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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Steve Jones accepts Jim Fetzer's Radio Appearance Invitation Reply with quote

Prof Steve Jones is currently scheduled to appear on Prof Jim Fetzer's GCN radio broadcast "The Dynamic Duo" on Weds 17th Jan 3-5 PM/CT which I think is 9pm - 11pm our time.

"Tune in" here:

http://www.gcnlive.com/listenlive.htm

Network 2

This has seemingly been arranged at short notice, therefore may be subject to change.

I will try to make an archive of the show available and post a link here.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

real scholars... should learn to respect each others difference of opinion, especially ones who worked together on something.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will be interesting and at the very least Fetzer will give us all a laugh! I wonder if Woods will make a surprise appearance, you know parachute in on the top of a grand piano? Rolling Eyes

Anyway I hope somebody records it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm looking forward to this almost as much as I was to the start of the new series of 24! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might miss the first five mins as I'm cooking a piazza. Very Happy

I hope somebody is going to record it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I'm so excited... we're on the break and I'm waiting for Steve to ignite the thermite reaction!! Fetzer mentioned the piano as I expected although the speed from the top of the towers has strangely gone from 30secs to 27secs to 13 secs!!

God I wish I didn't have to put up with these crappy ads.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a set-up or what? So why can't Steve get through on the telephone? He may have got pissed off with Fetzer talking over him. The other possibility is that they have locked him out so Fetzer can talk sh*t and try and rubbish Steve's paper! As said set-up and Fetzer is such a shill and an idiot.

So Fetzer is yapping on and on talking complete sh*t. If there was any doubt that he is a shill it has now gone.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Jones just say "it's cold out here"? What does that mean?

EDIT: So was Jones forced to drive to a phone box? Perhaps he's outside on his mobile although I wonder why? What's wrong with his land-line?

As I said above I now have no doubt that Fetzer is a shill and probably always has been.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one who noticed extreme tension in Jones' voice when Jim Fetzer asked him about directed energy weapons?

Kind of reminds me of the nervousness of Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Meyers when they’re questioned about microwaves and directed energy weapons:

scroll to the 9 minute mark:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8361811662480560988



Jones final comments in Fetzer's show makes it clear that he's protecting the real 9/11 criminals!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but all I could hear 99% was the voice of “Fetzer the shill”. For people who don't get it let me spell it out:
1.Divide and conquer.
2.Push dis-info so as to confuse people and keep them guessing.

Bit like what's going on at this site eh?

So here's old "Fetzer the shill" talking about grand pianos (note the times he quotes):


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

regarding John Albanese new movie:

Albanese is total moron and can't get it thought his skull (and Bones?) that TV-Fakery is already proven fact, and that airplanes don't meld into steel/concrete buildings.


Thers's no crushing, no bending, no twisting. Tail not snapping off. Fuel filled wings and engines not exploding on impact. Wing tips swept back 35 degrees sawing through structural steel. The building self-healing itself before the explosion.

Airplanes are extremely delicate. Watch these videos of real crashes:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3998892467657667670
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=796070773181554229
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7809823452018518759

Now watch videos on these pages:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/insane/fairbanks.close.swf
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane/index.htm


Also check here for bird strikes. A bird can tear into an airplane but not structural steel?
http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html#bird_strikes


As I said, Albanese is a moron and possibly a genuine disinfo agent.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick Brown wrote:
This will be interesting and at the very least Fetzer will give us all a laugh! I wonder if Woods will make a surprise appearance, you know parachute in on the top of a grand piano? Rolling Eyes

Anyway I hope somebody records it.


That was funny!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here it is. Listen, and weep. It's pretty sad. Sad

http://media.putfile.com/Jones-interviewed-by-Fetzer-1-17-06

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fetzer was as rude as any msm "interviewer" I have heard. He used the same tactics of asking a question then stopping any reply by talking over the top or interrupting Jones incessantly. How can anyone believe he is genuine after that? He deserves no respect whatsoever!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did a good job on the Greek telecast, but that interview with Jones was absolutely pathetic, and I think spells the beginning of the end of Fetzer's role as a "leader" in the 9/11 truth movement. That interview is going to get spread around and soon everyone's going to get a chance to listen to it. He dug a hole and then just kept on digging. It was sad.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ, that's difficult to listen to. Fetzer is like some babbling village idiot, I can see where you beamers get your foul attitudes from.

He did play some good songs though... Help!

"Help me if you can I'm feeling down,
and I do appreciate your coming round,
Help me get my feet back on the ground,
Oh won't you please, please help me?"

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those that want to listen and make their own minds up (I haven't had chance to listen to all of it yet!) Here's a copy:

http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/911/Jim%20Fetzer%20-%20Steve%20J ones%20-%20Dynamic%20Duo%20-%2017%20Jan%202007.mp3

It was bound to be something of a shouting match - just look at the mix of posts in this thread. The tactics have worked - all over again - and on a group of people who should know better by now.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the download and will edit out the ads at some point in the future and upload it to my esnips.com account. I'm running just on a laptop at the mo as both my PC's are being modded new: graphics cards, ram, processors + silent fans, case coolers and card readers etc. I might even go for an SATA2 Raid setup on my main PC as I use it to do my music. Just need to rob a bank now to pay for it all!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even before fetzer started shining energy beams out his arse I was still loath to link vids of him to anyone; all that maniacal shouting and mouth foaming stuff doesn't exactly speak "science" does it.

Has anyone seen Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice (the Jones/Ryan & Co offshoot)? Looks promising.

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Also the idea of a “Philosopher of Science” sounds rather stupid. I once said to an Oxford University professor that I figured religion was a synthesis of science and philosophy and he said “you're probably right”. This is not to say that you can philosophise about physical facts but rather that the things that science can't explain can be explained by philosophy. Arnold Toynbee another Oxford University professor suggested that the growth of civilization was intrinsically related to religion.

So when Fetzer tries to argue against the scientific facts that Jones uses to substantiate his hypothesis he just starts to sound like an idiot.

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It was bound to be something of a shouting match

Because Fetzer was hell bent on shouting??? Jones was a voice of reason and calm and it was a shouting match only in the sense that Fetzer did all the shouting. It took till the very end for Jones, in exasperation, to raise his voice, and then only to plead for the chance to be heard.
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It was bound to be something of a shouting match

Because Fetzer was hell bent on shouting??? Jones was a voice of reason and calm and it was a shouting match only in the sense that Fetzer did all the shouting. It took till the very end for Jones, in exasperation, to raise his voice, and then only to plead for the chance to be heard.


Quite, and at that point Fetzer started actually turning Jones' feed down so he could shill on about general beam chicanery over the top of Jones explaining his points and answering Fetzers questions. Do I have some last century view that its traditional for a show host to talk LESS than the guest speaker?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
Has anyone seen Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice (the Jones/Ryan & Co offshoot)? Looks promising.


Here http://schol.digitalstyledesigns.com/ Very Happy

Yeah somehow I think it'll see more traffic than Fetzers shill-a-thon...

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CB_Brooklyn wrote:
regarding John Albanese new movie:

Albanese is total moron and can't get it thought his skull (and Bones?) that TV-Fakery is already proven fact, and that airplanes don't meld into steel/concrete buildings.


Thers's no crushing, no bending, no twisting. Tail not snapping off. Fuel filled wings and engines not exploding on impact. Wing tips swept back 35 degrees sawing through structural steel. The building self-healing itself before the explosion.

Airplanes are extremely delicate. Watch these videos of real crashes:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3998892467657667670
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=796070773181554229
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7809823452018518759

Now watch videos on these pages:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/insane/fairbanks.close.swf
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane/index.htm


Also check here for bird strikes. A bird can tear into an airplane but not structural steel?
http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html#bird_strikes


As I said, Albanese is a moron and possibly a genuine disinfo agent.


Your post makes no sense at all and as usual you ignore the facts.

The second video clip of a plane crashing looks just like the crashes on 9/11. A huge, glossy, fireball is seen just like the ones witnessed at the twin towers.

The bird strikes prove how the muscle, flesh and bone of a small animal can penetrate aluminium or put it another way, how something you wouldn't expect to see breaking something else doing just that and obviously quite easily. You must have seen images of a someone breaking bricks and wooden boards with their hands?

But oh no, you raise the issue that a bird can impact aluminium (although you fail to mention what has happened to the bird which is convenient, i.e the bird is in pieces inside the aircraft - any similarities?) but you, like all the other shills, refuse to allow for a massive aluminium aircraft travelling with huge momentum impacting a steel lattice wall which was akin to a flyscreen mesh when compared in scale. How many times do I have to say this, the outer wall of the twin towers was constructed using hollow steel tubes being 14" x 14" held together with rivets. Do you know what 14" looks like? Obviously not. Now compare the 14" thickness of wall with the 2113" length of the plane (that's 150 times bigger by the way). This is why your analysis is flawed. And before you go on about the floors, these were constructed of lightweight steel trusses not even 2 foot deep. Do you know what a truss is? These supported a thin corrugated metal deck (a few mm thick) and a 4" concrete slab for people to walk on. In other words, each floor was mostly a lattice work of steel tubes, only the 4" slab being solid. I suggest you look at how big 4" is on a ruler. Now the trusses and slab would have caused resistance and much damage to each aircraft but overall they were very lightweight and not designed to take impact forces side on (just like the outer steel work).



How many times are you, AJ, TTWSU3 and all the other 9/11 distractors going to ignore these facts?

So what did cause the hole below? Whatever it was, the shape it created suggests it had a large central body and thin bits sticking out to the side. Mmmm, I wonder what that could have been!



As far as I am concerned, you are all hampering the efforts of the 9/11 movement. Perhaps should go to Heathrow or any other major airport and have a look at the size of a few Boeings. You could just learn something instead wallowing in the land of fiction. Then again, this would damage your role as a bunch of shills.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got more patience than I can muster up, James.
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Very amusing. Who's the woman in the first clip?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate to have to say this, but James is brainwashed.


James C wrote:

Your post makes no sense at all and as usual you ignore the facts.

The second video clip of a plane crashing looks just like the crashes on 9/11. A huge, glossy, fireball is seen just like the ones witnessed at the twin towers.


If you're gonna say that this looks like this then you've got some kind of serious thinking disorder. Since you seem to not be able to think properly I'll explain it step by step, so you should have little trouble (although I do recommend you get an eye exam):

The REAL plane crashed against the ground.

The 9/11 CGI glided through the building creating a cartoon cutout of itself.



The REAL plane exploded on impact.

The 9/11 CGI did not explode until after it was completely inside the building.



The REAL plane was visible on the ground after the crash.

The 9/11 CGI completely disappeared inside the building.

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The bird strikes prove how the muscle, flesh and bone of a small animal can penetrate aluminium or put it another way, how something you wouldn't expect to see breaking something else doing just that and obviously quite easily. You must have seen images of a someone breaking bricks and wooden boards with their hands?


Sounds like you're saying it would only happen if you wouldn't expect to see it. That's faulty logic and makes no sense.

The bird hit the wing. The bird got killed and the wing got damaged. Possible.

Someone breaks a board. The person is not harmed but the board is. Possible because person's hand has much smaller surface area.

An aluminum plane slicing through structural steel. Plane is destroyed and steel is destroyed. NOT Possible as it violates Conservation of Energy.




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But oh no, you raise the issue that a bird can impact aluminium (although you fail to mention what has happened to the bird which is convenient, i.e the bird is in pieces inside the aircraft - any similarities?) but you, like all the other shills, refuse to allow for a massive aluminium aircraft travelling with huge momentum impacting a steel lattice wall which was akin to a flyscreen mesh when compared in scale. How many times do I have to say this, the outer wall of the twin towers was constructed using hollow steel tubes being 14" x 14" held together with rivets. Do you know what 14" looks like? Obviously not. Now compare the 14" thickness of wall with the 2113" length of the plane (that's 150 times bigger by the way). This is why your analysis is flawed. And before you go on about the floors, these were constructed of lightweight steel trusses not even 2 foot deep. Do you know what a truss is? These supported a thin corrugated metal deck (a few mm thick) and a 4" concrete slab for people to walk on. In other words, each floor was mostly a lattice work of steel tubes, only the 4" slab being solid. I suggest you look at how big 4" is on a ruler. Now the trusses and slab would have caused resistance and much damage to each aircraft but overall they were very lightweight and not designed to take impact forces side on (just like the outer steel work).



Now you really sound like a nut. You don't seem to understand that there is no sign of a plane in the building after the "crash". It completely disappeared.

Aside from that, your version violates Newton's Laws of Motion. An aluminum airplane will not react that way with steel and concrete.



James C wrote:

How many times are you, AJ, TTWSU3 and all the other 9/11 distractors going to ignore these facts?

So what did cause the hole below? Whatever it was, the shape it created suggests it had a large central body and thin bits sticking out to the side. Mmmm, I wonder what that could have been!


Are you an idiot? Obviously explosives made that hole after the CGI completely disappeared inside the building. Did I really need to type that out? My God.



James C wrote:

As far as I am concerned, you are all hampering the efforts of the 9/11 movement. Perhaps should go to Heathrow or any other major airport and have a look at the size of a few Boeings. You could just learn something instead wallowing in the land of fiction. Then again, this would damage your role as a bunch of shills.



AFA I'm concerned, you are too afraid to see the reality of the CGI plane on 9/11. May I ask... what expertise do you have to counter the following people?

Joseph Keith - retired Aerospace Engineer

Judy Wood - former Professor of Mechanical Engineering. BS in Civil (Structural) Engineering, MS in Engineering Mechanics, PhD in Materials Engineering Science

Rick Rajter - graduate (PhD) student at MIT in Materials Science and Engineering

Jeffrey King - former MIT Electrical Engineer



The four educated people above have written papers on how the 9/11 "plane" defies physics. And if you read their papers, you won't find ramblings like in your post.
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IronSnot wrote:
You've got more patience than I can muster up, James.



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