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Private forums and a lack of real activism

 
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David WJ Sherlock
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Private forums and a lack of real activism Reply with quote

According to this. there is a private forum. One has to be active to join. Stefan! I say this with respect. Just because I am not part of their little Secret Society. It makes me no less an activist than the rest. I am moving in the world all the time. I have put my arse on the line too. I do not feel the need to go to these meetings. Lets face it. What is to be gained. I have seen no real 9/11 and 7/7 rallies or marches.

This is the type of thing that is happening. It is just like Monty Python's the life of Brian and the Judean Peoples Front Meetings.

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Truth Gatherings

A new format begins this month for what was previously known as the London Truth Planning Meetings.

Truth Gatherings are primarily social events, where was can all sit down over a beer, juice or coffee and discuss and debate the night away focusing on the bigger picture or finer points of 9/11 or related issues; it?s a great opportunity for seasoned campaigners to get to know each other better, and a welcome open forum for new members, or for people who are curious about the campaign to come along and meet us all.

The planning meetings will now be a 'meeting within a meeting' allowing those who are bursting with energy to get things done to organise future action in a focused manner. For all those pro-active types who are champing at the bit to make a real difference, we will adjourn mid meeting to a private room for a strictly logistical affair. We will agree what needs to be done and the tasks will be delegated.

Anyone who would like to be a part of this is welcome; as long as it is understood that if you walk through the door you are tacitly agreeing to roll your sleeves up when things need to be done. The thinking behind separating the social side and the planning sides of our meetings is rooted in efficiency alone. By making the ?formal meeting? element separate we can drive through it much faster and without tangents distracting the focus left right and centre, leaving the majority of the evening open for free thinking discussion and, of course, fun.

It would be great to see some of the new faces who have been popping up at our public meetings to come along and meet us all.

We'll be at the Counting House Pub on Cornhill from 7pm till late.

Nearest Tube: Bank
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We need to be out on the street. Talking to the Family Man. the man on the street. We need to be heard by the people in power. this is why I am out there confronting MP's and local politicians and so on... I could go to all the "feedback meeting" "over a friendly glass of beer as much as I like. But that does not hit where it counts. We Know they bombed the towers and blew up the trains. What is the point of sitting 'round with all our people discussing it. We can have all the feedback meetings we like. That will not achieve much. Lets get outside Parliament. Lets get out into the market squares, the shopping centers. Anywhere in public. I am an activist. I will put my balls on the fire for this cause. I will will give my all to this. Maybe people like me are not welcome at these meetings, because I may make them feel uncomfortable. I do not sit around talking. I believe in action. Wy weapon, the word. We can make all the songs, all the films. They are good. But face to face with the people we want to get the truth to is what we should do. When I see "Super poster" "Mighty Poster" that says to me, too much time being spent, preaching to the chior.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This sort of thing should be dealt with privatly.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I see "Super poster" "Mighty Poster" that says to me, too much time being spent, preaching to the chior.


Since I am always close to being banned, I am perhaps not preaching to any choir. Rolling Eyes However I take your point on activism. The 911 truth movement is mostly about chatting with like mindeds rather than getting a wider constituency. People are drifting in though. Once in they can't go back.

How would you activate the tube-watchers and clubbers?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Organise public meetings, events and film showings?

Make films, leaflets, booklets ect?

Hit the streets and events and leaflet and talk to people?

Burn DVDs and give them out?

Organise multiple lone protests at parliament?

Set up stalls and sell 9/11 stuff?

All things that are organised or helped along by cooperation through the planning meetings and Pforum - which are supposedly a distraction from "real activism"...

Here we have people who don't go to public meetings making wild guesses at what their purpose is and then saying what we really should be doing is [insert EXACTLY what planning meetings are there to help make happen]... insanity!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rodin, I'm afraid there are a only a handful of real people on this site. The private forums exist so that a select group can control the flow of information. From what I've seen the real goal here is simply to channel 9/11 Truth into directions that pose no harm to the status quo at all. That's why you have John White as a moderator here.

Perhaps I'm wrong and the original intention of the site was good, but it's been taken over and infiltrated by people like John White. In any case, there is clearly an attempt to stifle good people like me, so you won't find a lot of new research going on here.
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