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StopThe9/11CoverUp Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: The Guardian Letters Page - The Truth about 9/11 Conspiracy |
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Hi guys, I read this letter in the Guardian an thought i'd post it here because it made me feel sad that someone could be so blind:
Letter from Kevin Parker - Gretna, Dumfries
I have spent much time researching the dreadful terrorist actions carried out on September 11 2001. I equally spend a great deal of my time exposing the deceptions in the movie Loose Change and of the movement that calls itself collectively "the truth movement". This entire movement is founded on falsities, misquotes and appalling disrespect for the victims of that awful day.
Your portrayal of Dylan Avery's film as a rags to riches story completely misrepresents thsi movement. The truth movement on the face of it offers a reasonable alternative view of the events, but when you look more closely a deeply disturbing picture arises - one of fanaticism, rewriting history and complete disregard of the terrible consequences 9/11 has had for the entire world. Like a religious cult, this movement pushes its views continually on, in particular, a younger audience. I am not for censorship, nor am I against opposing views, but there needs to be a balance struck between freedom of speech and allowing individuals like the makers of loose change to spread this totally incorrect version of a world changing event.
This is a shocking letter, I am confident someone here knows this person. If you do please give me his e-mail and website because he cannot call loose change a TOTALLY incorrect film. if he really means that then WTC7 did not collapse after all, nor does he believe the eyewitness's talking LIVE to news channels about explosives is correct either.
Maybe its time that Loose change was edited to remove some of the more "out there" theories. Just sticking with the main points of our argument.
If not then wen everyone gets excited about loose change being on TV, it might be detrimental to the movement.
Thoughts anyone?
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: Balance in reporting... |
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nowadays is having MANY VOICES saying the SAME THING.
Ie 9/11 wasn't an INSIDE JOB but an Al Qaeda Conspiracy.
Having such letters is second nature to papers like the Guardian.
After all they have been ardent supporters of all of Bliars wars.
And they are when it comes to psyops propaganda.
If it took them FIVE YEARS to publish letters critical of 9/11 think how long it will take them to publish real letters critical of the Iraq war?
All that is published is usually bland middle of the road nonsense. |
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truthseeker john Validated Poster
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: The Guardian Letters Page - The Truth about 9/11 Conspir |
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StopThe9/11CoverUp wrote: | Hi guys, I read this letter in the Guardian an thought i'd post it here because it made me feel sad that someone could be so blind:
Letter from Kevin Parker - Gretna, Dumfries
I have spent much time researching the dreadful terrorist actions carried out on September 11 2001. I equally spend a great deal of my time exposing the deceptions in the movie Loose Change and of the movement that calls itself collectively "the truth movement". This entire movement is founded on falsities, misquotes and appalling disrespect for the victims of that awful day.
Your portrayal of Dylan Avery's film as a rags to riches story completely misrepresents thsi movement. The truth movement on the face of it offers a reasonable alternative view of the events, but when you look more closely a deeply disturbing picture arises - one of fanaticism, rewriting history and complete disregard of the terrible consequences 9/11 has had for the entire world. Like a religious cult, this movement pushes its views continually on, in particular, a younger audience. I am not for censorship, nor am I against opposing views, but there needs to be a balance struck between freedom of speech and allowing individuals like the makers of loose change to spread this totally incorrect version of a world changing event.
This is a shocking letter, I am confident someone here knows this person. If you do please give me his e-mail and website because he cannot call loose change a TOTALLY incorrect film. if he really means that then WTC7 did not collapse after all, nor does he believe the eyewitness's talking LIVE to news channels about explosives is correct either.
Maybe its time that Loose change was edited to remove some of the more "out there" theories. Just sticking with the main points of our argument.
If not then wen everyone gets excited about loose change being on TV, it might be detrimental to the movement.
Thoughts anyone?
Ade. |
Thought:
I do wish you would put the codes in or at least use quotation marks when you quote someoneā¦ you had me going for a minute there.
Suggestions:
Write to the Guardian and make a comment on http://sanityforsale.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/the-guardian-the-truth-a bout-september-11th-conspiracy-theories/ (or whatever page is more appropriate, if there is one) and keep it to a few simple yet indisputable and obvious facts that prove without a shadow of doubt, that the official story is wrong.
We could try to contact Dylan or one of the other guys to also make comment; which is what I intend to do if I can find their address.
John |
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blackcat Validated Poster
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | appalling disrespect for the victims of that awful day. |
As soon as someone uses that horseshit as a reason to try to quell dissent you know them to be liars. It is never disrespectful to try to bring guilty people to account and there is such a blatant cover-up taking place regarding 9/11 that anyone using that feeble reasoning has to be a part of it. |
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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What days edition was this in? I can't find it online in today's, is this definatley in the Guardian? I'm going to send a letter if someone can confirm the date of the letter and a link to it. _________________
Peace and Truth |
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marky 54 Mega Poster
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: |
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someone in the above article uses the logic that if bush and rumsfeld had anything to do with it it would of failed.
what an idiot.
deeerrr ... it did FAIL! why the hell do they think we are here. it failed and they are to dumb to see it! if it went according to plan there would be no truth movement. |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Entrenched, state of the art denial supported by the "emotional" howitzer of despair.
Kevin Parker implies:
Anyone who questions the official version of the events of 9/11 disrespects the victims of the 9/11 crime.
Ergo:
Anyone accepting the official version of events of 9/11 is respectful of the victims of the 9/11 crime.
OK. For the sake of this argument I will accept your premise Mr Kevin Parker.
Do you think it would be disrespectful for anyone to question and investigate the destruction of WTC Building 7 ?
I cannot see how you could possibly object to anyone choosing to question how and why a 47 storey skyscraper collapsed to the ground without suffering the impact of an aircraft.
If they did choose to investigate WTC7 they wouldn't be upsetting any victims relatives, because nobody died as a result of that building's disappearance.*
The WTC7 sceptics wouldn't even be questioning the veracity of anyone in the US administration or their scientific investigative agencies, because nobody has provided an official report on the disappearance of WTC7 yet.
They wouldn't even be questioning the 9/11 Commission, because they didn't mention WTC7 at all in their 585 pages of report.
1970 days later and still nobody "officially" knows why WTC7 fell to the ground.
Would you mind, very much, if we investigated that Mr Parker ?
* with the exception of those that swallowed and inhaled some of WTC7 that is. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan.
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I've written quite a simple letter outlining:
1) the absence of any example from Parker to back up his accusations, and said accusations emotionally charged nature indicates a lack of a genuine rational argument
2) a very breif exposition of WTC7
3) a call for people to research the issue for themselves and make their own mind up.
Will email it tonight (it's on my home pc) _________________
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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OK question- does anyone know the email address of the Guardian's letters page- can't find it anywhere? _________________
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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letters@guardian.co.uk _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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Linda Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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<letters@guardian.co.uk>, |
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Sorry forgot to say thanks, I did send it yesterday. _________________
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StopThe9/11CoverUp Minor Poster
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: My email to the guardian. |
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Enjoyed all the responses to the main post, annoying is an understatement regarding his letter.
Anyways, heres the e-mail i sent to the guardian on the 1st Feb:
In response to Kevin Parker's letter on the 31/1/07, where he states that the independent documentary Loose Change is giving a totally incorrect version of the events of 9/11. Is he then saying that the collapse of World Trade Centre 7 at around 5.30pm that day did not happen? Is he also saying that eyewitnesses who survived and spoke to reporters Live on television about the explosion on the 7th floor, police radio transmissions about explosions on the 10th, 24th floors are incorrect and false? And finally regarding his comment about the 9/11 truth movement "rewriting history" is he not aware that the only people who can rewrite history are the ones who win propaganda wars? The only rewriting of history that has taken place is in fact that 9/11 was carried out by 19 Arabs with boxcutter knives.
Adrian Field
Redditch, Worcestershire.
Doubt it would make it in of course but we can but try!
Ade. |
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