Quick questionaire

[Skeptic]

A 'critic' has given the following set of questions to answer. I want to take my time with the response, avoiding speculation and questioning the assumptions behind the questions. Any input would be much appreciated.

Thanks




Who do you think did 9/11?

Where the planes hijacked? If yes by whom?

Was the plane that hit WTC 1 a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

Was the plane that hit WTC2 a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

Was the plane that hit the Pentagon hit by a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

Was the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

Who installed the explosives in the WTC?

Why would they bother with WTC7 when people only care about WTC 1 and 2?

If you are going to say the CIA office why not just shred the evidence instead of blowing up the building in front of billions?

Why did Silverman want a lower insurance policy?

Why would the bush administration blame Saudis and not Iraqi's?

Why would they go through all that * on 9/11 and not plant WMD's in Iraq?

Why would not 1 person involved in this conspiracy not come forward?

How did they hide all of the det cord?

Why would they use planes to hit the WTC's but use a missile to hit the Pentagon?

[andyb]

Who do you think did 9/11? Certainly not 19 islamic fundmentalists getting direction form KSM or OBL. A new investigation is required. Anything other than is speculation. You could mention rogue agents within the CIA/FBI as per Sibel Edmonds recent interviews. Also, the 9/11 Guilt DVD made good points re Rockerfeller and the insurance, arms and oil industries.

Where the planes hijacked? If yes by whom? Can't honestly say. Global Hawk could make remote control possible

Was the plane that hit WTC 1 a commercial plane? If not what hit it? Drawing you into speculation.


Was the plane that hit WTC2 a commercial plane? If not what hit it?
As above

Was the plane that hit the Pentagon hit by a commercial plane? If not what hit it? Point them towards Snowy's research adn the Pentacon info showing the conflicting data but what it was is speculating

Was the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania a commercial plane? If not what hit it? Again, Don't know

Who installed the explosives in the WTC?
Not surte, mention Scott Forbes and power downs though showing it was possible

Why would they bother with WTC7 when people only care about WTC 1 and 2?
Enron investigation, plus others we may not be aware of. Insurance


If you are going to say the CIA office why not just shred the evidence instead of blowing up the building in front of billions?

Wasn't in front of billions, barely gets a mention, most people don't know about it. Over 5 years NIST can't answer the questions. Outsourced the report now and will look at explosions as an hypothesis, although from memeory this is only from the 3rd floor up and therefore excluding the most liley area for explosives.

Why did Silverman want a lower insurance policy?
Where does this come form?

Why would the bush administration blame Saudis and not Iraqi's?
Saudi needs to be kept in check, yanks can say that if they don't continue cooperating they will publicly be blamed.

Why would they go through all that * on 9/11 and not plant WMD's in Iraq? WMD's and biological weapons are very traceable to where they are made. As per the anthrax in Us and pulonium with Litvenyenko

Why would not 1 person involved in this conspiracy not come forward?
Sibel Edmonds has stated she has names of other FBI agents who are willing to come forward. Those at the centre would not come out and compartmentalising would mean that very few would be involved in the whole plan. Even slightly involved is treason and the death penalty. We don't know perhaps people involved have been bumped off. Most likeley candidates coem from Intelligence or Military and trusted people would be used.

How did they hide all of the det cord? Remote control charges?

Why would they use planes to hit the WTC's but use a missile to hit the Pentagon?

Perhaps they were testing missiles on the new reinforced wall. Also not forgetting the civilian auditors who were looking into the missing trillions were located in this part. Speculation again of course

[Thermate]

Who do you think did 9/11?

Don't know, that is why we want a new full, independent and thorough investigation. There exists massive circumstantial evidence for the involvement of Bush administration insiders however.

Were the planes hijacked? If yes by whom?

Don't know, that is why we want a new full, independent and thorough investigation. There really is no hard proof either way at the moment. The technology, the means for remote control and even remote hijacking does exist, whether it was used we simply don't know.

Was the plane that hit WTC 1 a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

Eyewitness and video evidence suggests it was a big Boeing, until someone can produce photos clearly showing the passenger windows we can't be sure what type.

Was the plane that hit WTC2 a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

Eyewitness and video evidence suggests it was a big Boeing, until someone can produce photos clearly showing the passenger windows we can't be sure what type.

Was the plane that hit the Pentagon a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

Until the US government releases the clear video they MUST have of the event no one knows what hit the Pentagon. The fact they refuse to release that footage makes inquisitive minds wonder... As does the fact that, of the entire building, the Dept that got hit was the one investigating $2.3trillion of missing DoD funds. All records were sadly lost.


Was the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania a commercial plane? If not what hit it?

No way of knowing currently. New investigation required.

Who installed the explosives in the WTC?

Its been calculated that it could have been achieved by 2 teams of ~10men. Any small special/covert ops or mercenary team could have achieved it. The opportunity was there for the planting with the power downs for installing the "new network" in the preceding weeks. The building security company had Marvin Bush on its board, as did many of the airports involved.

How did they hide all of the det cord?

Det cord can look surprisingly similar to network cable, it even comes in cutesy pastel shades.

Why would they bother with WTC7 when people only care about WTC 1 and 2? If you are going to say the CIA office why not just shred the evidence instead of blowing up the building in front of billions?

True you could shred CIA files covertly, shredding the SEC cases against your NWO buddies in Enron/Worldcom etc is a little harder.

Why did Silverman want a lower insurance policy?

No idea, as a pre-emptive "It couldn't have been me, I wanted a lower one, honest!" ploy perhaps? Oh and where is your proof that he did? Lucky Larry told you did he?

Why would the bush administration blame Saudis and not Iraqi's?

They didn't have any Iraqi patsies? Don't forget they needed a pre-text to invade/overthrow/cast-in-the-black-hat Iraq/Iran/Syria and Jordan, they needed Muslim patsies, didn't matter from which state.

Why would they go through all that * on 9/11 and not plant WMD's in Iraq?

Well this is a good one, was an oversight for sure. Maybe it was the UN inspectors though? Just a thought.

Why would not 1 person involved in this conspiracy not come forward?

If you were doing an Operation like this would you a) use people that can't be trusted? b) use people that you haven't used on similar covert ops before and hence have prior "dirt" on? c) if you were someone who was involved, you know the people you did it for make the Mafia look like Disneyland? they'll kill you, your family, your grandparents ...and all their pets.

Why would they use planes to hit the WTC's but use a missile to hit the Pentagon?

Whose saying they used a missile? Wait, are you a conspiracy nut!??

[Craig W]

I'm not trying to cause trouble, but I was wondering isn't this putting the cart before the horse?

Shouldn't we be asking supporters of the OGCT what their evidence is and asking them to explain the ommissions and anomalies in the official version of events, rather than offering speculative and vague alternative theories?

I know we all have these alternative theories but should the focus not be on questioning the offical version of events?

For example, we can talk about it all we like but we will never be able to prove how the Towers collapsed without a full and proper independent inquiry. Speculating on possible methods of demolition is just that: speculation. What does it achieve?

The danger of this sort of exercise is that, if it is not done with total rigour and logic, the result may be poorly thought-through and easily torn apart. This would have the effect of making the official story seem more credible without it having been subjected to the same level of scrutiny.

I am not trying to be awkward and I hope I don't spoilt your thread, Skeptic. I just feel this sort of approach is not the best and is putting skeptics of the OGCT in the dock instead of the apologists for the official story.

[Skeptic]

Oh I completely understand, Craig.

This guy is playing the 'you still haven't answered my questions' tactic.

I just want to give fair answers (or attempts) to his questions before I give him my own questions.

Maybe this thread would be a good place to list some questions of our own?

Cheers

[blackcat]

We are the ones with the questions and they are the ones who are avoiding answering them. The Bush regime did not even want an enquiry and then served up the hogwash we eventually got. How should we know the answers to any of his questions. We need a proper investigation to find the answers. The only question he needs to ask is why they are so against a proper enquiry.

[Pikey]

Good post Craig W

[Bongo]

Here are the same questions I would put to the 'critic'...

Where is your proof Bin Laden did 9/11?

Where is your proof the planes were hijacked? and your proof of by whom?

Where is your proof that the plane that hit WTC 1 was flight 11?

Where is your proof that the plane that hit WTC 2 was flight 175?

Where is your proof that the plane that hit the Pentagon was flight 77?

Where is your proof that flight 93 crashed in Pensilvania?

Who installed the explosives in the WTC? If you suggest they did not, how did the buildings fall in freefall time?

Why did WTC7 collapse? and where is the proof of your answer?

Why do the government deny controlled demolition when Silverstein admitted to 'pulling the building' and the BBC also seem to have known in advance of this happening and there is a multitude videos and reports of 'bombs going off'?

Why would the bush administration blame Saudis and not Iraqi's? I will answer this one... because Afghanistan was the prime target at that time with the oil pipeline from the caspian basin requiring to be built. Iraq was a secondary target, no doubt with Iran next.

Why would they go through all that * on 9/11 and not plant WMD's in Iraq? Possibly because the US government had the IAEA all over them. Any attempt to have planted WMD's would likely have been quickly discovered by the international weapons inspectors of the IAEA.

Why are whistleblowers coming forward all the time, only to be placed under gagging orders (Cynthia McKinney for one) and also ignored by the mainstream press?

How did they hide all of the det cord? Where is your proof that the buildings collapsed due to aircraft hits and fires?

Why would they use planes to hit the WTC's but use a missile to hit the Pentagon? As above, where is your proof that flight 77 hit the pentagon?