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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Peter Power said “with their assistance” Reply with quote

I don't normally talk about 7/7 but I figured this comment from Peter Power was worth clarifying as it does have a 911 connection. This thread may get moved to the 7/7 section although I hope not as I don't think many people look in that section.

First lets watch the short ITN news clip:


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Here's a direct link in case the above doesn't work: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8297777754684644894

Power says with “their assistance” his company chose the locations for the terror drills that were being running on 7/7. This suggests that “they” may have had foreknowledge and wanted to implement Power and make him and the British government look as if they we're involved. Just for the record if Power was lying why would he have said anything?

Power then said “they are (the people his company was running the drill for) very close to a property occupied by Jewish businessmen. So note he doesn't say he was employed by Jewish businessmen but that the people he worked for lived near their property.

I'm not sure where I heard it from but it has been suggested that the people Power was working for were from Saudi Arabia (very wealthy Arabs). Bin Laden was a Saudi and we shouldn't forget the specially laid on jumbo jet which flew a whole bunch of wealthy Saudis out of America the day after 911 (CIA involvement or just the power of money??)!

Another thread to all this is the massive building projects going on in Saudi Arabia. Currently the Saudis are constructing several massive cities on dessert lands. We're talking cities here with skyscrapers, hospitals, schools, lakes and golf courses etc. So is this an indicator of the mindset of these once poor but now unbelievably wealthy people? Also worth remembering that the holy Muslim city of Mecca is located in Saudi Arabia.

Hmm so maybe Bin Laden really did plan 911?

Perhaps we're coming full circle here?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Peter Power said “with their assistance” Reply with quote

Patrick Brown wrote:

Hmm so maybe Bin Laden really did plan 911?



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bin Laden is/was a very wealthy Arab and I'm sure he was/is very well connected. He was in fact so well connected that there is a story that the CIA were providing him with private medical care days before 911.

I don't know much about Bin Laden apart from the story that he used to be a playboy (we're talking sex drugs and rock 'n' roll) who then became a devote Muslim and then an extremist. It's therefore easy to see, providing the story is true, that this man is an unpredictable extremist by nature but this doesn't mean he's stupid. To underestimate the determination of extremists would be a big mistake.

I'm personally finding all the anti-western stuff very tedious and shill like so I'm remaining open minded. I don't know who perpetrated 911 so I'm therefore not going to put all my eggs in one basket. People should remember that we may not be dealing with just a few people here but a collective mindset that has been pre-programed with a designated goal/aim. This could just as easily apply to the west as to the east.

Stepping back will bring you closer but the meme is of it's own design and is what our ego is built upon! Thus the root is the mother of the tree and the tree is the seed of the root. Harmony will become dis-harmony and a lie will become a truth. The only wisdom a man can gain is through experience and so he learns when it's time to stop.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for what it's worth I figure it's more likely that Bin Laden had something to do with 911 than Bush or Blair.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all 3 maybe, OBL alone?

stand down orders = OBL ?

bush not be moved to safty instantly = OBL pre planted glue on the chair?

failure of media to report anything real and when they do its tarred with ridicule = OBL ?

WTC7 = OBL ?

so you dont believe thermate anymore? if you do = OBL ?

OBL would of had no way of doing it without inside help surely.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
all 3 maybe, OBL alone?

OBL is one person and I certainly not suggesting he planned it all himself. It's to easy to point at Bush and Blair as they're the western leaders of countries that invaded Iraq and we certainly have evidence for that but no evidence that they we're involved in 911.

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stand down orders = OBL ?

Could have been people working for the MIC (Military Industrial Complex). More likely that people really thought it was part of the FEMA terrorism drill that was being run i.e. confusesion. But what is suspicious is that planes weren't in the air to at least escort the jumbos this does suggest that someone didn't want them shot down.

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bush not be moved to safty instantly = OBL pre planted glue on the chair?

The decision for Bush to stay-put doesn't seem to have anything to do with Bush himself. Again there could be a large degree of confusion about the reports of aircraft impacts because of the FEMA terrorism drill. This points away from the American government but doesn't count out the MIC or terrorists.

Also worth noting that the date 911 may have been chosen for the FEMA drill because of it's connection to the emergency number but this may have just been a bonus for the perpetrators. It's easy to understand why the date 9/11 may have been chosen by someone behind a desk who thought they was being clever but unwittingly their choice just adds to the confusion.

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failure of media to report anything real and when they do its tarred with ridicule = OBL ?

This is just propaganda and pretty much every country in the world is guilty of it. Having said that OBL may well have been the escape-goat the the government need because of suspicions about the MIC although that doesn't mean he didn't have any involvement. You must admit that it is odd that all those wealthy Arabs we're flown out of America the next day whilst every other aircraft was grounded! If nothing else it shows that there is a strong connection between certain American officials and wealthy Arabs.

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WTC7 = OBL ?


Well this may have been pulled by the government but again I doubt it. More likely to be the MIC covering their backs and burying the evidence connecting them to OBL. So Building 7 gives us a reason to suspect that the MIC may have been working through the CIA in a plot with OBL.
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so you dont believe thermate anymore? if you do = OBL ?

Thermite can be bought on ebay the problem is access to the tower and we do know that the top of the south tower was powered down a couple of days before 911 and workmen were all over the tower laying, what we are lead to believe was, internet caballing. I think the evidence for thermite is pretty strong as is the evidence for controlled demolition but it doesn't mean the American government had any involvement.

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OBL would of had no way of doing it without inside help surely.

It's is unlikely that terrorists could have pulled it off without inside help but perhaps not impossible. I think it's highly likely that the MIC were involved but not a definite.

We need to rule out every possibility that terrorists could have pulled off 911 without the MIC before we start a witch-hunt. There's certainly no doubt that the American government have a very poor record as far as foreign policy goes. The CIA's name is also mud because of their involvement with drug trafficking and organized crime. But on the flip side we have a very unstable middle east with many having concerns about these countries acquiring nuclear weapons. It seems pretty obvious that Iran with all it's oil doesn't need nuclear power so what do you think they're up to. Also winding up American and many other countries by starting uranium enrichment can only be counter productive.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is absolute rubbish. Disinformation. A window into shillery. Sometimes it is hard to tell who is who on this site but here it is easy.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick Brown wrote:
It's to easy to point at Bush and Blair


Bush is a patsy, he probably doesn't even know what day of the week it is until his advisers tell him. The look on his face at Booker Elementary and the upside down book (for 10mins) said it all. Blair's just a deputy and accessory, neither of them planned this, they're just involved in covering it up and perpetuating the agenda it spawned.

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kbo234 wrote:
This thread is absolute rubbish. Disinformation. A window into shillery. Sometimes it is hard to tell who is who on this site but here it is easy.

Would you care to expand on that a bit?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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marky 54 wrote:
all 3 maybe, OBL alone?

OBL is one person and I certainly not suggesting he planned it all himself. It's to easy to point at Bush and Blair as they're the western leaders of countries that invaded Iraq and we certainly have evidence for that but no evidence that they we're involved in 911.

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stand down orders = OBL ?

Could have been people working for the MIC (Military Industrial Complex). More likely that people really thought it was part of the FEMA terrorism drill that was being run i.e. confusesion. But what is suspicious is that planes weren't in the air to at least escort the jumbos this does suggest that someone didn't want them shot down.

Quote:
bush not be moved to safty instantly = OBL pre planted glue on the chair?

The decision for Bush to stay-put doesn't seem to have anything to do with Bush himself. Again there could be a large degree of confusion about the reports of aircraft impacts because of the FEMA terrorism drill. This points away from the American government but doesn't count out the MIC or terrorists.

Also worth noting that the date 911 may have been chosen for the FEMA drill because of it's connection to the emergency number but this may have just been a bonus for the perpetrators. It's easy to understand why the date 9/11 may have been chosen by someone behind a desk who thought they was being clever but unwittingly their choice just adds to the confusion.

Quote:
failure of media to report anything real and when they do its tarred with ridicule = OBL ?

This is just propaganda and pretty much every country in the world is guilty of it. Having said that OBL may well have been the escape-goat the the government need because of suspicions about the MIC although that doesn't mean he didn't have any involvement. You must admit that it is odd that all those wealthy Arabs we're flown out of America the next day whilst every other aircraft was grounded! If nothing else it shows that there is a strong connection between certain American officials and wealthy Arabs.

Quote:
WTC7 = OBL ?


Well this may have been pulled by the government but again I doubt it. More likely to be the MIC covering their backs and burying the evidence connecting them to OBL. So Building 7 gives us a reason to suspect that the MIC may have been working through the CIA in a plot with OBL.
Quote:
so you dont believe thermate anymore? if you do = OBL ?

Thermite can be bought on ebay the problem is access to the tower and we do know that the top of the south tower was powered down a couple of days before 911 and workmen were all over the tower laying, what we are lead to believe was, internet caballing. I think the evidence for thermite is pretty strong as is the evidence for controlled demolition but it doesn't mean the American government had any involvement.

Quote:
OBL would of had no way of doing it without inside help surely.

It's is unlikely that terrorists could have pulled it off without inside help but perhaps not impossible. I think it's highly likely that the MIC were involved but not a definite.

We need to rule out every possibility that terrorists could have pulled off 911 without the MIC before we start a witch-hunt. There's certainly no doubt that the American government have a very poor record as far as foreign policy goes. The CIA's name is also mud because of their involvement with drug trafficking and organized crime. But on the flip side we have a very unstable middle east with many having concerns about these countries acquiring nuclear weapons. It seems pretty obvious that Iran with all it's oil doesn't need nuclear power so what do you think they're up to. Also winding up American and many other countries by starting uranium enrichment can only be counter productive.


ok i see where your coming from at least. i have no way to prove its not true so i wont. but surely bush and blair knew not long after what was going on if your right with this scenerio, or do you think they have been kept in the dark all this time? i can see from your scenerio though that they proberbly have no choice but to be silent or maybe even saw it as an opertunity to gain for themselves, whats your postion on what bush and blair know today?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
ok i see where your coming from at least. i have no way to prove its not true so i wont. but surely bush and blair knew not long after what was going on if your right with this scenerio, or do you think they have been kept in the dark all this time? i can see from your scenerio though that they proberbly have no choice but to be silent or maybe even saw it as an opertunity to gain for themselves, whats your postion on what bush and blair know today?

I don't really have an opinion about Bush and Blair because I don't know what they know. If the MIC were involved with OBL you can imagine the Bush government eventually finding out but not telling the British government about the MIC involvement.

Remember to take this thread with a pinch of salt as it all hinges on who Peter Power was working for on 7/7 and whether his words can be trusted. We also don't know how secret the terrorism drill was. If thousands of people knew about the drill it makes it far more difficult to figure out the possible perpetrators of 7/7 and by perpetrators I mean the people that organized it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Israeli security running the tube

No CCTV

What were Visor up to? Who were they working with?

The SAUDIS!!! LOL Mr Brown - you have put your foot right in it M8.

'very close to a property occupied by Jewish businessmen'

I bet.

Why did you post this now, Partick. Have you been told to get a limited hangout meme rolling perhaps? Did the Saudis provide witnesses that saw the 4 backpackers on a non-existent train journey from Luton? LOL again,

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rodin wrote:
Israeli security running the tube

No CCTV

What were Visor up to? Who were they working with?

The SAUDIS!!! LOL Mr Brown - you have put your foot right in it M8.

'very close to a property occupied by Jewish businessmen'

I bet.

Why did you post this now, Partick. Have you been told to get a limited hangout meme rolling perhaps? Did the Saudis provide witnesses that saw the 4 backpackers on a non-existent train journey from Luton? LOL again,

Can I C your evidence? Rolling Eyes

No!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evidence of the forged witness statements regarding the non-existent train is easy to verify and posted on this forum. I presume you mean my 'evidence' that Visor was much more likely to be working with the security company in charge of the tube. Here goes...

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POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.


Who apart from Tube security could activ8 crisis management?

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Employees
As of January 31, 2005, the Company had approximately 1,200 employees. A majority
of its employees are scientists, engineers or technicians engaged in research and development,
sales and marketing, and operations. The Company considers its relationship with its employees
to be good. Verint’s employees in the United States are not covered by any collective bargaining
agreement. Verint’s employees outside the United States are entitled to severance and other
benefits mandated under local laws. Approximately 41%, 40%, 16% and 3% of the Company’s
employees are located in North America, Israel, Europe and APAC, respectively.
Israeli law generally requires the payment by employers of severance pay upon the death
of an employee, retirement or upon termination of employment, and the Company provides for
such payment obligations through monthly contributions to an insurance fund. Additionally,
Israeli employees and employers are required to pay pre-determined sums to the National
Insurance Institute, which covers medical and other benefits similar to the benefits provided by
the United States Social Security Administration.


http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/13/131/131043/items/163095/vrn t10k.pdf

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