How upfront is 'Team Rachel' North?

[karlos]

http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/

Im surprised nobody has said anything but this person has been all over the media today asking for a public inquiry into 7/7.
While i understand she is a writer and believes the official story so technically she is the enemy.
But if she succeeds in getting an inquiry everyone else will be sble to join in like bus bomb victims who have realised the official story is lies.

So just interested in everyones comments about rachel north.

[marky 54]

tony blair and someone from MI5 were on tele yesterday basically saying the same thing, no!.

an investigastion will divert people away from protecting us.

im hearing the same lines repeated all the time.

"they only need to get through once"

basically the impression i got was that if they investigate 7/7 we will be in danger from terrorists.

its used for everything isnt it, to get what they want and to deny what they dont want.

[kbo234]

Rachel North seems to be a rather peculiar individual. A victim of 7/7, she is very evangelical, righteous and empowered by the whole experience. I was told that she 'invaded' a London 9/11 meeting and 'took it over' lambasting the entire company.

She is very angry and knows exactly who she is angry with. No physics or physical, logistical or circumstantial evidence is of interest to this girl. Anyone who goes there is a 'conspiraloon'.

This behaviour makes her a peculiar type of control freak IMO.

However, she appears to be battling for an independent inquiry into 7/7. It is unlikely she'll get one. If by some miracle an inquiry is forced on the government the chances on it being independent are virtually nil.

Still, good luck to her.

She has suffered and forcing the instigation of a 7/7 inquiry would surely be a great achievement for her.

[TonyGosling]

[The Watcher]

Tony Gosling wrote:

[TonyGosling]

The watchers are in denial again and apparently don't have access to Google

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[The Watcher]

Tony Gosling wrote:

[Skeptic]

It would probably be courteous to draw her attention to this thread.

[karlos]

I think as i said Rachel North has done well to get her campaign all over the media in many ways she has done BETTER than us.
But i did look back at her previous posts:

[TonyGosling]

Rachel has every right to believe the official theory - and to be rude when accused of being an agent when she is actually a victim of 7/7.

[blackcat]

[Dogsmilk]

[karlos]

The problem with Rachel North is she has no issue with the facts that:

there is no cctv of the alleged 7/7 bombers - none on the bus, trains, platforms, ticket halls, car parks, etc
there is no credible eye witnesses of any of the alleged 7/7 bombers
the company in charge of london transport security VERINT engaged all its 1000+ employees on a drill to coincide with the bombs same stations same MO
Israeli embassy was issued with an alert BEFORE the bombs went off
train times dont match
all the bombs were military grade
why was bombed bus the only bus diverted?
how did 'injured' headband man appear before any medics or ambulances arrived?
why did 'muslim' bus bomber grab an egg mcmuffin before blowing himself up?
why did the bombers leave the 'best' bombs back in the boot of the car?
why did they buy return tickets?
why did they pay and display? they werent coming back were they?
how did they keep the 'mission' secret from all their friends, families and relatives several had small kids one had a pregnant wife, if they really were clean skins how comes they crossed M15's paths several times?
Why did one mans documents survive the explosion and end up at SEVERAL bomb sites?
Why did Ian Blair announce "there are definately 4 bombers" before anyone even knew then retract when he realised he had spoken too soon?

What really happened at the outdoor retreat where they all went kayaking and team building. Was hypnotism or auto suggestion part of the course?

The only question Rachel is asking is why didnt the security services nip this in the bud before it happened.
i can answer her now.
Because 7/7 was an inside job.

[blackcat]

[Pikey]

Bona fide 911 and 7/7 truthseekers must focus on the common ground and work together in a co-operative and professional manner if we are to be successful in our mission to expose the truth.

We should all learn from our mistakes and IMO mistakes have been made by individuals who resort to insults, shoot the messenger and play the man not the ball. That includes Rachel North.

I hope that somebody has archived many of the blogs that Rachel put on this site, she did edit/remove many of them and personally that made me very skeptical.

IMO we are totally justified in being skeptical about Rachel North. I have not her met nor would I feel comfortable in doing so. I have met Milan Rai
though and was appalled at his ignorance and disrespect of avoiding answering the really tough questions on 7/7 at Kendal last year.

Despite this I do support the demand for a full professional INDEPENDENT inquiry into 7/7 and do support Rachel North in this.

7/7 appears to be following exactly the same path as 911. Watching "Press for Truth" at Lancaster, thanx to the Lancaster Truth Campaign and RINF.com made me realise that there would have been no inquiry into 911 if it had not been for the survivors, their families and the Victim support group they set up.

Lets keep it professional (there are some brilliant minds in this campaign) ..............compose all the tough questions that we would like to see addressed in the public enquiry and hand a professional looking document to Rachel.

No speculation, no insults, just tough questions........the David Ray Griffin
pathway!

Its interesting to note that Rachel has studied theology so there is something in common with DRG there!

Lets take up the opportunities not waste them.

[ian neal]

In seeking to understand Rachel's position and her attitude to conspiracy theories and certain users of this site (mostly fuelled by the ever diplomatic Ally: now no longer with us) I suggest you search for rachel on this forum, read her blog and read her contributions on U75 where she posts as badger kitten. There has been a lot of water under the bridge when it comes to Rachel.

[Busker]

If I remember rightly Rachel has booksales to push about 7/7 doesn't she?

Isn't it just basic marketing that she would want to focus on that rather than 9/11?

[marky 54]

lets not presume why she is doing it other than the reasons given on the news that she has said herself and any reasons that may of been given when she was here previously.

regardless of if she thinks 7/7 was an inside job or just errors were made, she has every right to asks for an inquiry if she feels she has not had all the answers, she was a victim and as such it is her right regardless of if it fits what people on this sight were hoping for.

i doubt she will get it but we never know, nor do we know where it will led to but surely has to be a positive thing.

[Long Tooth]

How ironic, Ms North becomes a victim of a false flag 7/7, she cannot see it, preferring to peddle her conspiracy version of events in her book, while mocking the mother of all false flags 9/11.

dosant it seem to obvious with all the MSM press she is getting that something just does not add up with her,?

One cannot reason with her, why she chooses to ignore serious questions regarding 9/11 and 7/7 only she knows, perhaps it was easier to focus on the llunitic fringe of 9/11 and choose to tarbrush and airbrush the whole facts.

she is a 'usefool' tool, perhaps she is even aware of being manipulated, or perhaps not?

Maybe even thats why the media give her so much airtime, a useful tool in spreading 9/11 lies?

Why else would any intellectual person who has studied all the evidence with an open mind be so callous and calculating in dismissing the anomolies in 9/11 and 7/7?

[david carmichael]

[Dogsmilk]

[ian neal]

David

see this post here

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=68769&highlight=#687 69

Don't post off topic

Thanks

[david carmichael]

[KP50]

[blackcat]

[Dogsmilk]

[conspiracy analyst]

by the mass media that Rachel North is a victim of the false flag operation of 7/7.

She also gets prime time on Newsnight.

Brown is taking over soon. A public inquiry may occur.
One did with Dr David Kelly. What was the result?

We were also informed that a journalist by the name of Barbara Olson was on one of those flights that crashed into the Twin Towers.

Was there a plane crash and did Barbara Olson make the phone call on a plane before it crashed?

Was Rachel North a victim of 7/7?

She must be as she appeared on ...Newsnight.
I have no other evidence to go by as no CCTV has ever been released as to what occurred on 7/7 despite the fact that there are cameras every 50metres or so in central London and on the undergound network there are cameras everywhere.

[karlos]

that is an interesting point because she appears not to have suffered injury and i dont think she is donating her book sales to the victims fund?

her ego will encourage her to return and respond to these comments which i am sure she has read

[blackcat]

[kbo234]

Mm....it is peculiar, isn't it, that the 'voices' of 7/7 survivors and their families are so clear about the bandwith inside which their concerns fall.....

...i.e. that individuals within the system may have failed in their duties and so we 'must' know about these failures but that all the circumstantial and physical evidence related to possible security service involvement is 'ridiculous' and only of interest to lunatics like ourselves.

The photo published in the Daily Mail showing the hole in a train floor with all the metal round the edges bent UP into the carriage would be something I would be making loads of noise about if the TV cameras were being pointed at me.

Athough this comment contradicts an earlier post of mine on this thread, there is surely a high probability that the leadership of the visible 7/7 victims group is, like so many other parties, controlled by the security services (wasn't Haroon Ashwat, an MI6 agent according to the Americans, a contact of and, therefore, likely co-ordinator of all the 7/7 'bombers').

Like many on this site I believe it most likely that the 7/7 'bombers' were patsies being paid to play a game during something they understood to be an exercise (they could easily have been conned into making the videos as part of this 'game')......and that they had no idea that they were carrying real explosives at the beginning of this game anyway.......
....who were the two asian men shot outside Canary Wharf on the morning of 7/7 (reported in the New Zealand press only, it would seem)?


There are so many more serious questions about 7/7 that yes,.......the furious determination of Rachel North to exclude consideration of such information is indeed more than puzzling.


....and let us not forget that her manner of disagreeing with us was not to engage with the evidence that is the substance of our concerns but to resort to vicious ad hominem abuse. The fact that some of this group retaliated in kind was understandable....but did play into her rather unpleasant hands.