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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Army vs. Blair - 1600 troops home by April Reply with quote

British Prime Minister Tony Blair will announce Wednesday a timetable for withdrawing British troops from Iraq, British news outlets have reported. TV and newspaper reports say 1,500 soldiers will leave Iraq within weeks and that 3,000 of Britain's contingent of 7,000 will leave by the end of the year.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/20/uk.iraq.troops/index.htm l

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but leave to go where exactly? Iran?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe he's reassigning the SAS to Iran Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bliar's announcement comes 3 years and 11 months and 1 day after the invasion of Iraq. (3111)

1 month and 11 days after Bush announced his "troop surge" for Iraq.

19 weeks after Sir Richard Dannat's article "A Very Honest General" was published in the Daily Mail

and 1 month and 9 days after Bliar gave his response at HMS Albion

The Stop The War demonstration takes place this Saturday.

The Local Elections are on 3rd May

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Troop movements Reply with quote

Makes you wonder if Blair's moving the troops out of the way before an attack on Iran, so that they're not the first targets in the inevitable reprisals.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard on the radio news yesterday that the remaining British troops would be used to "protect the border with Iran."
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So 1600 are coming home and Harry Hewitt goes in the opposite direction.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed Rodin.

The very next day in fact.

And, the day that marks the 4th year, not the 4th anniversary, which is tomorrow, of the illegal invasion of Iraq.

In Through The Out Door.

And, recruitment to follow.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Army commanders wanted bigger and faster troop pullout Reply with quote

Army commanders wanted bigger and faster troop pullout
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2018287,00.html

Presence on Basra streets seen as doing more harm than good

Richard Norton-Taylor, Michael Howard in Baghdad, and Will Woodward
Thursday February 22, 2007
The Guardian


Military chiefs had been pushing for much bigger cuts in the number of British troops in Iraq than those announced yesterday by Tony Blair, defence officials made clear last night.

For months, army commanders have suggested that their presence on the streets of Basra was doing more harm than good, that it was time to lower expectations and let Iraqi forces take charge of security. They were forced to agree to a more gradual reduction partly in deference to US sensitivities. They also recognised the importance of "managing risk", a senior defence source said.

"You don't want them to have to go back in," he added.

Mr Blair confirmed yesterday that the number of British troops in southern Iraq, currently 7,100, would be reduced by 1,600 over the next few months, and by a further 500 by late summer. That would bring the number down to 5,000, with possible further cuts by the end of this year, he said. Military and defence officials make clear the aim is for all troops, bar a few instructors, to leave Iraq by the end of 2008.

It also emerged last night that troops from the Blues and Royals - including Prince Harry - would be deployed to Iraq this spring as part of a Household Cavalry detachment as 1 Mechanised Brigade replaces 19 Light Brigade, which is returning home after a six-month tour of duty. The extent of the prince's duties remains unclear, but he could be sent on frontline missions.

Mr Blair told MPs yesterday only that "the UK military presence will continue into 2008, for as long as we are wanted and have a job to do". He added: "Increasingly our role will be support and training, and our numbers will be able to reduce accordingly."

Jalal Talabani, Iraq's president, told the Guardian that while news of the withdrawal "had not come as a surprise to anyone", it was "a welcome catalyst for Iraqi security forces ... to stand on their own feet". Dick Cheney, the US vice-president, said the announcement was "an affirmation that in parts of Iraq ... things are going pretty well", while the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, was keen to stress "the coalition remains intact".

Basra's civic leaders and residents expressed relief at what they saw as the first step toward the end of the difficult British presence. Hakim al-Mayyahi, a member of Basra's provincial council, said Mr Blair's statement was overdue. "Lately, they [the British troops] were not helping the stability of the security situation in Basra," he said. "On the contrary, their constant conflicts with the anti-British groups here was simply contributing to a negative impact among the public."

Salam al-Maliki, a senior official in the bloc loyal to the Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, which has long opposed a foreign presence, said: "The militias and militant groups in these areas only fired their weapons at the occupier and when they go, all of the violence here will end."

Though some expressed trepidation at the potential negative consequences of a drawdown in British forces before their Iraqi counterparts were fully ready to take responsibility for security, one senior provincial official in Basra said: "If after four years they can't withdraw 1,600 troops without destabilising the situation, then God help us."

In the Commons, Mr Blair said an unconditional timetable for withdrawal "would be absolutely disastrous".

David Cameron, the Tory leader, supported the pullout, though he painted a less positive picture of the position in Basra, saying the security situation had "deteriorated dramatically over the last three years". Sir Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat leader, said: "The unpalatable truth is that we will leave behind a country on the brink of civil war, in which reconstruction has stalled and corruption is endemic".

Meanwhile the MoD said last night that a Royal Marine from 45 Commando was killed when he stepped on an anti-personnel mine in southern Afghanistan.


State of the coalition


Albania 120 non-combat troops, mainly patrolling airport in Mosul; no plans to withdraw


Armenia 46 soldiers, serving as medics, engineers and drivers under Polish command; staying to end of 2007


Australia Around 550 troops training security forces in southern Iraq


Azerbaijan 150 troops; no plans to withdraw


Bosnia-Herzegovina 36 soldiers


Bulgaria 155 in total 120 non-combat troops guarding refugee camp near Baghdad, 35 support personnel


Czech Republic 99 troops


Denmark 460 troops patrolling Basra; to be withdrawn by August


El Salvador 380 soldiers in Hillah; no immediate plans to withdraw


Estonia 35 troops under US command in the Baghdad area


Georgia 900 combat, medical and support personnel under US command in Baqouba; no plans to withdraw or reduce contingent


Kazakhstan 27 military engineers; no plans to withdraw


Latvia 125 troops under Polish command in Diwaniya


Lithuania 60 troops, part of a Danish battalion near Basra


Macedonia 40 troops in Taji


Moldova 11 bomb-defusing experts returned home at end of January


Mongolia 160 troops; no plans to withdraw


Netherlands 15 soldiers as part of Nato mission training police, army officers; no plans to withdraw


Poland 900 non-combat troops; commands multinational force; mission extended to end of 2007


Romania about 600 troops, most serving under UK command; prime minister Calin Popescu-Tariceanu wants them withdrawn


Slovenia 4 instructors training Iraqi security forces


South Korea 2,300 troops in Irbil; plans to bring home 1,100; parliament insists on complete withdrawal by end of 2007

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"HARRY HEWITT KILLED BY IRANIAN ANTI-TANK WEAPON SHOCKER!"

Sun headline: "DUKE NUKE 'EM!" etc.

Wouldn't be the first time a Prince has been used as a pretext?

Thought it was interesting the day after Blair announces iRak-1500 he announces Afghanistan+1000, guess the poppy fields need more cover in springtime...

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