



Thank you for reading. Please vote against the bill. The time to choose our future is here.





Yours Very Sincerely





Andrew Johnson

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the letter which I copied and slightly edited before hand delivering to my MPs constituency office. My MP is one of BLIARS babes,
Ms Geraldine Smith.

I asked the two elderly guys who were manning the office how Ms Smith had voted on the bill last week. The response was initially one of silence and then a response came "it will be on the internet "!

I suggested to the guys that it would be more helpfu if they answered what I thought was a fair and reasonable question. It was like trying to get blood out of a stone but eventually one of them admitted she had voted with the government and backed the bill!

I queried if this was the way the majority of Ms Smiths constituents would wish her to vote and made them aware of my own opinion and also referred to the official version of 911 being a lie.

One of the guys started to shout at me and I asked him to stop behaving so aggressively and look at the evidence wih an open mind. I produced the DRG book "The New Pearl Harbour" and he left the room. Maybe this book is the equivalent to a crucifix when faced with a vampire!!

When he left the room I asked his colleague if he could produce a picture or any evidence of flight 77 a Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon. His response was negative. He then proceeded to accuse those opposing the official version as being anti jewish. His explanation of this allegation was that those who challenge the official version claim that many Jews who should have been at work in the towers on 911 were advised not to report for work!!!!!!!!!

Politicains and the media and their agents................ 911 truth campaigning really highlights just how dysfunctional they have become.
Is it a case of errors of judgement/incompetence, carrying out orders from above without question and looking after their own self interests and/ or are all these people just SPINELESS or what? Maybe this site should have a "rogues gallery" i.e a list of those MPs and media editors who have been provided with our 911 info and who have acted with ignorance. if they replied their response could be posted. This would be a useful source of reference for 911 campaigners and visitors to the site

It would be useful for the 911 Truth campaign if someone could highlight the MPs (and their constituency) who voted against the Terrorism bill and for any 911 truth campaigners to arrange a consultation to get some feedback on what they believe is the 911 truth.

I am afraid that regarding the UK politicians and the media we just appear to be consistently hitting a BRICK wall.

IMO the politicians and media will do nothing until there is a critical mass at grassroots level............IMO we should be concentrating our limited resources and energies at the bottom of the pyramid by recruiting and setting up more truth groups who can disseminate all the info via the dvds, websites etc.

We cant afford to give up, IMO 911 is the key and its our last chance to stop the new world order prision society fully materialising. Every individual has a responsibility to contribute and make a difference.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: Response from Geraldine Smith MP dated 17-11-05 Reply with quote

Letter dated 17/11/ from MP Geraldine Smith sent from her constituency office on House of Commons letter headed paper with a constituency office footer and PP’d by D Romberg.

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“Thank you for your letter of 7/11/ regarding the Anti Terrorism legislation that came into parliament recently.

You may be aware that I voted for the Governments proposed Anti-Terror Laws last week. I felt that safeguards in the legislation would have ensured that the 90 day detention would not have been misused including the requirement for a judge to review the case of a suspect being held every week.

I believe that there is concern about the effect of such legislation on civil liberties but I feel that it is very important to do all that is possible to prevent future terrorist attacks”


It would be interesting to know if this response is similar to any of the responses received from other MP's to Andrew's letter.

Did anyone else write to their MP and get a response?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: Response to Geraldine Smith MP letter dated 17/11/05 Reply with quote

I have posted the following correspondence today in response to Ms Smiths letter dated 17/11/ (see previous article)
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22nd November, 2005
Geraldine Smith MP (The Labour Party)
Morecambe & Lunesdale
House of Commons
LONDON
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Re: Anti Terrorism Bill

Dear Geraldine,

Thank you for your letter dated 17/11.

I note that you ignored my request and voted with the Government for a 90 day detention period.
Based on your past track record of 100% loyalty to our puppet President Bliar and the dark forces
controlling and hiding behind him your action does not surprise me Another massive error of your judgement, for the people who pay your salary and who you are elected to represent in my opinion.

You are correct in identifying the public concern on the attack of civil liberties in the UK and thankfully a majority of MPs recognised this and reduced this to a more reasonable period of 28 days. Thankfully on this occasion you were in the minority Ms Smith, which in my opinion demonstrates that the public awakening to the truth of 911 is well under way.

Was this how the majority of your constituency members wished you to vote? Perhaps you could furnish me with the constituency consultation evidence, as we are supposed to exist in a democracy. If you produce the evidence then I accept that you are carrying out the responsibilities of your position to serve the people of Morecambe & Lunesdale but based on my own knowledge of local public opinion my allegation is that you have in the past and are continuing to fail to do this.

In the absence of any such evidence I do not believe that you are adopting the democratic principles of consulting your constituency, just as you failed to do when you backed sending in our troops on the illegal war in Iraq, all based on deception and lies (weapons of mass destruction).

It is an interesting fact to note that the Lancaster Conservative MP Ben Wallace voted against the 90 day anti Terrorism Bill and that the previous Lancaster Labour MP Hilton Dawson, who retired early from politics prior to this years general election voted against the government in sending our troops to war in Iraq.

I totally agree that these acts of terrorism should end but in order to achieve this the key question Ms Smith is who is responsible for planning these acts of terrorism? The truth of 911 is the key to answering this critical question. I believe that once the truthful answer to this question is established the acts of terrorism will end and that peace and truth will prevail.

Last year twenty-one Chinese cockle pickers drowned in Morecambe Bay (part of your constituency) as a result of capital exploitation and a total disregard for health and safety, which you had been alerted to by members of your constituency well before the event. Despite the warnings you achieved nothing to prevent the dangerous practices continuing and the inevitable happened. Are you going to do the same again with all the information that the UK 911 Truth campaign has supplied to you about 911?
An American Science professor has just released an independent scientific report on the collapse of the three high-rise buildings in New York (WTC 1 & 2 The North & South towers and WTC7). His conclusion, which substantiates what I believe to be the truth, is that these building structures were brought down by planted explosives.

I hope that there is an improvement in your future judgment of the information that you are provided with and that you are able to act in the interests of the local population who you are supposed to serve

Finally I wish to put on record that when I hand delivered my previous correspondence dated 7/11/ at your Morecambe office I was shouted at and aggressively spoken to by a male member of your volunteer staff who retreated to his office when I asked him, politely, to stop shouting at me.

This repeats the experience I had with you in 8/7 this year when you telephoned me at home in response to the 911 truth campaign correspondence dated 12/6/05 and ended up shouting at me for suggesting that the official version of 911 was a lie and that 911 and the London bombings were carried out by the same dark forces. This culture of aggression and arrogance has become a feature of the Labour government and has no place in a supposedly civilized society.

If the tactic to adopt the practice of verbally attacking people is meant to discourage people from raising questions of public accountability, it is doomed to failure. Perhaps you and your colleagues should note those historic words of wisdom provided by Mahatma Gandhi: - First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!

Thank you for reading this letter and as the record will verify in due course you cannot plead ignorance to the fact that you have been given the compelling evidence to demonstrate that the official version of 911 is a lie. I trust that the government will be able to stop any future terrorist attacks in the UK without us losing further civil liberties.

Yours sincerely


All we can do with these spineless MPs who continue to ignore the compelling evidence is to publicly name and shame them on this website by providing the evidence.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: relying too heavily on spell checkers Reply with quote

Just a caution about relying too heavily on spell checkers. Try running this badly-written little paragraph about a strike meeting through a spell checker and see if it picks up any errors. My spell checker says it contains no errors.

Well! well! Smile

*The strike errs wood meat at there usual sight, witch was ware there onion stew hard add rest them, "Work errs off the world ewe knight," he said, "Ewe have nothing to loose butt yore jeans." *

The lesson is that, though spell checkers are a useful aid, they are blind to homophones (words which share the same sound but have different spellings). Homophones commonly cause spelling confusion.

Spell checkers do not aid punctuation either as is demonstrated by Andrew's final:

"Yours Very Sincerely"

Normal practice in modern British English is:

"Yours very sincerely"

Though I do see Andrew's version quite frequently, particularly on letters from my local council. Who is to say what is right though? Personally I believe there is no basis for saying what is right or wrong in English spelling, punctuation, pronunciation or grammar. All we can say is that this group of people do this, while that group of people do that. I can say that people who have recently left school and who type letters for the London Borough of Lambeth Council write:

"Yours Sincerely"

Prescriptive grammarians would tut-tut at that. All a descriptive grammarian, such as myself, would say is:

"Yours Sincerely" has lower status than "Yours sincerely" and is considered by many to be wrong.

The boring fact is that, despite the fact that English is the most difficult language in the world to spell as the dictionaries and the publishing houses specify, if we want to impress, we do have to become good spellers.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Noel,

Thanks for that. I cant really see what positive benefit your article will achieve for the 911 Truth campaign though.......will it encourage people to write correspondence for the 911 Truth campaign?

Composing correspondence is a very time consuming task and we all have a limited amount of time, especially those who are in the matrix and working, fighting to keep out of debt! Some people have the luxury of composing their 911 stuff at work!

Yep I agree spelling errors should be minimised however I believe what is important is the act of doing and getting the message through. The success of the 911 truth campaign is iMO dependent on a culture of working together and supporting, helping and encouraging each other. Does this contribution achieve this Noel?

Who is to say what is right and wrong? just goes to show the mind conditioning and negativity of the education system Noel.

Your comment about the grammatical correction of how to finish off with yours sincerely is interesting.

I have recently received another tax demand, this time a speeding fine for being recorded by a speed camera for dong 36mph in a 30mph zone.
The letter is adddressed to me in block capital letters. Is that correct Noel?

Lets stick and focus and focus on what is important..........911 truth campaigning........lets not allow our personal egos to destroy that, an outcome the ptb would be delighted to see happen.

Andrew Johnson sets us a superb example to follow IMO.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi folks,

Thanks to Pikey for words of support. The capital S of "Sincerely" whether wrong, right, proper or improper is meant to add to capital V in "Very" to emphasise the strength of feeling I have.

One thing I do try to avoid as much as possible (and it is exceptionally hard to do so when dealing with this material) is to avoid the use of negative words and personal criticisms as far as possible. Just stay focused on the facts and evidence and remember, that if the truth really is on our side (which it is), it speaks for itself, and we don't need to bash it in. It is painful enough even when tapped with a balsa-wood hammer.

We have to try and forgive the past mistakes of all the people who are supposed to stand up for us - and this stretches far beyond our manipulated politicians.

One thought occurred to me the other week (dangerous, I know...). But if we truly live in a democracy where our MP's represent OUR opinions, then how can the govt. possibly conceive of any idea which attempts to swing the vote (all this 3-line whip or whatever that's all about). What a travesty that is. The gov't should state the bill in full then keep it's mouth shut and let MP's decide how to vote. But we all know this simply doesn't work, as so few constituents/people actually write and express their view anyway.

Cheers

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