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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Patrick Brown should be banned Reply with quote

To me it is clear as day that PB does not have the interests of the truth movement at heart.

Moderators do your job and get rid.

Is anyone brave enough to agree with me.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if PB deserves to be band for his behaviour thought criminal certainly does. offensive words directed at people and constant rude comments with anyone who disagrees with him. thats if people are not afraid to be unbiased
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a PM I received from Ian Neal entitled “Constant Trolling”:

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Final warning Patrick

Lay off the constant * stirring and accusations of shill or be banned


I didn't even get a first warning! Everybody knows that I've been giving Andrew a pretty tough time with regards to Beam Weapons and NPT. Andrew has clarified that he believes that “no big Boeings” hit the twin towers but will not give a yes or no answer to whether aircraft impacted the twin towers. Andrew also seems to have sided with Reynolds, Woods and Fetzer some might say he's painted himself into a corner on that one.

I'm just looking for some clarity quite simple really.

Here's what may be my last response to one of Andrews post (ironically on a chem-trails threads!!!):
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=52964#52964

You can judge whether I'm trolling or asking the tough questions?

Never did get that return phone call from Ian! Funny that. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My view is that only those who routinely swear or advertise sex sites or other products should be banned.

We are all entitled to an opinion however inharmonious its delivery may be.

I personally believe NPT does us a great deal of harm but I have no wish to see Boo Boo banned, he is actually quite inoffensive and simple most of the time.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me Patrick Brown is posting divisive attacks on other 9/11 activists and presenting opinions designed to divide ourselves and discredit us in the eyes of the casual visitor.

I could be wrong but this is how some of his latest posts particularly, strike me.

Banning might be a bit much (he has only fairly recently come to my attention) but the moderators will know better than the rest of us (having seen his form) and should act on their judgement.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Patrick Brown should be banned Reply with quote

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote:
To me it is clear as day that PB does not have the interests of the truth movement at heart.

Moderators do your job and get rid.

Is anyone brave enough to agree with me.


I'm inately suspicous of members asking for others to be banned: are you any different from PB?

If I can tolerate you I can tolerate him: and its both your failures if you can't tolerate each other: put your focus on that instead

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick ......you have not the slightest interest in 9/11+ the truth.....

Why are you here......

I challenge you to arrange an 9/11 truth meeting + I will debate the issues
with you.

Are you interested.....if not * off.....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there an echo around here: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=52998#52998 Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want me to arrange the meeting.? I live near Burnley, will that suit you.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick I like what you say, but certainly not the way you say it. With your constant accusations of people being Shills etc you have essentially lowered yourself to the level of TC, TTWSU3 and (dare I say it) Andrew.

This very thread demonstrates why it's not wise or productive to lower yourself to that level.

That said, I’d obviously echo the sentiment that if Patrick were banned then TC, TTWSU3 (though I appreciate that recently you've been far more pleasant!) Andrew and Brooklyn should also go. We’re just as likely to hear shouts of "Shill", swearing and general derision from them as we are from Patrick. I want to see these people called to account, and though of a different nature, your quality of posting is frequently as disruptive as theirs.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fallious wrote:
Patrick I like what you say, but certainly not the way you say it. With your constant accusations of people being Shills etc you have essentially lowered yourself to the level of TC, TTWSU3 and (dare I say it) Andrew.

This very thread demonstrates why it's not wise or productive to lower yourself to that level.

That said, I’d obviously echo the sentiment that if Patrick were banned then TC, TTWSU3 (though I appreciate that recently you've been far more pleasant!) Andrew and Brooklyn should also go. We’re just as likely to hear shouts of "Shill", swearing and general derision from them as we are from Patrick. I want to see these people gone or called to account, and your quality of posting is just frequently as disruptive as theirs.


This is TOP stuff! Really good! We know NOTHING about you Fallious. Speaking for myself, from threads here, people can find out:

Where I live
What I look like
My tel no
What I do for a living
Who I correspond with

So, you have a very great deal of work to do in convincing anyone other than Patrick Brown, Thermate, Ferric Mucus and similar posters (suffering from deranged nomenclature) that you are posting one shred of valid information.

You seem to forget that qutie a few people now know each other either through meetings or telephone conversations. I probably know, in person, about 20 of the other campaigners. I also know by telephone end e-mail perhaps as many more.

I think it's time for you to either give up your pointless quest or become a whistleblower.

Have a great day!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick I've also been warned by Andrew that if my current 'posting style' continues, I'll be banned.

Meantime you have threads like this which would elicit an immediate ban for the thread parent at a lot of other places I post at.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People ought to stop accusing others. That's the whole problem. We can make obnoxious comments about each other whilst still remaining true to our basic proposition.
The 'how' seems to be the main bone of contention, which while important is ridiculous on the whole
The mainstream is picking this up all over the place and the last thing we need is internecine squabbling
Let's give it a rest awhile and see how this thing starts to play out, because pretty soon, one way or another we really are going to need to front out there as the cover-ups and lies begin to receive the full public inspection, perhaps recovered with full-on mayhem from the PTB
We need to be astute and alert as our underground bickering becomes irrelevant as the central findings see the light of day
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Johnson wrote:
...crispy poop squares...


Like I said before, MI5 assets have real world addresses too. I tend to evaluate peoples worth around here by the quality of the evidence / idea / event they post.

You score very highly in Events and Ideas, but I’m sorry to say you get a [F]in quality of evidence.

Oh wait. You just introduced a personal attack and circular debate into yet another thread. Nice going.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fallious wrote:
Andrew Johnson wrote:
...crispy poop squares...



Ooops - looks desparate - attributing stuff to me that I never posted myself. Why don't you admit defeat rather than continually re-illustrating your failed tactics? You can easily sign up under a new user name - that will give you a little more time to post more nonesense. Again, you are doing a good job of being self-documenting

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dh wrote:
People ought to stop accusing others. That's the whole problem. We can make obnoxious comments about each other whilst still remaining true to our basic proposition.
...............

Peace, love and unity


Amen to that

I refer people to this post.

When I get a chance I will type up the moderation policy in full but just to clarify, evidence free accusations of shill will led to a ban. If you are not sure what is considered evidence (as opposed to specualtion) I recommend you contact me for clarification. If past posting behaviour is repeated both Patrick and TTWSU3 will cross this line. Again if anyone wishes clarification on what is and is not accetable, feel free to contact me.

I ask both 'sides' in this to be patient and wait for the plans on the future of this forum and the wider web presence of the campaign that were agreed at the weekend to be written up, shared with the committee members and fellow moderators. Once this record of these discussions is accepted, it will be posted here for your information

In the meantime I am locking this thread. Do not try to start similar threads on similar topics because guess what, that will also lead to them being locked and to a ban for those failing to respect this forum's moderation policy

Thank you
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