Bereaved 7/7 & 9/11 relatives/victims 'phones hacked'

[TonyGosling]

Daily Telegraph, 7 July 2011




News of the World: bereaved relatives of 7/7 victims 'had phones hacked'

Bereaved relatives of the July 7 bombings had their phones hacked by journalists at the News of the World, police believe.
It is thought that journalists were seeking to access voice messages left on family members' phones as they desperately waited for information about their loved ones in the aftermath of the 7/7 bombings in 2005

By Duncan Gardham, Mark Hughes, John Bingham and Victoria Ward

10:01PM BST 05 Jul 2011
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtele coms/8619373/News-of-the-World-bereaved-relatives-of-77-victims-had-ph ones-hacked.html

Detectives from Scotland Yard’s team investigating the phone hacking scandal are in the process of contacting a “handful” of the 52 bereaved families whose names or phone numbers have appeared as part of their inquiry, sources told the Daily Telegraph.

It is thought that journalists were seeking to access voice messages left on family members’ phones as they desperately waited for information about their loved ones in the aftermath of the bombings in 2005.

It is unclear if they were aware at that stage that their relatives had died in the bombings.

The news will come as a deep shock to the relatives affected, coming as it does on the eve of the sixth anniversary of the bombings.

Last night Clifford Tibber, solicitor for a number of the families, said he was unaware of the development but added: “This will cause heartache for all the families involved. The anniversary is such an emotional moment for everybody who was caught up in the bombings and many of them still struggle at this time of year.”

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police refused to comment on the continuing investigation.


..The disclosure that the News of the World phone hacking allegations involved the victims of crime as well as high-profile celebrities raised the possibility that other victims’ families were hacked — something police were examining. "Basically every major crime story, every major news event, there was some sort of hacking involved," said a senior police source. "It was systematic."

[TonyGosling]

Glenn Mulcaire secretly filmed talking about hacking
Thursday 07 July 2011
Exclusive: the man at the centre of the phone hacking inquiry is filmed by a Dispatches team for Channel 4 News talking candidly about his work for the News of the World.
Confronted on his own doorstep by a woman whose private details he obtained and released to the press, Mulcaire was recorded by a hidden camera. Asked "Who might have been the person who asked you to do it?", he responds "I can't answer that because again it was by committee." His lawyer later emphasised that Mulcaire was using the phrase to mean more than one individual, not a formal committee set up to manage him.
The revelation that more than one person directed his activity is significant because the News of the World insisted for many years that the commissioning of voicemail hacking had been the work of a single rogue journalist, the paper's former royal editor Clive Goodman. Mulcaire was jailed in 2007 along with Goodman for intercepting voicemail messages of the Royal family, as our home affairs correspondent explains in this special report.
http://www.channel4.com/news/glenn-mulcaire-hacking-authorised-by-comm ittee

[Life]

This whole thing is a move to further regulate the press, aka the alternative media.

If the powers that be are concerned about hacking then why did they licence 3G? It is the 3G platform and phones that allow this sort of thing and was obviously the very aim of Intel...

Would people be bothered about the hacking of the girls phone if the press had found some serious truth over the actual trial and sentence of the chap who carried out the deed? The same with the Soam murders, if the press had found something other than what had been offered as fact by the police, then the hackers would be the hero's.

It is the same mindset crying over this as those who carp on about CCTV and such when they say :

"if you ain't doing anything wrong then what have you to worry about"

I could not care less if my phone got hacked, they would find nothing Intel haven't seen already, the same with the Internet, everything electronic communication is a wide open platform for Intelligence, so why are people getting excited about the press being able to find out what we need to know? While allowing the real enemy...Intel, an open line into everything we do?

And we wonder why nothing ever changes to the benefit of we little people...

Chasing the Intel dragon keeps you off the real scent, the epitaph of the truth movement, if there ever was such a thing....

Victim mentality is becoming the British MO

[Andrew.]

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Some experts say that the security design was weakened on purpose and could be made far more secure (other than the Intel that we know that can listen in etc) Apparently on the black market devices can be bought for such activities, which then could give the Intel plausible deniability.

I do know that even the Emergency services (Including the police) have their own gsm network called airwaves that I have worked on in the past (I don’t know how secure that is.)

Such as the searches:

gsm secrets revealed, gsm listening authorities listening devices.

[scienceplease 2]

http://m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23262694

Interesting cross-over from the Phone Hacking scandal...

[Life]

We have an interesting post from scienceplease 2, in which he presents information as regards the hacking of 911 victims :

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=156485#156485

Is it possible that the News of the World is the scapegoat for hacking carried out by Intelligence to remove texts and perhaps conversation records from the phones of victims to ensure nothing that would contradict the cover script for 911, 77, the Soam murders, our dead soldiers and Millie Dowler?

This would place the journalists exposed as carrying out the hacks as Intelligence operatives first, acting as Journalist's.

What we masses have lost is a renown paper which dug deep and found skulduggery while propping up the remaining papers to bolster their falling sales and thus means to propagate propaganda, of course counting on the fact News of the World readers will shift to other rags for their Sunday read...

[TonyGosling]

The boundaries between the bad intelligence guys and the Murdoch empire seem pretty blurred.

[Disco_Destroyer]

Imagine what Rupert Murdock could do if someone was trying to nail him

[outsider]

Murdock's 'hidden' Jewish ancestry (via mother) and membership of ADL, plus useful info re Silverstein and 'purchase' of 99 year lease of WTC:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/16/murdochs-deeply-hidden-jewish- roots-a-biography/

[conspiracy analyst]

This is more to do with the confrlict between the Obankster and the
Republicans, in the USA and how to deal with the default which is banging at their door....

He has got the British Bilderburgers to attack Murdoch in order to
spread the attack on his supportes in the US Republican party via curbs which will be implemented against Fox News in the USA.

This is a fratricidal war between bent politicians, the corrupt media and bent coppers. Good will eventually come of it as their relationships have been blown out into the open for all to see, without the helf of 'conspiracy theorists'.

Cameron used to go horseriding with Rebeka Brooks now she has been arrested. A Police Commissioner has now just resinged as well.

[conspiracy analyst]

[Disco_Destroyer]

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-se lect/culture-media-and-sport-committee/news/news-international-executi ves-respond-to-summons/
News International executives respond to Commons summons

[conspiracy analyst]

Hugh Grant on CNN about Newscorps collusion with the Met...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YECmQWqUaP4&feature=player_embedded

Interestingly enough the police commissioner that resigned did it when Cameron was in the air on the way to S Africa...

[outsider]

[Andrew.]

[outsider]

[Andrew.]

[TonyGosling]

August 24, 2011
9/11 Families Bring Phone Hacking Concerns To Eric Holder
NEW YORK -- Relatives of 9/11 victims were headed to Washington on Wednesday to meet with Attorney General Eric Holder about allegations surrounding Britain's phone hacking scandal.
According to a London tabloid's story based on unnamed sources, a former New York police officer who became a private investigator said he rejected requests by journalists from Rupert Murdoch's News of the World to retrieve private phone records of Sept. 11 victims. The U.S.-based parent company for Murdoch's News Corp. has called the report "anonymous speculation" with "no substantiation."
Norman Siegel, an attorney representing some 9/11 victims' relatives, said the family members want to cooperate with the FBI and the Department of Justice "to determine if such hacking was attempted, and/or occurred."
"We are going to the meeting with the attorney general to listen to what he can tell us about the investigation and to ascertain the scope, the goals and timetable of the inquiry," Siegel said.
Retired New York Deputy Fire Chief Jim Riches was among family members from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut taking a train from Manhattan to Washington on Wednesday to attend the meeting with Holder. Riches said federal investigators "have permission to investigate my cell lines, my family's, whatever they need."
He lost his son, Firefighter Jimmy Riches, 29, in the attacks and also was involved in search and recovery efforts at the World Trade Center site, "picking up body parts."
"We just want some information, whether these allegations are actually true or not true," said Riches. "We feel we deserve to know."
If the allegations are true, the families affected should be notified and those responsible should be held accountable, he said.
"Something like this – a terrible loss, losing a son like that – I don't think anybody has the right to pry into our personal lives, unless they're invited in," said Riches.
Riches noted that about six months after his son's body was found, the family received calls telling them that more remains had been located.
"We wouldn't want something so horrible, for someone else to be listening to that. Nobody should invade that privacy," he said.
Asked if the upcoming 10th anniversary of the terror attacks gave added resonance to the meeting, Riches replied that the "pain is coming back for a lot of the families."
But while the anniversary is refocusing the attention of "the whole nation and the whole world," Riches said, "we live 9/11 every day. My son is never going to walk through the door. There will never be any closure."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/phone-hacking-911-families-er ic-holder_n_935145.html