Alan Watt on 911 truthers

[rodin]

[rodin]

Patrick Brown might like this...

[Emmanuel]

Thanks for that link Rodin.
Alan Watt is on the ball for sure!
Audio here:
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http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/radio/Special_Talks.html[/url]

[alexsandie]

Alan Watt is undoubtedly a learned and scholarly man. But he has nothing of worth to offer to the 'truth' movements, be that 9/11 or any other truth campaign. He has read a lot of books and formed a lot of theories. But he is not a campaigner, nor an activist involved in trying to improve human life, now or for the future. He is simply making a living from what he knows (or as someone recently said to me, he is a "victim of his own celebrity").

I heard Alan Watt on a radio show (one of the many radio shows he appears on) and he stated that he was now being contacted by the media from lots of countries, including Britain. I emailed him to ask who in Britain had contacted him (as I don't have any success trying to get the truth about Dunblane out here in Britain I was curious to know who had shown interest in his esoteric ramblings) and received the following reply on 11 January 2007:

[Emmanuel]

Alexsandie,
Why are you bothering to write about someone you dont think much of then?
911 truth movement is a more noticeble part of the wakeup of people finding out what is very wrong in the world and Alan Watt spoke of this before and after the event too.
Whats wrong with making money from what you believe in? Should we be working in arms factories by day and then preaching 911 truth by night to be respected?
There are some serious fragmentation and polarisations going on in this "movement" right now which is making me very wary of everyone who posts here.

Please stop wasting our time, we will destroy ourselves if we focus on censoring "this person is not really 911", blah blah baaaaaaah
Information is meant for sharing, to really increase its value.

[Bongo]

Jacob...

[London Mick]

So I'm not the only one who enjoys Alan Watts soporific late night ramblings? (Well, I usually play his latest blurb at bedtime)

As someone said....so what if he is able to make a few bob at what he is doing. Of course he is a campaigner. He awakens thousands to what is really going on. We all campaign in different ways.

I admire you, Sandra, for your work on the Dunblane coverup but I think you are wrong about Alan. He had the decency to reply to an e mail of mine so I like him even more.

[Emmanuel]

Bongo...
Of course, sometimes I'm not sure if anyone can understand what i write most the time!
Yes I have been inspired by "V for Vendetta"ever since I watched it.

Re: Alan Watt and others. We have to read and listen to people with knowledge before we can really be activists really.

"Sometimes theres inaction in action and action in inaction"
Bhagavad Gita

[alexsandie]

I will admit that I initially found Alan Watt's stuff fascinating, but the bottom line is, if he really believes that a Satanic conspiracy has been played out over thousands of years which ultimately led to the new world order which includes plans to depopulate the planet and that this is what led to the legalisation of abortion, then the man is either deluded or has no real life experience.

I don't believe there is any Satanic conspiracy at work, but if I did, then I could equally contend that allowing women to die from back-street abortion was the work of the Devil. You could argue just as strongly that such deaths caused depopulation, which the globalists want apparently.

I know the subject of abortion is particularly divisive, and there are no easy answers. But I'm sorry, I'm a rational human being and when I hear some of the stuff guys like Alan Watt say on this subject, I wonder if it isn't simply misogyny in disguise. In fact, there appears to be quite a lot of that in the 9/11 truth movement, including Alex Jones, Jeff Rense and others. I find it quite ironic that the official version of events re 9/11 was that it was an attack on western values, which in part included the advancement of women through education and employment, and then what do we see as part of the mindset of certain male 9/11 truthers? Now that scares me. It is dangerous and deluded and it needs to be exposed. And I am entitled to my opinion of course.

[rodin]

No 'truther' should be trusted. What really matters is truth. People are fallible. Watt should be taken for what he is - someone with a story to tell and a mine of information to draw on. But as to the Satanic Elite part of it-well, let's get the perps of 911 and see where it leads.

'I was sitting inside the classroom - the TV was obviously on - I saw the plane hit the tower and thoought gee what a terrible pilot musta been a horrible accident...' Bush

'Our purpose was to document the event' Mossad agent

There were numerous witnesses cited who saw 4 backpackers on the train from Luton - a ghost train from platform 9 3/4 which was cancelled.

Just the above should bring the house of cards down.

[Emmanuel]

I havent looked at the subject of abortion in Watts work however I would agree that there is an overall agenda for the human race to be manipulated and depopulated.

I know there are rare circumstances where abortion has to be taken into consideration but ultimately abortion is about killing, as is war.
As much is there are unseen forces at work here which want to make things better in the world, there are demonic forces too, inviting more blood sacrifice.

Foot and Mouth disease, Bird flu, The false war on terror, Abortion. The focus is on making life appear as if it has no value. That we are just matter, all an accident, from the big bang. that patterns are just coincidences.
This is a false belief system more than having a belief that life should be valued and people should take responsiblity for their actions.
I am not necessarily a man either.

[Emmanuel]

"Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside-down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality"

- Michael Ellner

[alexsandie]

[John White]

[John White]

Watt makes a good case in many ways: but he is dour and cynical in his outlook, and throws out far to many arrows for them all to be on target: if he has a failing, its that his vision is unable to encompass solutions and inevitably his thoughts do veer towards the potentially paranoid too often to feel entirley comfortable that his vision is clear: balanced of course by his flashes of potential genius

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Hello all, new here. Looks like a fun place.

I'd like to add my own 2 cents, in that I think it's time for the Truth Movement to refine itself. I don't like to listen now to just anyone who spews 75% factual evidence and 25% emotionally-driven gunk. I've heard Alan Watt, and although I was initially intrigued (and informed in many ways), I've now fallen out of love with his shtick, as it were. I agree that to the absolute 'newbies', it may help wake them up. But I'm beyond it now, and with serious researchers - as I assume most of us fancy ourselves to be, it's counter-productive.

Think of 9/11 as a court case - which it is, in many ways. Bad witnesses with bad evidence will get your case lost every time. If your star witness can describe the crime scene in great detail, and point your suspect out of a lineup, then claim he was late getting to court because he had been temporarily abducted by Satanists.... his testimony is trashed (for more info, google 'Ross Perot'). But I admit, the belief system is a belief system.

Also, I just can't listen to the negative stuff anymore, as if I'm being programmed to simply accept the NWO as an inevitable political progression. I need some hope, some positive vibes, you know?

But I also need some intelligent debate, so... I'm here.

[ian neal]

Hi Doctor and welcome

We will be redesigning the forum in the near future.

One of the new sections will be on visions and solutions for the future, which hopefully should contain lots of positivity

[Dr. Zoidberg]

[alexsandie]