Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: Calum Douglas - Ipswich - now on google video
Well done Mark_e for getting this edited and up on the web so swiftly. Thank you. Special thanks to Calum. If you ain't booked him for your truth event yet, ask yourself why not? Calum Douglas is yet another notable voice playing the chords of truth.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject:
Great talk that covers all the conflicts in the Pentagon evidence very clearly.
The only suggestion I'd offer to improve the pace slightly is to take screenshots of the relevant parts of the .fdr file for when needed; either that or bring on a lovely assistant and do a couple of quick card tricks while waiting for that bleedin' great file to open ....
Also the video was well done and better quality than most. Those chart figures on the screen were easy to read and well focused. And we could hear the questions from the audience clearly for a change, which seems to be a problem with videos of other events.
Well worth catching, to anyone wondering whether to watch it. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject:
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject:
Excellent.
Well done to everyone involved in putting this fascinating video together.
Concise and to the point.
I will certainly be recommending this to people as essential viewing from now on.
I wonder what the critics of the Truth movement make of this video.
As Calum points out...although there are no definate answers there is certainly proof that the official CT is very flawed. _________________ It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:00 am Post subject:
really good.
presents an air tight case.. sticks to the evidence. can't see how the 'myth debunkers'/critics can dismiss evidence like this presented in such a fair and balanced way. _________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"
it was a good watch, and was impressed with the way it was pointed out that it proved "something" is going of and we are being lied to because all the information cannot be right.
i think it is important to point that out and leave the conclusion to the watcher/attendee, this way you get people to ask the questions and you come across as just wanting to know the truth and the fact something is going of and we have been lied to cannot even be challeged or denied going by the evidence. its also a lot less shocking when informing someone for the first time, it breaks them in gently and gets them to look at it themselves and dont feel violated by someone giving them a conclusion as they are left to come to it themselves but the importance of the subject is made obvious just by saying that either way something major is going of.
waffle, waffle.
sorry if it is, but i feel its better to say than pouncing on someone and screaming 9/11 was a inside job, the sooner people realise this subject is of great importance because it proves beyond doubt something is going of the more people will ask questions and see your not a nutter but just concerned about the information we have been given by the offical version etc, leaving the conclusion for the consumer of your information.
great talk anyway and i didnt realise what you had to go through to get this information together, great work.
Ta for the feedback all,
Again I need feedback of all sorts especially any negative.
Finding flaws or discovering possible improvements are much more important to me than anything else if I`m to improve and progress my work.
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A nice calm, non-dramatic, methodical presentation of the "facts" and conflicting versions of events surrounding Flight 77 and the Pentagon on 911.
I will recommend it to others.
I haven't anything negative to say so cannot help you improve. _________________ "Nothing can trouble you but your own imagination." ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
I don't ever recall in media reports that the Flight 77 Black box was ever officially recovered.
In the animation, the flight time is after midday but it official crashed at 9:40-ish
Don't they use GMT (4 hours later than Arlington time)?
Another question for Calum: How accurate is the navigation system recording the position of the plane? I'm assuming it is GPS and accurate to within a few metres.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:
In the video he says the GPS is unreliabe because it's controlled by the military and can be manipulated. If I remember correctly he said the one to be trusted is the beacon from the airport? I could be wrong... _________________
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That is correct about the beacon. Its called VOR which is
"VHF Omnidirectional Rangefinding", at Regan its a transmitter operating at 110MHz.
Its read by the planes DME system (Distance Measuring Equiptment).
The lat/long co-oridnates are SUPPOSED to be accurate to within a few feet.....
However at takeoff the co-ordinates show the plane about 800meters south of a runway so there you go!!! _________________ The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist
** Where is that fella who said he would be at this presentation to prove the FDR data etc... was incorrect, false, made up....? From Sheffield he is... cannot remember his user name though..
He did not turn up as he said he would, so I guess he is kinda debunked off the face of the earth.
Suddenly remembered his user name here: jackchit. Well, after his keyboard warriorisms, where are you jackchit? been laying alot of eggs lately or someone eat you for sunday lunch? _________________ The most transparent of all materials on this Earth is a politician.
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Its just map shift.
Happens quite freuently, the path is correct just offset south over the whole flight.
When you move it up 800m it all aligns perfectly. Thus the need for VOR beacon readings (which we have at several points in the flight) so as to fix positions correctly.
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Good presentation, maybe work some of the Q&A topics into the main chat? Like the $2.3trillion... if it can be confirmed that department was hit it provides a very strong possible motive, obviously. _________________ Make love, not money.
Excellent stuff SG, and a nice introduction as well from whoever that was.
Once thing I'd ask you to clarify- at the (also excellent) East London talk I thought you had said the FOIA requests you and johndoex respectivley got data from related to different flight recorders- the black box and the standard one.
Recent utterings and this film suggest they are both from the same sole FDR- but one was a simplified version expressed as a sim and the later one was the complete set of data.
Which is right? Is this all from the same source, or were they from two recorders? _________________
"Excellent stuff SG, and a nice introduction as well from whoever that was.''
That, was Light Infantree, aka Carl James Friar 13th Battalion Truth Corps. Thanks Stefan. _________________ It's not about terror, its about illusion. It's not about war, it's about you
Stop worrying, take risks
Be brave
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I have taken account of the comments on here and re-rendered the video, removing the document loading delay and generally cleaning it up a bit. is it worth me uploading V2 to google video as the original is now widely distributed?
Stefan,
There is only one data recorder (well two if you include the cockpit voice recoreder but thats a separate issus).
The black box is the flight data recorder. The "animation" is simply a visualisation of the raw data.
PFT/JDX and myself are all using/looking at the same set of data figures.
C.
Why do you think the FDR data terminates a second before impact at the Pentagon? To hide the fact that the black box did not come from what crashed into the Pentagon but from the plane seen by the two police officers filling up their cars with gas at the Citgo gas station and which flew OVER the Pentagon? Also, why would the .csv file have been manipulated to indicate a south approach path
http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=5083
if it had actually come from this direction to crash into the Pentagon? Does this not clearly indicate either:
1. the whole file is fabricated (but why then stop the data one second before impact? This argues against the possibility)
or
2. the data comes from the plane that flew over the Pentagon and which was seen by the policemen, requiring flight data to be manipulated in order to indicate a pre-arranged south route and the so-called 'last second' of data to be removed so that no one would discover that this section of the data showed the plane was flying too high to hit the Pentagon and had a different flight direction? Only they got sloppy with manipulating the data that led up to the alleged crash, so that it showed the plane was too high, anyway.
The Pentagon Flight 77 story is going to run and run.
For a start, just think of all those eye witnesses that must be out there that haven't been interviewed in detail. That could help to piece together the true flight path, which appears to be one different from the 9/11 Commission's version.
"I was in the naval annexe and I saw it out of the window."
"Which window? Which side?"
Then there are the videos that the FBI have which might be illuminating.
Where are they keeping all of the supposed parts of Flight 77?
Very interestings question... they made claims that there were evidence of the wreckage... well show us it then, let an independent body as per usual investigate it like a normal air crash investigation.
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