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| Ignatz wrote: | | rodin wrote: |
1) Ignatz brought up the fire-and-chimney analogy, not me. Still never let the truth get in the way of a good debunking...
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It wasn't an analogy, it was an example. Are you totally sure you have a PhD?
I was pointing out that your assertion about temperatures being higher well above the fire is just plain wrong.
It remains wrong, and always will be.
Temperature is always highest in the fire, which makes perfect sense as it's the fire that is the source of the energy. Heat can only be lost as the plume rises.
For example please read the following --
"The starting point for discussing this topic can be the work of the late Dr. McCaffrey, who made extensive measurements [4] of temperatures in turbulent diffusion flames. He used gas burners in a "pool fire" mode (i.e., non-premixed) and studied various characteristics of such fire plumes. He described three different regimes in such a fire plume:
Slightly above the base of the fire begins the continuous flame region. Here the temperatures are constant and are slightly below 900°C.
Above the solid flame region is the intermittent flame region. Here the temperatures are continuously dropping as one moves up the plume. The visible flame tips correspond to a temperature of about 320°C.
Finally, beyond the flame tips is the thermal plume region, where no more flames are visible and temperature continually drop with height"
from : http://www.doctorfire.com/flametmp.html
I suppose that, with you having made so many mistakes in one post, one should allow you some 'getout' to preserve your dignity ???
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No. What I am saying is that the fire itself will tend towards higher so long as the structure remains relatively intact which WTC7 evidently did. Fanned by the convection currents set up by thermals. I am not talking about the various parts of the flame.
I am not going to re-invent the wheel. Here is a perfectly good debunk of the 911 CT debunkers.
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/gopm/index.html
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WT7
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Say it again and again, because if that isn't a CD we have NOTHING.
Just drones and imaginary technology and Thermite. Ohe please let Thermite not be the ravings of lunatics...
Oh *. It is.
Oh Dear. I'll have to study for my GCSEs instead...
The Truth is out there. It sure as hell isn't on this website you poor under-educated *.
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Mental illness in incredibly common.
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| Batrabill wrote: | | if that isn't a CD we have NOTHING. . |
You mean we have no fake Osama video?
No dancing Israelis?
No free-fall collapse
N... zzzzzzzzzzz
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Oh God have mercy on my soul. I HAVE to ask...what dancing Israelis?
Is this something to do with the thread I read earlier where some nice people were suggesting 6 million Jews didn't die?
To the Moderators credit, that seems to have gone, but it is worrying isn't it when it turns out to be all Mossads fault? |
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Oh, get a life.
You have to admit, it makes any thinking person a bit nervous to discover "It was all a Zionist conspiracy"
Or maybe it doesn't. Did you read the thread questioning if 6 million Jews really died?
It's been deleted now, but I have a memory of a bit where it talked about the inmates doctors surgery and brothel at Auschwitz.
Not nice. Not nice at all. The Mods (generally spineless sheep) deleted it. |
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| how many none evidence based posts can one make without being banned? they dont even discuss evidence maturly |
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I presume you looked at the video where one of the 'Dancing Israelis' (Google - they are an icon) admits that their purpose in filming was to 'document the event'.
How did they know 911 was going to happen?
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| Batrabill wrote: | WT7
WT7
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Say it again and again, because if that isn't a CD we have NOTHING.
Just drones and imaginary technology and Thermite. Ohe please let Thermite not be the ravings of lunatics...
Oh *. It is.
Oh Dear. I'll have to study for my GCSEs instead...
The Truth is out there. It sure as hell isn't on this website you poor under-educated *.
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OK let's keep this simple, just for you. I asked you this on another thread but you side-stepped it. What happened to the top 25 stories of WTC2? Either post a photograph of the rubble pile that it must have caused or else provide a convincing explanation of why there isn't such a photo. No dancing Israelis, no mention of WTC7, let's just sort out this one mystery first. |
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| Quote: | I presume you looked at the video where one of the 'Dancing Israelis' (Google - they are an icon) admits that their purpose in filming was to 'document the event'.
How did they know 911 was going to happen? |
In that clip, they don't say what event they were there to document. Quote mining? Bit of editing. How reliable is the translation to English from the Hebrew? The FBI cleared them.
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| A Sharp Major wrote: | | Quote: | I presume you looked at the video where one of the 'Dancing Israelis' (Google - they are an icon) admits that their purpose in filming was to 'document the event'.
How did they know 911 was going to happen? |
In that clip, they don't say what event they were there to document. Quote mining? Bit of editing. How reliable is the translation to English from the Hebrew? The FBI cleared them. |
how picky do critics want to get. the fact is you dont know but you will try to debunk it anyway.
they were arrested after celebrating the event they were filming which was 9/11, what event do you think they were talking about? just a bit of logic will tell you. ok yes lets pick fault with the translation he must be lieing because it suggests foreknowledge by others, if it comes out of a ct'ers mouth it cannot be true right? so the translator is just a dirty big fat liar, or of course he translated it properly but that cannot be true now could it, that would mean you'd have to admit there was foreknowledge of the event(you know the one they were filming and arrested for celebrating? what was it again?) |
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although i will point out from that clip there could be two meanings to the words. "our purpose was to document the event" = foreknowledge it would happen so they were there waiting. or they heard about the first plane hitting and from that point once they had learnt about it it was there purpose to document the event.
however when they say "event" they are refering to 9/11 and i very much doubt the translator is in on a conspiracy theory and would lie about what they said when it would be soooo easy to expose the lie.
so just pointing out that the small clip could be disinfo like some of the NPT clips to get you to believe "mossad" were involved. you really need the full clip to tell if there is one.
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Sorry about the delay rodin. I wasn't aware of your post addressed to me until today. I do get out.
I clicked on the first link and the graphics make it an awkward read. Style over substance? I didn't get far before my eyes objected. I expect the others are more of the same.
I recall an interview with a few men, on an Israeli TV show, in Hebrew with a voiceover in English saying 'we were there to document the event'. It is included on this site somewhere, you may have linked it in this thread but who can account for the identity of the men or the translation?
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| Quote: | | how picky do critics want to get. the fact is you dont know but you will try to debunk it anyway. |
With some certainty I can say that most conspiracy theorists don't know much about anything and seldom get out the house. Googling is not education, an article on a webpage that looks like an Ishihara plate isn't proof. Doesn't stop you attempting to prove what critics debunk. So what's the problem?
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| A Sharp Major wrote: | Sorry about the delay rodin. I wasn't aware of your post addressed to me until today. I do get out.
I clicked on the first link and the graphics make it an awkward read. Style over substance? I didn't get far before my eyes objected. I expect the others are more of the same.
I recall an interview with a few men, on an Israeli TV show, in Hebrew with a voiceover in English saying 'we were there to document the event'. It is included on this site somewhere, you may have linked it in this thread but who can account for the identity of the men or the translation?
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| Quote: | | how picky do critics want to get. the fact is you dont know but you will try to debunk it anyway. |
With some certainty I can say that most conspiracy theorists don't know much about anything and seldom get out the house. Googling is not education, an article on a webpage that looks like an Ishihara plate isn't proof. Doesn't stop you attempting to prove what critics debunk. So what's the problem? |
One could easily argue that you arm-chair debunkers don't get out of the house, either. With such limp arguments and mindless, ad hominems being posted as a poor substitute for sound analysis, can you wonder why some of us don't take seriously serial debunkers such as you. It's all about making put-down remarks, isn't it, so as to maintain the phony illusion that you have such lofty intellectual standards that you are not fooled by the weak evidence of conspiracy theorists. LOL! Actually, the shoe is on the other foot. You know you cannot win the argument about 9/11 being an inside job because the evidence is too strong, so you resort to name calling, nit picking and sarcasm in order to hide your intellectual impotence. And you have not figured out yet that your deception has been long rumbled?  |
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| Quote: | | One could easily argue that you arm-chair debunkers don't get out of the house, either. With such limp arguments and mindless, ad hominems being posted as a poor substitute for sound analysis, can you wonder why some of us don't take seriously serial debunkers such as you. |
Except, of course, that people at NIST, FEMA, MIT, and plenty of other real scientists and real engineers currently working in relevant fields have done real science - not theology professors, water testers, conspiracy talk show hosts, etc telling us that their analysis of youtube videos led them to conclude that it was a CD. That's why you constantly need to claim that the scientists are all "in on it" or afraid to lost their jobs - you have no real science, so you need to throw out all science to level the playing field. | Quote: | | Actually, the shoe is on the other foot. You know you cannot win the argument about 9/11 being an inside job because the evidence is too strong, so you resort to name calling, nit picking and sarcasm in order to hide your intellectual impotence. And you have not figured out yet that your deception has been long rumbled? |
This is a common boast. You and all your conspiracy friends believe it, and nobody can make you admit you are wrong ha ha ha ha HA!!!1!!!
Well the only problem then is that you are part of a small cult going nowhere. Even though you believe most people agree with you, there is scant evidence for that, unless you've somehow assembled the world's largest army of lazy, passive, and useless activists which despite their vast numbers can't seem to make the slightest dent in the status quo.
I'm sure you'll still believe you're right in 10 years, or 20, the problem is you won't have much more to show for it than you do now, which is nothing.
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| pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | One could easily argue that you arm-chair debunkers don't get out of the house, either. With such limp arguments and mindless, ad hominems being posted as a poor substitute for sound analysis, can you wonder why some of us don't take seriously serial debunkers such as you. |
Except, of course, that people at NIST, FEMA, MIT, and plenty of other real scientists and real engineers currently working in relevant fields have done real science - not theology professors, water testers, conspiracy talk show hosts, etc telling us that their analysis of youtube videos led them to conclude that it was a CD. That's why you constantly need to claim that the scientists are all "in on it" or afraid to lost their jobs - you have no real science, so you need to throw out all science to level the playing field. |
So would you agree that "real science" includes taking into account all of the forensic evidence available? If so, have any of these "real" scientists explained the extraordinary temperatures at the bottom of the "rubble" piles? I always had a feeling there might be a clue into the collapse there.
Or is it that the super, wonderful NIST - having proven by testing that the floor assemblies could be blasted with much more heat than on 9/11 without even getting close to collapsing - now have to rely on a computer simulation for the collapse mechanism?
How come these expert engineers all believed in 2002 that the fires would have burnt at 1800F or whatever was claimed in the Nova documentary - since proved to have been a hopelessly inaccurate temperatute estimate - pretty scandalous claiming to be an expert on anything if you don't do some research.
I always find the collapses easier to explain to myself if I include some explosives, especially around the central core as there is a lot of steel in there. Probably in the basement is where I would start. Luckily there are plenty of witnesses to explosions, quite a few corroborating each other's story.
And a final question, do you think that typing "ha ha ha ha" on a forum makes you sound just a wee bit creepy? |
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| Quote: | | So would you agree that "real science" includes taking into account all of the forensic evidence available? If so, have any of these "real" scientists explained the extraordinary temperatures at the bottom of the "rubble" piles? I always had a feeling there might be a clue into the collapse there. |
You go ahead and take that feeling to a structural engineer then. I'm sure if every troofer donates a dollar, you'll have enough to hire the best engineering firm in Venezuela or Iran. Or both. | Quote: | | Or is it that the super, wonderful NIST - having proven by testing that the floor assemblies could be blasted with much more heat than on 9/11 without even getting close to collapsing - now have to rely on a computer simulation for the collapse mechanism? |
The theory is not that the towers collapsed due to fire alone, although some have speculated that fire alone would have been sufficient. Maybe in another five years that will finally register in your brain. | Quote: | | How come these expert engineers all believed in 2002 that the fires would have burnt at 1800F or whatever was claimed in the Nova documentary - since proved to have been a hopelessly inaccurate temperatute estimate - pretty scandalous claiming to be an expert on anything if you don't do some research. |
"These engineers all believed", 1800F "or whatever"... don't know what you're talking about but sounds like the usual "they said" where who knows who "they" are or what exactly "they" said or why this has any relevance to the studies by NIST or FEMA or anyone else. Debunkers are not responsible for what anybody anywhere says at any time. | Quote: | | I always find the collapses easier to explain to myself if I include some explosives... |
No kidding. | Quote: | | especially around the central core as there is a lot of steel in there |
Funny how the parts of the central core remained standing if that was the part they blew up. | Quote: | | Probably in the basement is where I would start. |
So if you wanted a building to collapse from the top down, you'd start in the basement. Maybe this is why the troof movement doesn't want to talk to actual engineers. | Quote: | | Luckily there are plenty of witnesses to explosions, quite a few corroborating each other's story. |
Luckily? There are people who heard thunder, who heard trains, who heard car crashes. Why have you ruled these out? | Quote: | | And a final question, do you think that typing "ha ha ha ha" on a forum makes you sound just a wee bit creepy? |
I was imitating a troofer, and yes they are a bit creepy.
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| pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | So would you agree that "real science" includes taking into account all of the forensic evidence available? If so, have any of these "real" scientists explained the extraordinary temperatures at the bottom of the "rubble" piles? I always had a feeling there might be a clue into the collapse there. |
You go ahead and take that feeling to a structural engineer then. I'm sure if every troofer donates a dollar, you'll have enough to hire the best engineering firm in Venezuela or Iran. Or both. |
I see what you're doing here - avoiding the topic of the extraordinary temperatures. Surely there must be one of those scientists who can explain it for you?
| Pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | Or is it that the super, wonderful NIST - having proven by testing that the floor assemblies could be blasted with much more heat than on 9/11 without even getting close to collapsing - now have to rely on a computer simulation for the collapse mechanism? |
The theory is not that the towers collapsed due to fire alone, although some have speculated that fire alone would have been sufficient. Maybe in another five years that will finally register in your brain. |
Yes the theory is currently that the towers did not collapse due to fire alone - in fact they proved that the fires would have had no effect at all on the steel, due to the fact that they weren't hot enough and didn't burn for long enough. Yet in 2005, NIST said "However, the towers withstood the impacts and would have remained standing were it not for the dislodged insulation and the subsequent multifloor fires." I am glad you find it reassuring that NIST are the experts here.
| Pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | especially around the central core as there is a lot of steel in there |
Funny how the parts of the central core remained standing if that was the part they blew up. |
I do not recall any of the central core remaining standing - you have a photo of this event?
| Pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | Probably in the basement is where I would start. |
So if you wanted a building to collapse from the top down, you'd start in the basement. Maybe this is why the troof movement doesn't want to talk to actual engineers. |
Yes if I wanted to look if it collapsed from the top down - otherwise that central core would be sticking up in the air.
| Pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | Luckily there are plenty of witnesses to explosions, quite a few corroborating each other's story. |
Luckily? There are people who heard thunder, who heard trains, who heard car crashes. Why have you ruled these out? |
Yes very good, debunking 101 is passed with honours. I am still waiting to hear how the impact of a plane 95 floors up caused such a major explosion in the sub-basement as witnessed by William Rodriguez and others. I raise if from time to time on here ......
| Pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | And a final question, do you think that typing "ha ha ha ha" on a forum makes you sound just a wee bit creepy? |
I was imitating a troofer, and yes they are a bit creepy. |
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I do not recall any of the central core remaining standing - you have a photo of this event?
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The lower sections of both cores were the last parts to fall. The same photos of both have been posted on these forums several times. How have you managed to miss them, both here and on the other Truther websites?
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| Ignatz wrote: | | KP50 wrote: |
I do not recall any of the central core remaining standing - you have a photo of this event?
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The lower sections of both cores were the last parts to fall. The same photos of both have been posted on these forums several times. How have you managed to miss them, both here and on the other Truther websites? |
That is falling then and not remaining standing? And I have seen the videos and if I recall correctly it was in fact part of the lower part of the central core and not the whole 47 column wotsit? |
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| Ignatz wrote: | | KP50 wrote: |
I do not recall any of the central core remaining standing - you have a photo of this event?
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The lower sections of both cores were the last parts to fall. The same photos of both have been posted on these forums several times. How have you managed to miss them, both here and on the other Truther websites? |
Do you mean those partial cores (aka 'spires') that remain standing momentarily with what looks like all the structural integrity of talcum powder?
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Yes, those ones. Explain how explosives especially around the cores, probably in the basement, would lead to a top down collapse with the cores being the last thing standing.
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| KP50 wrote: | | Ignatz wrote: | | KP50 wrote: |
I do not recall any of the central core remaining standing - you have a photo of this event?
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The lower sections of both cores were the last parts to fall. The same photos of both have been posted on these forums several times. How have you managed to miss them, both here and on the other Truther websites? |
That is falling then and not remaining standing? And I have seen the videos and if I recall correctly it was in fact part of the lower part of the central core and not the whole 47 column wotsit? |
Yes, they fell last and the beamers like to say they disintegrated. But they cannot be both one of the last pieces of the structure to remain standing and one of the first pieces to be attacked, by bombs in the basement. Since we have pictures of them standing and William Rodrigues' story changed very substantially over time, I doubt they were attacked with bombs.
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| pepik wrote: | | Yes, those ones. Explain how explosives especially around the cores, probably in the basement, would lead to a top down collapse with the cores being the last thing standing. |
Explain? EXPLAIN?? How do you propose that could be done here, other than by speculating that to cause a top down collapse, the core was sequentially destroyed, probably at the mechanical floors and the basement.
Your question would be better directed at how those cores fell at all - what caused them to drop straight down? It sure wasn't due to rubble from heaven above as your beloved Official Theory would have us accept.
Still, as long as you're satisfied with the NIST report, what questions can possibly remain?
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| Quote: | | Yes if I wanted to look if it collapsed from the top down - otherwise that central core would be sticking up in the air. |
Well that's exactly what happened - the cores were sticking up in the air - and now that you realise it you are all running around like cockroaches when the lights are turned on.
Yes, explain, EXPLAIN how an idiotic theory of explosive around the core in the basement would lead to a top down collapse with the core the last thing to fall. I'm not asking for calculations, just anything to justify why you would cling to such a moronic and contradictory theory in a desperate attempt to ignore what actual structural engineers say.
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| pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | Yes if I wanted to look if it collapsed from the top down - otherwise that central core would be sticking up in the air. |
Well that's exactly what happened - the cores were sticking up in the air - and now that you realise it you are all running around like cockroaches when the lights are turned on.
Yes, explain, EXPLAIN how an idiotic theory of explosive around the core in the basement would lead to a top down collapse with the core the last thing to fall. I'm not asking for calculations, just anything to justify why you would cling to such a moronic and contradictory theory in a desperate attempt to ignore what actual structural engineers say. |
Don't be so shy Pepik - why don't you enlighten as as to what all those "actual structural engineers" have said regarding this issue?
Or is that just more of your moronic and contradictory bluster?
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You want me to read the NIST report to you? Why don't you ask your babysitter to do it.
Meanwhile, I'll let KP50 explain his little theory.
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| pepik wrote: | You want me to read the NIST report to you? Why don't you ask your babysitter to do it.
Meanwhile, I'll let KP50 explain his little theory. |
Please don't sidestep and weasel out of answering the question Pepik - you were about to tell us what your alleged armies of structural engineers
say about the collapse of the core.
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