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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1919 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: How to Spot COINTELPRO Agents |
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How to Spot COINTELPRO Agents
Long but worthwhile piece from Laura Knight Jadczyk. This
is just a small part of it:
How To Spot a Spy
One way to neutralize a potential activist is to get them to be in a group
that does all the wrong things. Why?
1) The message doesn't get out. 2) A lot of time is wasted 3) The activist
is frustrated and discouraged 4) Nothing good is accomplished.
FBI and Police Informers and Infiltrators will infest any group and they
have phoney activist organizations established.
Their purpose is to prevent any real movement for justice or eco-peace
from developing in this country.
Agents come in small, medium or large. They can be of any ethnic
background. They can be male or female.
The actual size of the group or movement being infiltrated is irrelevant.
It is the potential the movement has for becoming large which brings on
the spies and saboteurs.
This booklet lists tactics agents use to slow things down, foul things up,
destroy the movement and keep tabs on activists.
It is the agent's job to keep the activist from quitting such a group,
thus keeping him/her under control.
In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist:
"You're dividing the movement."
[Here, I have added the psychological reasons as to WHY this maneuver
works to control people]
This invites guilty feelings. Many people can be controlled by guilt. The
agents begin relationships with activists behind a well-developed mask of
"dedication to the cause." Because of their often declared
dedication, (and actions designed to prove this), when they criticize the
activist, he or she - being truly dedicated to the movement - becomes
convinced that somehow, any issues are THEIR fault. This is because a
truly dedicated person tends to believe that everyone has a conscience and
that nobody would dissimulate and lie like that "on purpose."
It's amazing how far agents can go in manipulating an activist because the
activist will constantly make excuses for the agent who regularly declares
their dedication to the cause. Even if they do, occasionally, suspect the
agent, they will pull the wool over their own eyes by rationalizing:
"they did that unconsciously... they didn't really mean it... I can
help them by being forgiving and accepting " and so on and so forth.
The agent will tell the activist:
"You're a leader!"
This is designed to enhance the activist's self-esteem. His or her
narcissistic admiration of his/her own activist/altruistic intentions
increase as he or she identifies with and consciously admires the
altruistic declarations of the agent which are deliberately set up to
mirror those of the activist.
This is "malignant pseudoidentification." It is the process by
which the agent consciously imitates or simulates a certain behavior to
foster the activist's identification with him/her, thus increasing the
activist's vulnerability to exploitation. The agent will simulate the more
subtle self-concepts of the activist.
Activists and those who have altruistic self-concepts are most vulnerable
to malignant pseudoidentification especially during work with the agent
when the interaction includes matter relating to their competency,
autonomy, or knowledge.
The goal of the agent is to increase the activist's general empathy for
the agent through pseudo-identification with the activist's self-concepts.
The most common example of this is the agent who will compliment the
activist for his competency or knowledge or value to the movement. On a
more subtle level, the agent will simulate affects and mannerisms of the
activist which promotes identification via mirroring and feelings of
"twinship". It is not unheard of for activists, enamored by the
perceived helpfulness and competence of a good agent, to find themselves
considering ethical violations and perhaps, even illegal behavior, in the
service of their agent/handler.
(snip)
The fact is, the movement doesn't need leaders, it needs MOVERS.
"Follow the leader" is a waste of time.
A good agent will want to meet as often as possible. He or she will talk a
lot and say little. One can expect an onslaught of long, unresolved
discussions.
Some agents take on a pushy, arrogant, or defensive manner:
1) To disrupt the agenda 2) To side-track the discussion 3) To interrupt
repeatedly 4) To feign ignorance 5) To make an unfounded accusation
against a person.
Calling someone a racist, for example. This tactic is used to discredit a
person in the eyes of all other group members.
Saboteurs
Some saboteurs pretend to be activists. She or he will ....
1) Write encyclopedic flyers (in the present day, websites) 2) Print
flyers in English only. 3) Have demonstrations in places where no one
cares. 4) Solicit funding from rich people instead of grass roots support
5) Display banners with too many words that are confusing. 6) Confuse
issues. 7) Make the wrong demands. 8) Compromise the goal. 9) Have endless
discussions that waste everyone's time. The agent may accompany the
endless discussions with drinking, pot smoking or other amusement to slow
down the activist's work.
Provocateurs
1) Want to establish "leaders" to set them up for a fall in
order to stop the movement. 2) Suggest doing foolish, illegal things to
get the activists in trouble. 3) Encourage militancy. 4) Want to taunt the
authorities. 5) Attempt to make the activist compromise their values. 6)
Attempt to instigate violence. Activisim ought to always be non-violent.
7) Attempt to provoke revolt among people who are ill-prepared to deal
with the reaction of the authorities to such violence.
Informants
1) Want everyone to sign up and sing in and sign everything. 2) Ask a lot
of questions (gathering data). 3) Want to know what events the activist is
planning to attend. 4) Attempt to make the activist defend him or herself
to identify his or her beliefs, goals, and level of committment.
Recruiting
Legitimate activists do not subject people to hours of persuasive dialog.
Their actions, beliefs, and goals speak for themselves.
Groups that DO recruit are missionaries, military, and fake political
parties or movements set up by agents.
Surveillance
ALWAYS assume that you are under surveillance.
At this point, if you are NOT under surveillance, you are not a very good
activist!
_________________ Andrew
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alkmyst Moderate Poster
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 177 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: Aggressive writing style is the first clue! |
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Originally posted in '911/ & Oil'
We have to learn how to sort the true from the false. .............a little hint from G. I. Gurdjieff:
Quote: | "A decent man will behave decently even if he thinks that he has been treated unjustly or wrongly. But many people in such circumstances show a side of their nature which otherwise they would never show. And at times it is a necessary means for exposing a man's nature. So long as you are good to a man he is good to you. But what will he be like if you scratch him a little?" |
When dealing with COINTELPRO, you don't even have to treat someone unjustly or wrongly, generally just disagreeing with them will do. Or doing something they don't want you to do. Just small "scratches" usually sort people out.
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James C Major Poster
Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1046
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Any paid or trained agent/activist is not going to crack under the normal modes of communication. Small scratches will do nothing, after all, the activist is there for a reason and nothing will compromise wanting to build a relationship with you. This is the same reasoning that peodophiles use when they spend hours, months and even years cementing the relationship with their victim before pouncing.
For all you know I could be such an activist. For all I know any of you could be one too. The thing is, we will never know and there is no way of checking.
Better off just sticking to the main argument of this website which can easily be proved. All else is just asking for trouble and is not provable. |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Wise words in deed James
Not that we shouldn't seek to learn from other campaigns and the tactics undoubtedly employed against them by cointelpro and to try to learn. But I agree the most effective response is rather than confronting those you disagree with or suspect of 'batting for the other side' and entering endless futile witch hunts then link up with those you do agree with and work together. |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1919 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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That's crack-on James. Good stuff. This was partly why I adopted the approach I did. I may be right, I may wrong but I had fun doing it - and will continue to do so - in the good company of people who make constructive points about the info and arguments presented here. _________________ Andrew
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Pikey Banned
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