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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: Press Release: NIST Accused of Fraud and Deception |
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http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/070322_PR.html
REQUESTS FOR CORRECTION OF NIST REPORT ON DESTRUCTION OF WORLD TRADE CENTER FILED
FRAUD AND DECEPTION CITED AS REASONS FOR CORRECTION REQUEST
March 22, 2007
CONTACT: Dr. Judy Wood or Attorney Jerry Leaphart 203-825-6265
For Immediate Release:
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Basic Facts:
A Request for Correction (RFC) submitted under the Data Quality Act (DQA) was filed with National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on March 16, 2007
NIST acknowledged receipt of RFC in writing on March 19, 2007, via its Acting Chief of Management and Organization Division, Stephen Willett.
RFC challenges the integrity of NIST document NCSTAR 1 (National Construction Safety Team Advisory Committee), Report on the Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers, issued in September 2005
See www.wtc.nist.gov
A full copy of the RFC filed by DR. Wood can be viewed at
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/NIST_RFC.html
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Dr. Judy Wood (with degrees in Civil Engineering, Engineering Mechanics, and Materials Engineering Science), widely acknowledged as the leading proponent of the theory that Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) were used to destroy the World Trade Center (WTC) complex, has filed a Request for Correction under the Data Quality Act with the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), located in Gaithersburg, MD.
Dr. Wood is represented in this effort by Attorney Jerry Leaphart, a Connecticut-based trial lawyer, who states that NIST now has 60 days to respond to the RFC. After that, an appeal can be taken and/or other legal action may then follow.
Leaphart further states that Dr. Wood knows that the implications of her theory that DEW were used to destroy the WTC complex shatter certain key beliefs that Americans as a whole cherish and hold dear. Her theory has generated a lot of interest and commentary within the 9/11 Truth Movement that relies primarily upon the Internet as its media source. Mainstream print and broadcast media do not cover the 9/11 Truth Movement, but may need to take heed of this administrative action filed by Dr. Wood, according to Attorney Leaphart.
Leaphart said that to his knowledge, only three RFCs concerning NIST's WTC report have been filed to date. One by Dr. Morgan Reynolds, another by Edward F. Haas and the one filed by Dr. Wood. All three are currently pending.
The 43 page RFC filed by Wood asserts that the basic integrity of NCSTAR 1 is lacking because, by its own admission, it did not investigate the actual destruction of the World Trade Center Towers.
NCSTAR 1 admits:
"The focus of the investigation was on the sequence of events from the instance of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the "probable collapse sequence," although it does not actually include the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable." [See NCSTAR 1, pgs xxxvii, footnote 2 and/or 82, footnote 13]
E.1 Genesis of this investigation
p. xxxv-xxxvi (pp. 37-38): "The specific objectives were:
1. Determine why and how WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed following the initial impacts of the aircraft and why and how WTC 7 collapsed; ..."
E.2 Approach
p. xxxvii (p. 39) footnote2 "The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the probable collapse sequence," although it includes little analysis of the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable.
Thus, to this day, Americans have not been given any explanation whatsoever for the destruction of the WTC complex that comports with information and quality standards.
In contrast, Dr. Wood's RFC contains a stunning array of visual evidence confirming highly unusual energy effects seen by all as the twin towers were almost instantaneously destroyed in less time than it would take a billiard ball to hit the ground if dropped from the height of the twin towers.
That fact is assessed on the basis of the two other laws of physics in Wood's RFC, thus confirming its scientific rigor. Wood also points to other compelling evidence that NIST ignored. Wood's RFC shows visual evidence of unusual and unexplained blast effects on vehicles parked blocks away from the complex. Wood also demonstrates unexplained visual damage in the form of perpendicular gouges in WTC 3, and WTC 4,5,6 and the near disappearance of WTC 3, all of which remain unexplained by NIST to this day. Wood goes further and points out that the incredible amount of dust resulting from the visible process of steel disintegrating before our very eyes all point to the use of directed energy weapons. One other element of Wood's proof is the almost complete lack of even a rubble pile at the WTC complex. Wood asks: Where did it go?
Added to all of that is the fact that whatever the energy and heat source was, it had no effect upon paper that was seen floating everywhere and not burning very much, if at all.
Dr. Wood's RFC demonstrates all of the above mentioned effects in its 43 pages of text and pictorial proof. The combined effects of gravity, jet fuel (a form of kerosene) and plane damage could not possibly have caused the massive destruction that occurred on September 11, 2001, in New York City, according to Dr. Wood. The wonder of it all is that more engineers and scientists have not come forward to challenge the woeful, scientific inadequacies of the official explanation.
Dr. Wood invites her peers and colleagues to set aside their emotional attachments and to view the evidence objectively. Then and only then can America come to grips with what happened on 9/11/01, according to Dr. Wood. _________________ Andrew
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bigyin Minor Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Fantastic is all I can say !
Has anything like this happened before ? |
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Andrew, surely this should be in Controversial. _________________ "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.” Martin Luther King |
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Thermate Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Press Release: NIST Accused of Fraud and Deception |
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Andrew Johnson wrote: | A Request for Correction (RFC) submitted under the Data Quality Act (DQA) was filed with National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) |
Looks like a good route to pursue, shame its an Orbital Bean Weapon 'conspiraloon' that's doing it. May well lead to this avenue being closed, but then again, maybe that's the plan eh? _________________ Make love, not money. |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Apart from Bigyin, predictable responses here.
Looks like we have some campaigners actually doing something. Jerry Leaphart has actually found a law and started a challenge.
Why didn't Floum and Jones do this with their work? (They still can, of course.) I wonder if the reason they haven't is that they aren't confident, unlike Prof Wood, that they can prove what they say is correct?
No, this is news - not controversial. It's a press release - what's controversial about that?
You can ignore it if you want. _________________ Andrew
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry but anything with Judy Wood's in the name is going to be controversial, no matter how much you've laised with her Andrew. I am of the belief that this is going to be as useful as CB_Brooklyns 16000 emails.
I don't see why they are fighting about the how when surely just proving that is scientifically impossible for the towers to collapse as per NIST/FEMA etc?? _________________ "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.” Martin Luther King |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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andyb wrote: |
I don't see why they are fighting about the how when surely just proving that is scientifically impossible for the towers to collapse as per NIST/FEMA etc?? |
This is the key issue. It's one thing to prove NIST wrong, it's another to offer a robust alternative explanation.
As you will appreciate, Prof Wood has a degree in mechanical engineering. I think it is likely she knows more about the subject than you (or me).
Additionally, Prof Reynolds was formerly a director of the Criminal Justice Center - I feel we have a good team of people working on this.
Again, where's Jones? He can make his own submission and it doesn't have to be a fight. I have politely asked him to answer Judy's points and he has not chosen to do so. I have drawn one conclusion from that, you are quite free to draw a different one. (This is one of the benefits of having an amorphous campaign). _________________ Andrew
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Irrespective, this should be in the 9/11 controversies section. If moderators don't comply then what chance have we got.
Also, why do we have to supply alternative hypothesis? all this makes us do is speculate and argue. There is already enough there for us to demand a new investigation. _________________ "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.” Martin Luther King |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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andyb wrote: | Irrespective, this should be in the 9/11 controversies section. If moderators don't comply then what chance have we got.
Also, why do we have to supply alternative hypothesis? all this makes us do is speculate and argue. There is already enough there for us to demand a new investigation. |
So, you wish, in one sense, to suppress the news of a legal challenge to NIST? Because you don't agree with the basis on which it has been made?
I am not absolutely clear about the detailed legal basis in use here, but in this particular case, I think a Request for Correction has to point out errors and how they should be corrected. _________________ Andrew
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Bongo 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree fully with AndyB, Judy Wood's challenge to NIST on the mandate of 'laser beam weapons' will be thrown out purely on the basis of it's rediculous speculation. This will also have the effect of permenantly sealing this avenue of attack to the majority of us within the truth movement who might have used this legal avenue to achieve more reasonable outcomes.
It would appear that Judy Wood is effectively pre-empting failure. I would bet the Neo-Cons are rubbing their hands with glee while looking forward to this 'Dis-information' spectacle. When it fails, they will be provided with more ammunition to acclaim "Look at the stupid conspiracy loons... See, told you we were right about them."
Personally (Only my opinion btw), Laser beams, NPT and all these other gems of disinformation are, as Alex Jones quite regularly points out, invented and intended to distract and discredit the truth movement. It is vitally important that the movement dis-associates itself with the perpetrators of this lies.
Quote: | Irrespective, this should be in the 9/11 controversies section. If moderators don't comply then what chance have we got. |
I second the motion. |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Bongo wrote: | I have to agree fully with AndyB, Judy Wood's challenge to NIST on the mandate of 'laser beam weapons' will be thrown out purely on the basis of it's rediculous speculation. |
Oh - do you know someone in NIST then? Have you reviewed the evidence carefully? What related discipline are you qualified in that makes your knowledge or opinion more significant than Prof's Wood and Reynolds?
DId you listen to the audio I repeatedly reference NOT Wood or Reyonolds - a chap called Douglas Beason of LANL speaking about WORKING beam weapon technology?
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=6055
Interesting how there were no replies on that thread.... _________________ Andrew
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Thermate Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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if steven jones thermate/thermite ideas are classed as "controversial", as they are according to ian neal (at a johnson's suggestion i'll wager ), then i'm damn sure 40+ pages of orbital bean weapon guesswork does too.
what is this guy still doing moderating this site, its a disgrace. _________________ Make love, not money. |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thermate wrote: | are according to ian neal (at a johnson's suggestion i'll wager ), then i'm damn sure 40+ pages of orbital bean weapon guesswork does too. |
Do you have any evidence on which to base your wager? If so, you are likley to lose your bet. Ian has his own views on this, I am sure. And how can you describe Beason's discussion of Working Beam Weapons as guess work.
Oops - looks like the debunking brigade are out in force - again.... See here folks...
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7006 _________________ Andrew
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Thermate Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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oh i need evidence do i? just like with shill allegations? if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, but i have no evidence it's a duck i must keep my mouth shut right? _________________ Make love, not money. |
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Bongo is correct AJ, Stephen Jone's theories are also confined to the controversies section. As a mod you are abusing your priveleges. Tony G did the same with his Holocaust post last night. It is very clear on each section what goes where. _________________ "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.” Martin Luther King |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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andyb wrote: | Bongo is correct AJ, Stephen Jone's theories are also confined to the controversies section. As a mod you are abusing your priveleges. Tony G did the same with his Holocaust post last night. It is very clear on each section what goes where. |
Thanks for the support Andy. Nice to know you are focused on the real issues here. As I said, this is a press release - a news story with a legal foundation. I don't understand why, as a truthseeker, you have seem to a have desire to marginalise it or suppress it.
As you will be aware, when I posted my previous article re Dr Greg Jenkins, I moved it at your suggestion. I disagree with you on this one, for the reasons given above. It is therefore not an abuse of priviliege - in any case, moderating is a voluntary activity and the only thing I am really doing now is filtering porn/pharma/loan spammers - that's a privilege is it? Right. _________________ Andrew
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thermate wrote: | oh i need evidence do i? just like with shill allegations? if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, but i have no evidence it's a duck i must keep my mouth shut right? |
Good of you to trivialise the issue.... _________________ Andrew
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Skeptic wrote: | Is there any way we could produce our own challenge, which isn't based on speculative theory?
Or would we have to be US citizens? |
Overlooking the idea of evidence and conclusions versus "speculative theory", how about asking Steve Jones - he should care. Here's an address:
hardevidence@gmail.com
He's a Physiscist.
Other than that, try to qualify as a scientist or structural engineer and apply for US citizenship - that should be a start! _________________ Andrew
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Thermate Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Andrew Johnson wrote: | Nice to know you are focused on the real issues here. |
The real issue in this thread is YOU abusing your mod privileges to pimp your pet theory, which most definitely belongs in the controversies section because unlike thermite/ate, you don't have any proof whatsoever that a weapon exists capable of invisibly causing the damage seen on 9/11. And the followers of "The Cult of Judy" number about 1% of this forum as you well know... _________________ Make love, not money. |
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Bongo 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Thermate... Beam weapons and NPT etc are 'Dis-info' stories put out with a view to damaging the '9/11 Truth movement'.
It is a standard propaganda tactic used by the guilty to muddy the waters and distract from the truth.
The same cannot be said for Steven E Jones, who has provided a hypothesis with a detailed scientific study, culminating in a paper which he offers up to be tested. That is good and professional scientific practice. |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Bongo wrote: | I have to agree with Thermate... Beam weapons and NPT etc are 'Dis-info' stories put out with a view to damaging the '9/11 Truth movement'.
It is a standard propaganda tactic used by the guilty to muddy the waters and distract from the truth.
The same cannot be said for Steven E Jones, who has provided a hypothesis with a detailed scientific study, culminating in a paper which he offers up to be tested. That is good and professional scientific practice. |
So, I take you read the linked ("Hijackers") article and checked all the evidence. Douglas Beason...?
Can you state why "Beam Weapons" are disinfo more specifically and how, again specifically "the movement" is being damaged? If there was no talk of these subjects, do you think the average person would have a clearer view of 9/11? Would they care any more?
If they are disinfo, then I presume you can explain:
Amount of dust
Lack a flooding of lower manhattan due to bathtub being intact
Lack of rubble/debris from WTC
Time of destruction
Spire
etc etc
BTW - Can you list the peer reviewed journals were Jones' work has been published? Some of his paper may be valid, but he refuses to try and explain all of the evidence (indeed, he even denies some of it existed, such as the level of pulverisation). That's good science, yeah? (See "Hijackers" article) _________________ Andrew
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I'd just like to add my voice to those that would like to see material relating to the idea that invisible beam weapons were used on 9/11, be they press releases or any other kind of material, moved to the controversies section. Thanks. |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thermate wrote: | The real issue in this thread is YOU abusing your mod privileges to pimp your pet theory, which most definitely belongs in the controversies section because unlike thermite/ate, you don't have any proof whatsoever that a weapon exists capable of invisibly causing the damage seen on 9/11. And the followers of "The Cult of Judy" number about 1% of this forum as you well know... |
Right, right. Of course - yeah. Here's the moderation I have the "privilege of doing". I have to check 5 or 10 of these a day to keep the forum spammer-free (OK, OK so JHR checks some - sometimes):
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And, is it not true, that as a group of people who reject the OCT of 9/11 as false, we are in a minority, so by your logic above, we must be wasting our time with "outlandish theories based on no evidence". Right?
Why are you switching from the evidence and data and more serious points to criticising a moderator? You have managed to post your views OK - looks like fair moderation to me, n'est ce pas?
Since when has study of evidence and presentation of it been a "cult"? I think Judy's conclusions about the evidence are probably correct - they might not be - it's the best explanation of the evidence I have yet seen. That's all. Why are you so (apparently) upset?
I have made posts re legal challenges to NIST from well qualified people (2 professors, a lawyer and an investigative writer) perhaps you should examine the reasons why you seem to be objecting to this (as should any reader of this thread). _________________ Andrew
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
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jomper wrote: | I'd just like to add my voice to those that would like to see material relating to the idea that invisible beam weapons were used on 9/11, be they press releases or any other kind of material, moved to the controversies section. Thanks. |
Noted - especially the polite and relatively neutral tone of your post. _________________ Andrew
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brian Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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From the Woods letter -
"Leaphart further states that Dr. Wood knows that the implications of her theory that DEW were used to destroy the WTC complex shatter certain key beliefs that Americans as a whole cherish and hold dear."
What a ridiculous statement - what beliefs are we supposed to believe are are cherished? That their Govt would only blow the towers up but never use space beams?
WE KNOW AND CAN PROVE USING THE WORK OF JONES ET AL THE OFFICIAL EXPLANATION IS A LIE -
For those that still believe otherwise that proof alone should shatter any cherished in that respect. No need to also stretch their credulity to breaking point at the same time.
This is a joke and if Judy Woods did not appear to an out and out headbanger I would have no doubt this was deliberately destructive.
Whatever destructive is what it is. Read the rest of it -
".. a stunning array of visual evidence confirming highly unusual energy effects.."
Yes, and we have a hundred plus witnesses telling us of explosions.
"..incredible amount of dust resulting from the visible process of steel disintegrating before our very eyes ."
Out on a limb.
"...Added to all of that is the fact that whatever the energy and heat source was, it had no effect upon paper that was seen floating everywhere and not burning very much, if at all."
"..whatever the energy and heat source was.."
Now its whatever.
Is there not a bin - let alone contraversies section? |
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jomper wrote: | I'd just like to add my voice to those that would like to see material relating to the idea that invisible beam weapons were used on 9/11, be they press releases or any other kind of material, moved to the controversies section. Thanks. |
Me too.
No disrepect intended to Andrew J but this is a controversial and divisive issue. Many of us feel it is not helpful to the movement and as such I think it should be in "controversies".
That said, I am very grateful to Andrew for bringing this interesting legal move to our attention. _________________ "Nothing can trouble you but your own imagination." ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
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The only reason this becomes 'controversial' is because a certain section start jumping up and down and shouting in response to the concept. I can't possibly comment on the mathematical equations that Dr Wood presents, but the rest of the evidence is excellent and I'm quite happy she should be making this submission,as I think others should be that she's doing this.
I find it quite extraordinary that someone should use the term 'conspiraloon' against Wood, when that is precisely the term of abuse used by those against the movement as a whole, ie those who just don't or won't get it. Perhaps this is just another level down.
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: We should all support Judy Wood |
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Whther or not her theories turn out to be true ( I happen to find the evidence very compelling) this legal challenge is a milestone in the history of the 911 Truth movement and is of greater significance than the issue of DEWs alone , which is admittedly controversial,
As indeed was controlled demolition until quite recently. |
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Andrew Johnson wrote: | Skeptic wrote: | Is there any way we could produce our own challenge, which isn't based on speculative theory?
Or would we have to be US citizens? |
Overlooking the idea of evidence and conclusions versus "speculative theory", how about asking Steve Jones - he should care. Here's an address:
hardevidence@gmail.com
He's a Physiscist.
Other than that, try to qualify as a scientist or structural engineer and apply for US citizenship - that should be a start! |
I wasn't endorsing Jones' theory either.
I'm simply trying to make the point that it might be possible to take the same course of legal action simply by showing the NIST report to be flawed.
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