Re: No Planes Poll Let's get it sorted

[David WJ Sherlock]

This poll will be ending in a couple of days. Lets get those votes in. We must show these NTP guys we are not buying this lie. So far 17 people have taken the time to vote. Lets get this issue resolved. I'm concerned regarding people like Thought Criminal who's ideology is making a laughing-stock of all we have worked so hard for. Even after all these years, there are many people who are still walking in sleep state, who think this is even more crazy than the idea that a government will kill it's own, as a pretext to war and enslaving us all, assuming we have been watching to much Big Brother and Soylent Green. http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue55/classic.html We are at risk of being equated with the "Lizard People"and ridiculed by those who we are trying to get this truth to. If we have been infiltrated by agents of disinformation. We need to show them they are wasting their time even trying. I'm not suggesting for one moment that Thought Criminal is an agent. But he as been drawn in to this garbage. but their is always the chance that he is. Do the poll. Get it to these people that we are a solid, reliable community who will not be swayed from the real truth and the real issue. VOTE. And shut them up!!! http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=8332

[thought criminal]

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[David WJ Sherlock]

[thought criminal]

[Bongo]

The only thing criminal about thought criminal is the 'thought' part!

[John White]

I've just shunted the No Planes Poll thread into Truth Controversies, becuase its had long enough here to "prove the point" (not that it needed to be proved) and allowing a thread about NPT into GC makes it unreasonable to shift NPT threads into Controversies: so time to put the whole issue into the context it belongs

[Bongo]

It deserves to be in a section named 'Daft Conspiracy Nut Nonsense'

... However, it seems to still be in 'General', rather than 'Controvercies'???

[paul wright]

Anyway, I'd missed the poll, so thanks for the reminder Bongo. To vote yes

[Wokeman]

Bongo,
Are you aware, well, I'm sure you are, that there are people who are quite close to those you know, admire, and respect who believe we in the 9/11Truth movement should be placed in the Daft Conspiracy Nut Nonsense sector, so don't go too far ahead of the crowd. I have no wish to reopen any wounds in the movement that some may accuse others of opening. We have all come to this point, in my case with about four and a half years of examining the events, after I saw the twin towers of the WTC collapse in what was obviously and demonstrably, as a result of a controlled demolition. After all, if it looks like one, acts like one, then it probably is one. Buildings that collapse because of other causes do not fall in a way that resemble controlled demolitions. Uniquely, controlled demoltions behave like that. OK, then, look at Web Fairy's vids of the plane (or if you like "plane") hitting the north tower, and ask yourself this. Does it behave in the manner that you believe a plane would behave. Why does it seemingly melt into the structure. Why is there no apparent reaction from the structure itself, because there just isn't. If that is the case, then maybe just MAYBE, it wasn't a plane. It was a "plane"! Don't forget, there were "hundreds of witnesses" (I have been confidently assured) to a plane crashing into the Pentagon. Except no evidence of a plane, the size of a Boeing 767, and no evidence of any passengers has ever been found. The only "evidence" if that is what it is, is that some people have said that there was a plane that obviously contained passengers. I believe what happened that day was an enormous stage conjuring trick - of the scale of David Copperfield, it's what intelligence services are very good at, the skills of the conjurer — distraction and mis-direction.

[paul wright]

Thanks for the clear non-hysterical statement, Wokeman. expected of you . Thoughtcriminal is very nice and active as so on, but like so many upholders of the outre theories, always a little overheated.
The NPT and the DEW are important, not because the how of 9/11 is important in itself, rather that they point to a practice run of how it is all brought to completion
The staging of the alien invasion,with all effects in place

[thought criminal]

[Wokeman]

TC,
Will you, in words of one syllable explain to me what you are trying to convey? Because all I see in your contributions, forgive me if I'm wrong, is a desire to introduce division and confusion into an organisation that so far has managed to steer clear of other such attempts. So, if that is your design, find somewhere else to play out your games and fantasies. Per-leeze!

[thought criminal]

[Bongo]

Wokeman wrote:

[thought criminal]

[Witchfinder General]

I was recently introduced to this subject by a business associate who referred me to the link below.

On this link there is original footage from the main television news channels in the USA such as ABC and CNN.

I have replayed all the videos in slow motion and (for me) the problem is that:

: non of the planes seem to decelarate upon impact
: non of the planes appear to meet any resistance
: there is no visual evidence of any plane parts upon impact
: After the plane has entered the building the entry hole heals itself
: there is no explosion upon impact
: the fireballs appear to come out of the exit hole
: none of the planes actually look like a real plane

For those of you who have not watched the slow motion replays then will you please watch them and tell me I'm not going mad and that I'm correct in having doubts about whether real planes were used

http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html

[chek]

[Fallious]

[chek]

[Snowygrouch]

Dear WFinder,
You are opening up a line of debate that is old, dried, crusty and very very DONE.

Professor of Physics Steven Jones has done de-celleration studies on the footage and found that the planes DO slow down. Its a very slight difference and NOT the sort of thing you can determine by loking at some shoddy you-tube footage by eyesight.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER in my mind & in the vast majority of minds of people here that REAL ACTUAL planes hit the towers.

You should search before posting stuff that has been debated for MONTHS on end aeons ago.

I`m quite fed up with this so HERE WE GO AGAIN.

Find attached a photo of the hole in the WTC; you will find the following of interest:

1: It is EXACTLY the correct size for a 767 aircraft
2: Its profiles matched EXACTLY with a 767
3: All videos claiming to show anguar differences in approach have been debunked.
4: There ARE NO beams bent OUTWARDS, the only bits pointing out are the thin bits of Aliminium cladding that COVERED the outer columns.
5: There are actually DENTS inwards at the ends where the wingtips failed to penetrate the steel.


It is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to have faked those holes. Ergo....planes hit.

Sorry;

END OF STORY

C.

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[chek]

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[Bongo]

Snowy & Chek, you are wasting your time with these fools, as Annie proposes (If I understand her right?) is that those who are serious about a further investigation need to separate themselves from the NPT etc.

You cannot even call NPT / Beams 'Controversial'... it does not deserve that respect.
To call a spade a spade... it is junk, propagated by 'Conspiracy theorists'!

Cheers Snowy,

Regards,

Brian.

[Bongo]

Cut and pasted from a thought criminal Post, which magically disappeared once posted (Ps. try and post a post and then delete it and you will see what I mean!)