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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: Physics Proffessor Slams Death Ray Theory |
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"As Dr. James Fetzer suggests, Dr. Judy Wood may be unable to provide answers
to basic questions regarding her own speculative hypothesis. However, this paper does
quantitatively analyze those issues raised during the interview as well as address other
evidence advanced by Dr. Judy Wood and others that the WTC towers may have been
destroyed by directed energy weapons. The following arguments will prove that the
degree of implausibility places the hypothesis squarely in the realm of the impossible."
The Paper: http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200702/Implausibility-Direct ed-Energy-Beam-Demolish-WTC-by-Gregory-Jenkins.pdf _________________
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Micpsi Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the other side of the argument. A scathing criticism of Jenkins' modus operandi and a partial rebuttal of criticisms his paper directs towards the directed-energy weapon hypothesis of Dr Judy Wood: http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/dr_greg_jenkins.htm |
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CB_Brooklyn Moderate Poster
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 168 Location: NYC
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Physics Proffessor Slams Death Ray Theory |
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Stefan wrote: | "As Dr. James Fetzer suggests, Dr. Judy Wood may be unable to provide answers
to basic questions regarding her own speculative hypothesis. However, this paper does
quantitatively analyze those issues raised during the interview as well as address other
evidence advanced by Dr. Judy Wood and others that the WTC towers may have been
destroyed by directed energy weapons. The following arguments will prove that the
degree of implausibility places the hypothesis squarely in the realm of the impossible."
The Paper: http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200702/Implausibility-Direct ed-Energy-Beam-Demolish-WTC-by-Gregory-Jenkins.pdf |
That ridiculous paper does not refute the data, and has been fully debunked here. Besides, both S Jones and G Jenkins have ties to Los Alamos Laboratories where DEW research is conducted. Jenkins' former work was funded by the NSA, and Jones is a proven government plant
Who in their right mind is going to trust anything from them |
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chek Mega Poster
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Physics Proffessor Slams Death Ray Theory |
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CB_Brooklyn wrote: | Stefan wrote: | "As Dr. James Fetzer suggests, Dr. Judy Wood may be unable to provide answers
to basic questions regarding her own speculative hypothesis. However, this paper does
quantitatively analyze those issues raised during the interview as well as address other
evidence advanced by Dr. Judy Wood and others that the WTC towers may have been
destroyed by directed energy weapons. The following arguments will prove that the
degree of implausibility places the hypothesis squarely in the realm of the impossible."
The Paper: http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200702/Implausibility-Direct ed-Energy-Beam-Demolish-WTC-by-Gregory-Jenkins.pdf |
That ridiculous paper does not refute the data, and has been fully debunked here.] |
If you consider that so, you really need to check out the dictionary definitions of both 'thoroughly' and 'debunked'. ALW's quoted source does not show any significant 'dustified steel' particles in the dust samples collected, and apart from a weak attempt to parse the 'average 70 micron' particle size statement, doesn't contradict it either.
CB_Brooklyn wrote: | Besides, both S Jones and G Jenkins have ties to Los Alamos Laboratories where DEW research is conducted. Jenkins' former work was funded by the NSA, and Jones is a proven government plant
Who in their right mind is going to trust anything from them |
I cannot understood your assertion that Jones 'effectively discredited' Pons and Fleischman's work - you allude this is the case, but you sure don't demonstrate it, except by heavy pantomine-grade innuendo.
And surely your proudest moment - your merry band link Jones to murder, and par for the course, without any evidence whatsoever.
Your cheap smear attempts are worthy of an OCT agency - perhaps you are?
You ask 'who in their right mind is going to trust anything from them?'
Which sums up my thoughts on 911 "Researchers" pretty much exactly. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
It's them or us. |
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Stefan Banned
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 1219
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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CB,
That paper does not "debunk" it just repeats the same evidenceless nonsense Judy Woods does on a regular basis, and fails again to offer any real argument for any of the claims.
Defenders of Woods are yet to realise they are unwitting attackers of this campaign's credibility. Campaign remember not club.
When will the penny drop (from the window sill)? _________________
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WhoKilledBambi? Minor Poster
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 36
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Stefan wrote: | CB,
That paper does not "debunk" it just repeats the same evidenceless nonsense Judy Woods does on a regular basis, and fails again to offer any real argument for any of the claims.
Defenders of Woods are yet to realise they are unwitting attackers of this campaign's credibility. Campaign remember not club.
When will the penny drop (from the window sill)? |
What a complete pecker you are, the 911 movement is going NOWEHERE with idiots lie you at the helm. The only idiots that never stop going on about 'spacebeams' are the brainswashed victims of the stevenjones/911blogger mindkontrol kult.
Poor Suckers. |
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John White Site Admin
Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 3187 Location: Here to help!
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | The only idiots that never stop going on about 'spacebeams' are the brainswashed victims of the stevenjones/911blogger mindkontrol kult.
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Is it possible you are self delusional enough to believe this?
there's no "thermate fans" making threads prostituting Wood's "theory"
poor brave bambi! "my mommy will come back... won't she?" _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Stefan wrote: | Defenders of Woods are yet to realise they are unwitting attackers of this campaign's credibility. Campaign remember not club. |
My advice is to (1) politely agree to disagree and (2) remember that the views expressed on this forum DO NOT represent the campaign.
The campaign has no position on what really happened. Period. Therefore it has no view on Prof Woods or Prof Jones. It doesn't need one in order to call for a new investigation or to expose the lies and cover-up by the authorities.
Beyond this we all have our personal views and freedom to follow our own instincts and research.
The one thing that can be guranateed to continue fuel division and undermine credibility is to focus discussion on the most controversial theories and to trade insults about them.
Live and let live |
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Ian,
My point was that the truth campaign is a campaign CALLING for the truth, not a fringe club of people claiming to know it.
But, point taken. _________________
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1919 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: |
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It's good to see who is posting material to debunk the hypothesis which explains the most data and who posts material in support of SE Jones who claims that there was no fine dust in the destruction of the WTC 1 & 2. Can a truth campaign be based on such a bogus claim?
Why did Jones suggest I write a paper on DEW and submit it to him when I am not even a research scientist?
All this evidence is linked here, folks:
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/TheNew9-11Hijackers.htm
No "claims" here - you can find the link to the audio where Jones actually says there was no fine dust. _________________ Andrew
Ask the Tough Questions, Folks! |
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David WJ Sherlock Validated Poster
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 471 Location: Kent GB
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Andrew Johnson wrote: | It's good to see who is posting material to debunk the hypothesis which explains the most data and who posts material in support of SE Jones who claims that there was no fine dust in the destruction of the WTC 1 & 2. Can a truth campaign be based on such a bogus claim?
Why did Jones suggest I write a paper on DEW and submit it to him when I am not even a research scientist?
All this evidence is linked here, folks:
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/TheNew9-11Hijackers.htm
No "claims" here - you can find the link to the audio where Jones actually says there was no fine dust. | Hi Andrew. It seems to me that the "disinformation Junkies are getting their way in the Truth movement. Their seems to be a lot of arguing over all these different versions of the truth. From no planes to energy weapons. I am a fervent that there were planes in the attacks. But must be honest. I like the ideas of the Energy Weapons. I am a big fan of Radio Plays. I collect them on CD. I have a 6 part play called "The Voice Of God". Set in the Australian Outback, it is about the research and construction of a seismic energy weapon. It is really good. Would you like me to send you a copy? Email me and let me know. Dave. |
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marky 54 Mega Poster
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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regardless of whats true since beams have been around the movement has certainly split in to two sides fighting rather than one side with differant views amongst it debating.
im so trying to understand certain things about energy weapons, but do dread the replys for questioning it(although i have'nt had any real nasty ones reading others turns you of trying to understand.)
fact both hyothesis could be right there is no reason to presume not!
truthers are turning on each other and that aint good. i also get the feel people cannot ask questions anymore or point out what they think is a fault or something to think about without being attacked by someone being protective from the opposite side.
ive had it trying to understand it aint worth tiptoeing around in fear of saying the wrong thing about someones theory.
people can get there point across without being nasty and paranoid everyone is against it as oppose to trying to understand it. |
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Thermate Angel - now passed away
Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 445
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Andrew Johnson wrote: | Why did Jones suggest I write a paper on DEW and submit it to him when I am not even a research scientist? |
Because he was taking the piss out of you? Just a thought... _________________ Make love, not money. |
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 830 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I posted this earlier in another NPT thread in this section, so I AM saying this till I'm blue in the face!
What is self-evident to us - that the OCT is a pile of nonsense - is still a frightening intellectual leap for most people out there. But there are many pieces of solid evidence we can use to get them to look at and question 911. Whatever the rights or wrongs of holograms/pods/beam weapons, as an initial argument these theories just sound too mad and "out there" and will scare people away.
What are we trying to achieve? Is the movement's primary function to establish, down to the last detail, exactly what happened that day? Or is it to wake people up to the reality of geopolitics?
With another war looming in the Middle East, people being murdered, tortured and imprisoned, and our liberties being decimated, I would say that the most urgent task is to expose the root cause of the bogus "war on terror" as a lie, and to get as many people as possible to re-engage with politics and say enough is enough.
Only once we have reached a tipping point will we be in a position to demand answers to what actually happened that day. Until then, these discussions will remain speculative, and I would urge people to get out there and spread the word, rather than obsess over the details of what might have happened.
This is not a game - we need to campaign as effectively as possible and as quickly as possible in order to prevent further innocent lives being destroyed.
Regards
Annie _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus. |
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