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kbo234
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I found this film absolutely and utterly amazing. You might think this is not connected to 9/11 but it could be very connected in all sorts of ways. Watch right to the end. What d'ya think?
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4807962636315529202 |
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If I am right, this is a UFO documentary that has nothing to do with 9/11 and some sections have been debunked as frauds.
Interesting discussion but it may not last too long on this forum as it isn't really "on topic" so to speak. |
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Well if I remember arightly the later part of the film details claims of a person privy to high level discussion of a plot back in the 70's to manipulate the Christian and Islamic worlds into conflict at the turn of the millenium, using terrorism as a stepping stone towards unleashing a manufactured threat of alien invasion as a pretext for establishing total global control post 2012?
I'll move this into "controversies" for now and give kbo234 more time to build his case for the relevance of the thread
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| John White wrote: | | ......I'll move this into "controversies" for now and give kbo234 more time to build his case for the relevance of the thread |
This film is my first look at anything to do with UFO's/aliens etc. I was amazed that (seemingly) senior ex-military personnel should claim that there exists fairly hard evidence (radar records, photographic and more) for alien visitations.
The stuff towards the end gets into Icke territory. I do not yet believe any of this stuff. I want to see what these people call 'evidence' for myself....but it is very interesting.
The stuff towards the end about the media and all established authority operating an information blackout on this material is absolutely one with everything we are alleging on this site.
Everything IS connected, therefore I would assert that this kind of material must be relevant to truth-seekers, if only so that posters might place before us the evidence that debunks the whole phenomenon as invented nonsense. I am obviously not aware of the information that Wickywoo refers to in his post but would like to see it.
The idea that everything is connected is important and it is true. We need to understand to see the nature of these connections though. Awareness of a lie becomes integrated into a holistic world-view once we understand the reason for the lie.
I once had a powerful (non-drug induced) spiritual experience. The characteristics of this were predominantly insight, acceptance, absence of fear, a kind of ecstacy, an overwhelming sense of the connectedness of all things and a will to love.
I am inclined to see everything in life as a struggle between the spirit that came to me during this experience and the spirit of selfishness and materialism that seeks power through fear. We call this spirit of self-seeking and denial Satan. If this view of the world is a correct one, then one of Satan's (who IS the spirit behind those who dominate this world) greatest achievements is managing to convince so many of we modern sophisticates that there is no God.
I found the parts of the film that showed people trying to address the spirituality of 'the aliens' very interesting in itself. If they exist they, too, are subject to God. Their interest in our planet must, almost certainly, be benign. They could easily destroy us if they wished.
Jim Marrs, who I have always found it difficult not to consider a lunatic (with his 'reverse speech' research), was interesting when he speculated that these creatures were most probably 'very concerned' about our current direction, the nuclear threat etc. and might well be seriously considering actively intervening on our little planet to protect us from our own madness.
The big point is....like 9/11....that we must demand that whatever information exists must be put before us. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| kbo234 wrote: | | The big point is....like 9/11....that we must demand that whatever information exists must be put before us. |
I've always maintained that 9/11, the war on terror, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran etc etc is about oil and gas in a period of major decline. This is very important information but amazingly many people including many moderators dismiss it. It would seem that alien invasion or plain oligarchical conspiracy is much more likely despite the evidence to the contrary. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| James C wrote: | | kbo234 wrote: | | The big point is....like 9/11....that we must demand that whatever information exists must be put before us. |
I've always maintained that 9/11, the war on terror, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran etc etc is about oil and gas in a period of major decline. This is very important information but amazingly many people including many moderators dismiss it. It would seem that alien invasion or plain oligarchical conspiracy is much more likely despite the evidence to the contrary. |
Amazingly Moderators are just people too, and "our" opinions are no more worthy of undiscriminating agreement than anyone elses. Its just a little quirk of human nature that the views of mods tend to "carry more weight" on internet forums: dont be fooled anyone! Judge eveyone's posting on its own merits
In case you didnt know JamesC, I'm down with Peak oil personally, I've deliberated the possibilities and come to the conclusion that even the possibility that it may be true is more than enough to make it a significant factor in the plans of the PTB: I'm certainly not going to believe Oil is self-replenishing without seriously conclusive evidence, so ergo its a finite resource and we use a heck of a lot of it. Iranian production is reported as dropping significantly btw, though I suspect you know
| kbo234 wrote: | | I want to see what these people call 'evidence' for myself....but it is very interesting. |
Quite right too. There's always valuable insight to be gleaned from the interesting: and the disclosure project does represent the presentation of the hardest evidence yet of extraterrestial visitations.Its a lot of work to debunk, for certain. I used to be active on the UK UFO scene in the early 90's before moving on to other things, and I was impressed by how far the UFO movement had come in so little time. And of course, just 3 months after the call for disclosure came 9/11... Coincidence? Of course always possible, but I admit I do wonder
| kbo234 wrote: | I once had a powerful (non-drug induced) spiritual experience. The characteristics of this were predominantly insight, acceptance, absence of fear, a kind of ecstacy, an overwhelming sense of the connectedness of all things and a will to love.
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Your in good company mate 
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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kbo234 wrote:
| Quote: | | I once had a powerful (non-drug induced) spiritual experience. The characteristics of this were predominantly insight, acceptance, absence of fear, a kind of ecstacy, an overwhelming sense of the connectedness of all things and a will to love. |
Believe it or not you can experience this whenever you like, if you learn to meditate. |
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| ishaar wrote: | kbo234 wrote:
| Quote: | | I once had a powerful (non-drug induced) spiritual experience. The characteristics of this were predominantly insight, acceptance, absence of fear, a kind of ecstacy, an overwhelming sense of the connectedness of all things and a will to love. |
Believe it or not you can experience this whenever you like, if you learn to meditate. |
Or indeed whenever you like, if you learn to hold your LSD 
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