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Mark Cuban undermining 9/11 Truth?

 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Mark Cuban undermining 9/11 Truth? Reply with quote

To add insult to injury, 2 truthers on myspace linking to this have the bulletins frozen/unviewable yet all others work fine!!*

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911 TRUTH UNDER ATTACK ON YOUTUBE BY MARK CUBAN
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Date: Apr 7, 2007 5:09 PM


Magnolia Pictures sends DMCA subpoena to Google, YouTube
March 7, 2007 12:58 PM PST
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Once again, copyright holders are trying to unmask who uploaded a potentially infringing video clip to YouTube.

This time it's Magnolia Pictures, a film distributor owned by Mark Cuban and Todd Wagner, the billionaire co-founders of Broadcast.com. Magnolia released the Academy Award-nominated documentary Enron: Smartest Guys in the Room, which has a bad habit of appearing on video-sharing sites.

Hence the subpoena to Google, which a federal court in Texas issued on Tuesday. It asks for information on how to identify the person who uploaded three videos (two on Google Video and one on YouTube).

On YouTube, at least, the username of the uploader is "halifaxion," who seems to focus on uploading video clips airing alternative explanations of what happened to the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

Once Magnolia is given the information that Google possesses about "halifaxion" (and it almost certainly will), the movie distributor will have the option of filing a lawsuit against that person.

As a side note, it's possible that some video-sharing sites might not keep records of users' Internet addresses. One video upload happened on October 19, 2006, and some sites could discard the address information after three months or so. A proposal from the U.S. Justice Department would change those data retention requirements and force Web sites to keep upload data for two years. The ostensible purpose is to fight terrorism and child pornography and all that, of course, but a side benefit would be to help copyright holders track infringements.

This isn't the first time that Google has been hit by a subpoena invoking the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which permits copyright holders to find out the identities of infringers without filing a lawsuit. American Airlines sent a DMCA subpoena to Google and YouTube a year ago. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////  //////////////////////////WHY DID HE BUY LOOSE CHANGE.I WAS HAPPY WHEN I FIRST HEARD HE WAS GUNNA PUT IT OUT,BUT THEN I SEE THIS..."halifaxion," account is gone grom youtube..and will prob be sued by marks co. whats going on here?? another great artikilll //////I was recently elated to hear the news that Charlie Sheen was going to do the narration of Loose Change Final Cut and Mark Cuban was offering to bankroll the popular 9/11 movie through his distribution company Magnolia Pictures.

Well, my grandeur was cut short when I remembered a recent incident that just happed within the past month. It involves, Mark Cuban, a You Tuber called Halifaxion, and the complete culling of massive amounts of 9/11 truth videos.

First, let me first explain just who Halifaxion was and what roll he played. Halifaxion was the biggest 9/11 truth activist on You Tube. Over the past few years, Halifaxion managed in collecting a huge plethora of almost 200 incriminating video clips including news broadcasts, interviews, and clips from various documentaries. There were hundreds of thousand of web sites linking to Halifaxion's videos. He also had accounts on both Google Video and iFilms where he offered his alternative theories about 9/11.

Here is where everything takes a turn for the weird.

On March 7th, 2007, Mark Cuban's company Magnolia Pictures decided to single out the user Halifaxion by sending a DMCA subpoena to Google and You Tube to identify the user. Halifaxion had uploaded a ten minute clip from a Magnolia Pictures distributed movie called "Enron, Smartest guys in the room".

Within a week, Halifaxion was nowhere to be found. His accounts on You Tube, Google, and iFilms all have been closed and all his 9/11 truth videos deleted. This was a massive removal of 9/11 truth videos that could not be more significant. There were hundreds of thousand of web sites worldwide with links to his videos that all lie dead now.

Then to add insult to injury, after listening to the interview between Bill O'Reilly and Mark Cuban, I was only left with more questions. There were some very interesting quotes made by Mark Cuban that leave a lot to be desired. For instance, in Mark's opening statement he said;

"One of the reasons why we decided to distribute it, because on the Internet, and even offline there is kind of this discussion about Loose Change that has taken on mythic proportions, and I just happen to believe that propaganda in the shadows is far more dangerous than propaganda out front"

Then he goes on to state that;

"I just think that far more damage can be done when you can't confront, and you can't identify the people that are crazy" and "Unless you confront the proof and show just how crazy it is"

But I think the final blow to his credibility might have come with this statement;

"We are basically going to make it available on DVD, potentially"

What is this "Potentially" stuff? How many movies do you know that DON'T go to DVD? The worse a movie is, the quicker it goes to DVD. Some movies are so bad, they go straight to DVD. Why would Loose Change Final Cut be a "Potential" DVD candidate?

After hearing the interview I personally was left with a bad taste in my mouth. It seemed to me, but this is just my opinion, but it seemed to me that the event might have been staged. Let me explain why.

For one, Bill O'Reilly never once tried to get Mark Cuban to offer his opinion about 9/11 and what his beliefs were about that day. That is very very unusual for Bill O'Reilly to not try and back someone in a corner and get them to take sides. Bill O'Reilly never once even came close to asking Mark anything about 9/11. It all seemed carefully orchestrated to not offend the 9/11 truth movement, at the same time never taking a stance.

You may ask, why would I question Mark Cuban's motives, he is helping the 9/11 truth movement by distribution Loose Change Final Cut? Well, you have to understand that Mark Cuban can also position himself to be the biggest problem for Loose Change Final Cut. Here is how he can ruin the distribution of Loose Change Final Cut legally.

You already know he was quoted as saying "available on DVD potentially". Well, the key word is potentially. He never committed to bringing out a DVD. Another problem is that once Loose Change Final Cut becomes property of Magnolia Pictures, he will most likely have all copies removed from the Internet. He could end up showing it in very few theaters nationwide and limit the DVD sales and production. He could tie it up in a long legal battle that could drag on for years.

The music business does this all the time. When a band that shows potential and is in direct conflict with a band owned by a recording label, it is not uncommon for that recording label to try to get that band under contract so they can limit their access to the world thus beating the competition by buying it off. The same concept as the big oil companies buying up patents to alternative fuels to limit their ability to be successful.

That would not even be a worse case situation. If he decided to be shrewd, he could wait until several hundred 9/11 truth activists upload small clips of Loose Change, and combined with the hundreds of other 9/11 truthers who already have Loose Change Second Edition clips uploaded to You Tube and Google, he could literally cull about one half of the 9/11 truth videos offered on You Tube and Google.

The policy of You Tube is to close the account of a person in question and remove their videos no questions asked. If there was a blanket subpoena sent to You Tube to remove all Magnolia Pictures clips, it could result in the closing of hundreds of You Tube accounts and the removal of thousands of 9/11 video clips. It would leave millions and millions of web sites worldwide with "Dead Links", thus purging You Tube and Google of massive amounts of 9/11 related information and rendering a multitude of web sites with lost content.

One thing I have to ask myself is this-- does mark Cuban stand to make money or lose money if 9/11 truth comes out?

If the stock market crashes, he would stand to lose millions and millions of dollars. If everyone is worrying about "False Flag" terror, not many people would be watching his HDTV. There will be less people going to basketball games if they are worried about surviving.

The question in all this is: Was Mark Cuban directly responsible for the banishment of Halifaxion from You Tube? Why was Halifaxion singled out? More importantly, if he was, was it a deliberate attempt to dismantle the 911 Truth Movement?

And the most important question of all-- what are Mark Cuban's plans for Loose Change Final Cut

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt get too worried,
Mark Cuban didnt become a billionaire by being "nice"; nobody does.

If he`s offering to bankroll a new version of the most downloaded film ever its quite probably an attempt by him to maximise his profits by ensuring there is a precedent for making downloading one of his films illegal.

I would imagine he`s rather worried about a film he finances turning into the most pirated one ever.

There is no such thing as a generous rich man. Just because he`s offering to bankroll LC doesnt change that a bit.

Personally I`m not concerned. Time will tell I suppose.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea thats true I hadn't thought of the 'route of all evil' scenario Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

However, his company's attack on Halifaxion does not bode well.

Halifaxion put together dozens of the most effective short films on 9/11 truth (and associated issues) on the web. Cuban's priority surely cannot be 9/11 truth or he would have protected this brilliant and very effective truther.
Now even YouTube message exchanges with Halifaxion have been deleted (from my account). The all-seeing eye is ever hard at work.

The 'Loose Change' guys should watch out. If this guy really will own the distribution rights he will be in a position to sink the project if he wishes.

I'd be looking for a few highly-defined cast-iron promises (or contractual clauses) if I were them.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbo234 wrote:
However, his company's attack on Halifaxion does not bode well.

I'd be looking for a few highly-defined cast-iron promises (or contractual clauses) if I were them.


I agree, I know about record companies that have signed up artist in the past in order to bury their material and protect their current (similar)roster. It does happen! When you have that much money, money isn't always the driving factor.
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