I guess a lot of you guys south of the border do not understand the gravity of what is happening in Scotland right now...
Here!!! I will try and provide the gravity of it to you in relation to busting the US/UK vendetta against the world (Iraq, Iran, 9/11 etc).
Lets look at history for a second, the UK is still under this notion that it is a great super power on the world stage (The Empire anyone? ), this is why we (under the wing of our mentors the USA) think we can roam around the world, with our Nuclear arsenal, attacking all those who oppose us (usually the ones with oil ).
The break up of the UK ( ) will result in the USA losing it's biggest partner in crime.... and we all know how criminals react when they feel threatened and alone... yep they run away!
If you people down south are still not fully aware of the feeling and political will that exists up here, it is only because the 'wonderful' BBC has not let you know. But... You will know after May 3rd 2007.... and things are going to change!
To my English, Welsh and Irish Cousins...
Scotland is about to set the heather alight and in turn... Set you all free!!!
There was a debate on Radio 4 yesterday about the effects of Scotland breaking away and one of them was a few hundred quid extra in the pockets of the rest of us as Scotland gets so much more revenue spent on it. I suspect there are a few million people in England who will choose Scottish nationality because of parentage and they may well be invited to vacate if it suits the government. It may not all be a bed of roses for the Scots.
On a separate issue I've always wondered when the UK disintegrates who will the Northern Ireland "Loyalists" be loyal to?
i being english used to be against the break up of the UK
However after seeing the effects of Blairism i am now 1000% in favour.
It will be hard for England to declare war against every muslim in the world without Scottish fusiliers and Welsh regiments and Irish Guards.
Very lttle of the british army is english. Take out the Ghurkas, the west Indians, the Fijians etc.
So as a means to stopping the march towards global destruction i now support Scottish independance.
Where i disagree with Salmon is he wants Scotland to be part of Europe.
What a complete fool talk about out of the frying pan into the fire.
Indepence means nothing if Scotland is simply a small region of the United States of Europe.
Europe is ruled by an unelected POLITBURO called the commission
Better off voting UKIP, Respect or Tommy Sheridan _________________
There was a debate on Radio 4 yesterday about the effects of Scotland breaking away and one of them was a few hundred quid extra in the pockets of the rest of us as Scotland gets so much more revenue spent on it. I suspect there are a few million people in England who will choose Scottish nationality because of parentage and they may well be invited to vacate if it suits the government. It may not all be a bed of roses for the Scots.
On a separate issue I've always wondered when the UK disintegrates who will the Northern Ireland "Loyalists" be loyal to?
This is an age old misnomer, that the English fund the Scots!
Per head of capita, Scots provide more to the tresury than we receive. The Tory's used this argument to try and prevent devolution. Now Labour are using it to try and prevent the split. Scotland is a Nation of 5 million, but has far greater natural resources to sustain the population. Life is never a bed of roses Blackcat, but if it was, at least it would be our own bed of roses!
As far as the Unionists in NI are concerned. From working over there, they should be part of Ireland anyway. I for one am sick of us paying paying hundreds of millions of pounds to keep forces over there to keep the peace. If the Irish can't deal with their differences then why the hell should we have to sort them out.
The main point here though in relation to the political effect on the 9/11 triggered war on terror is that the UK splitting up will once and for all dissolve the Westminster fanatasy that Great Britain is still an empire. The English will be forced to rediscover their true national identity and the war mongerers in Labout and the Tory's will find this a very difficult situation. The Lib Dems may even become a greater threat in an independant England? And ultimately, the US will lose it's partner in crime.
This is an age old misnomer, that the English fund the Scots!
Per head of capita, Scots provide more to the tresury than we receive
I suggest you go to Radio 4 and use the "Listen Again" function. There were several people representing Scottish and English points of view and there seemed to be no denying that Scotland is heavily subsidised by the English taxpayer. In fact the only defence of this accepted position was that Scots provide the English with political and other expertise and so are worth it!!!! There is still the fact that over generations the migration from Scotland to England has meant that there is far more Scots blood flowing through the veins of the current English population that there is in the entire population ofScotland. Yes - England is more Scottish than Scotland! Many will have the right to Scottish passports. What will you do with them all if some future English government kicks them out??
Poor daft wee Bongo hasn't really got a clue about the big picture, has he?
The British government have always used Northern Ireland to train their troops in urban warfare eventually to be used against Bongo on the mainland. That's all Northern Ireland is... a great big training ground.
Who cares if Scotland go "independent" They will only end up as another region in the British Isles. They have plans afoot to break up England into EU regions and the same in Ireland.
The plan is to do away with the whole idea of the nation state, ma silly wee laddie, can ye no cop on? Salmon is working for the NWO as is Gerry Adams in Ireland.
As if elections mean anything anyway! As if the average Scotsman will notice any difference if they break away from England! How much of the North Sea oil revenues did you see, Bonkers?
Oh dear, here we go again, a new light and vision at the end of the tunnel.
The natives are getting restless so lets give them the illusion and 'option' of change, just like south africa, the natives were restless, oppenhiemers controlling 80% of the wealth before the ANC, and after the ANC, the natives sedated and oppenhiemers still with 80% of the nations wealth and power.
The SNP are going nowhere withouth the elites consent, support and leadership. Wake up. Try reading the treason and felony act for starters.
Poor daft wee Bongo hasn't really got a clue about the big picture, has he?
... yeah well I do have the intelligence, despite my conviction that 9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by rougue elements of the US administration, to understand that politics are politics and that there is more than one force at work in the world.
You would believe that one element (maybe you call it the illuminati?) control absolutely everything... well to wake you up for a second....
Things are just not a simple as that!
FOOL!
Ps. If you believe that we cannot make a difference politically and socially to the world, then the question has to be asked... What the hell is your agenda? To spread cr@p conspiracy theories?
Oh dear, here we go again, a new light and vision at the end of the tunnel.
The natives are getting restless so lets give them the illusion and 'option' of change, just like south africa, the natives were restless, oppenhiemers controlling 80% of the wealth before the ANC, and after the ANC, the natives sedated and oppenhiemers still with 80% of the nations wealth and power.
The SNP are going nowhere withouth the elites consent, support and leadership. Wake up. Try reading the treason and felony act for starters.
... you provide all the complaints about NWO controllers, how about you provide a suggestion for the solution? How do you propose nations govern themselves in a fair and balanced manner? I am guessing here that you do not see political means as the solution? If so... what is your alternative?
If you can answer that, and if it is a reasonable idea, I will eat my hat!
I suggest you go to Radio 4 and use the "Listen Again" function. There were several people representing Scottish and English points of view and there seemed to be no denying that Scotland is heavily subsidised by the English taxpayer.
WHAT??? ... you stole our oil for 40 years and you think, YOU SUBSIDISE US!!!
I take it these people were all Tories and Labour people??? THAT FIGURES!
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There seemed to be no denying that Scotland is heavily subsidised by the English taxpayer.
... So you are a convert to the BBC now! Yeah! they speak the truth!
At least there is still land to fight over in Scotland
I agree Bongo we need a solution to NWO and sitting around whining gets us nowhere!
It is clear to me the only thing Blair gets from his War on Terror is peace, we need to uncover the true Warmongers and their agenda! Is it the Royals? Corporate Industry (where in the UK lolz) Big finance? Religious Right? Does USA still hold a Noose after WW2 or is it that European Elites still hold USA bang to rights? these are just some of the things that need answering if we are to get anywhere!
Maybe a seizure of power would benefit the people as its likely the quickest way to directly answer the peoples questions one way or the other _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
My gut feeling though is that all that is likely is yet another turn of 'Divide and Conquer' _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Independance means nothing if Scotland is simply a small region of the United States of Europe.
Can any SNP supporter explain to me how this makes sense. What is the point of independance if you stay in Europe?
If Scotland left Europe i would move up to Scotland myself asap.
When Ireland was given independance by the only Liberal government by the same guy who was convicted of cash for honours every Irish person retained the right to travel and work in the UK the right to collect benefits in both countries and the fact remains MORE Irish live in Britain than in Ireland. So when not if Scotland gains independance the same rules will apply, there will be a free flow of peolple, jobs, businesses and money and it will benefit Scotland at the expense of England.
Why would you want to be in Tony Blairs England with congestion charges, high taxes, high expenses, high crime, global wars, when you can relocate to Scotland and get clean air, plenty of space, good food, lower taxes and lower costs. Better health care. etc _________________
we need to uncover the true Warmongers and their agenda! Is it the Royals? Corporate Industry (where in the UK lolz) Big finance? Religious Right? Does USA still hold a Noose after WW2 or is it that European Elites still hold USA bang to rights? these are just some of the things that need answering if we are to get anywhere!
Disco, I fully agree. and would add that we cannot neglect political means as a way to achieve these goals. To just whinge about the wrongs while slating democracy will not achieve anything.
Yes, there is a war on democracy... and we will lose the war if we are led away from the political democracy route. Surely it is ultimately the fairness of democracy that we all fight for? and it is the corporate multi-nationals with their partners in crime in governmental positions withing the US and UK governments which are the enemies of democracy.
You just have to look at Bush rigging elections, Labour cash for peerages etc to realise we can make a difference and the front line is to politically disable these devils.
I fully believe that Scotland under self rule would never support illegal wars, weapons of mass destruction and can be a catalyst for our southern cousins to enact a sea of change to the current geo-political mess the world has become because of the obsessive and immoral greed of a minority.
Regards,
Brian.
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When Ireland was given independance by the only Liberal government by the same guy who was convicted of cash for honours every Irish person retained the right to travel and work in the UK the right to collect benefits in both countries and the fact remains MORE Irish live in Britain than in Ireland. So when not if Scotland gains independance the same rules will apply, there will be a free flow of peolple, jobs, businesses and money and it will benefit Scotland at the expense of England.
... Seems to me you are afraid of the competition?
How do you consider that Scots business experience in areas, for example Engineering and Medical developments (where we have consistantly excelled), would be at the expense of the English? Wouldn't a true free market (and I dont mean the current corporation/banker controlled one) create wealth and prosperity? What would be so bad about educated Scots supplying their expertise in England (and vice versa)?
Your argument could be construed as a little Jealous or possibly Racist! As I have said before, maybe when Scotland goes it alone, this will have the effect of allowing the English mind set to change and English people enabling themselves to truely be English and proud to be so.
Scotland, England and Wales share a small island on this globe, for that reason we will always be close in so many ways, but the legacy of the Brittish Empire, which is now dead still drags us down. As a result, the Scottish identity is screaming to break free and I believe this feeling is also true south of the border (although expressed in different ways maybe?). I believe this to be a good thing! We in the 9/11 truth movement continually say that we can all do small things to make a difference to the unsatisfactory (I'm sure we all agree) ststus quo... Imagine how the break up of the Union would damage those who wish to enslave all the people... all of the time? It dis-empowers them and swings the pendulum back in our favour.
Ach, away bile yer heed, Bongo!
You reckon the Scottish people would not support wars and mass weapons of indiscretion? So why do you still have Faslane in Scotland? Nearly all the New Labour clones/Stepford wives are Scottish. That little twirp Alexander, Transport, Brown, Des Green, Mac Farland, the fat little Gorbals *, even Blair sometimes claims to be posh Scots. Loads more.
They said that about neutral Ireland but the American Nazis use Shannon Airport as a staging post for Iraq and Afghanistan. Gerry Adams has sold his soul to the devil and wants to see a multicultural Ireland divided up into regions for the EU. Mary Whats her name, the Ex President of Ireland was put there by the Bilderbergers. Robinson.
You reckon the Scottish people would not support wars and mass weapons of indiscretion?
A. In a resounding word... Yes! Try reading the SNP manifesto, of which full nuclear disarmement has always been a core issue... Oh... and please feel free to sign the Non-proliferation partition... every little helps! http://snp.org/campaigns/trident/view?searchterm=nuclear%20weapons
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So why do you still have Faslane in Scotland?
A. Simply Because at the moment it is forced on us and we have no choice, but believe me, I come from Glasgow and we (the majority, as you will see on May 3rd) want that evil removed from scottish soil ASAP.
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Nearly all the New Labour clones/Stepford wives are Scottish. That little twirp Alexander, Transport, Brown, Des Green, Mac Farland, the fat little Gorbals *, even Blair sometimes claims to be posh Scots. Loads more.
A. Come on, catch up Mick!
These Labour guy's (who happen to be Scots) that you are slating ARE UNIONISTS...
Q. So are we on the same side now? cos we in Scotland certainly want rid of the people you describe above.
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They said that about neutral Ireland but the American Nazis use Shannon Airport as a staging post for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Oh dear, here we go again, a new light and vision at the end of the tunnel.
The natives are getting restless so lets give them the illusion and 'option' of change, just like south africa, the natives were restless, oppenhiemers controlling 80% of the wealth before the ANC, and after the ANC, the natives sedated and oppenhiemers still with 80% of the nations wealth and power.
The SNP are going nowhere withouth the elites consent, support and leadership. Wake up. Try reading the treason and felony act for starters.
... you provide all the complaints about NWO controllers, how about you provide a suggestion for the solution? How do you propose nations govern themselves in a fair and balanced manner? I am guessing here that you do not see political means as the solution? If so... what is your alternative?
If you can answer that, and if it is a reasonable idea, I will eat my hat!
How does one go about ridding the corruption and secret society menace, if there was a soloution many finer men than i am or will ever be would have put the answer out there by now. I personally dont think anything can stop it/them.
Every aspect of power/influence corrupted, media, armed forces, police, intelligence agencies, judges, lawyers, you name it, corrupt. How do i propose to stop it,.........your having a laugh arent you?
I just have to laugh when i see a new 'messiah' for the people rolled out, and the people someone believing that its going to make one iota of difference.
As for the good citizens of scotland not supporting any wars of nuclear armament? well er just a second, i cant recall millions of people in England marching in pro war rallies supporting the wars, in fact its the opposite, we the people have the illusion of choice, ie voting. same people, same agenda, different name/party. If any real political party sprung up to be a threat to power, what do you think would happen?
It would benefit the people of England to be rid of the New Labour mafia.
However, in many ways cutting up the UK which is already a small island may be like cutting off your legs.
I agree with Bongo in that nothing will change much because English, Welsh, Scots, Unionists etc will all still live side by side and work together and move freely.
But independance always benefits the smaller entity.
Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, Gibraltar are by far the richest parts of the UK.
Monaco is the richest part of France.
An independant Scotland will become rich that is for sure.
But as i am not Scottish that dosent personally benefit me!!!
So yes i am envious.
In terms of warmongering foreign policy and civil liberty etc i dont think it will be long before Labour regain control of Scotland and take us back down the road to armageddon.
An English parliament will be a positive step forward because it will NEVER be run by Labour.
QUESTION
What is the SNP's policy regarding 911 and 7/7?
Truth or Lies?
And you did not respond to my question regarding Europe _________________
Bongo, I really don't want to get into a pointless arguement about pointless politics. So all the Jocks in Parliament are Unionists? Probably true but still being token independent won't change who is running the show. The Rothschilds will still be lording it over you and us and the other banks and corporations. They know no national boundaries. Who owns the press in Scotland?
Elections are meaningless. I don't really know the answer either but just lusting after riches a la Monaco is not the answer. Blimey, we are filthy rich already. All of us, compared to the majority of people in the world. How much more do we want?
Unfortunately those who make it to the top are generally psychopathic. They have no feelings for anyone else. They just want power, money and the good life. Those rare beings who work their way to the top of the pile endeavouring to do some good for their fellows are soon bumped off or corrupted. All of them!
I think the answer may lie in the total breakdown of society. Something has to happen to awaken the sheep from their stupor.
Perhaps it has always been this way and this corruption and rottenness we see all around us is perfectly natural. After all everything in nature decays eventually. It's a cycle. Perhaps the answer does lie in the spiritual life as the mystics have been telling us down the centuries. Magic! Prayer. Meditation. The stars. Expanding our minds. Using all of our brain. The inner life. So what if millions of us are wiped out? Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Let's learn to accept death.
This is certainly the way I am heading and it's not a cop out. Let those who are just beginning to wake up march and demonstrate and rip up GM crops and scream and shout and go vegetarian and drop out and bash an occasional copper and spit on the Queen and rant on messageboards and strive to awaken the rest of the dumbed down dummies carry on. Excellent! We are all at different levels. I feel I've spent most of my life doing all of that from the anti-Vietnam demo in Grosvenor Square in 1968 to the anti-Iraq war demos of a few years ago. Time to start putting all my spiritual theories into practise now before I move on to wherever we shuffle off to.
I don't want to end up a poor old git like Tony Benn spouting out the same old stuff that he has been spouting since 1968 and getting older and older and learning nothing new. Wouldn't it be lovely if the likes of him gave up their security and came on board the 9/11 truth campaign or Gorgeous George stopped worrying about where his next ten thousand quid is coming from or if he looks good in this new Armani or Boss suit and joined us.
I shall always try to speak the truth to all who want to know about who is really running the show and will always try to awaken those who are asleep and I will put my head above the parapet but it is the inner life for me folks. It's the only way to go. Aum. Om mani padme hum and all that jazz!
Where's me Ouspenski and Gurdjieff books? Alice Bailey anyone? Rudolph Steiner? Try a spot of meditation for some guidance. Join whats his name in the Malvern Hills.
An independant Scotland will become rich that is for sure.
But as i am not Scottish that dosent personally benefit me!!!
So yes i am envious.
... that's the beauty of it though mate, you always have the freedom to move up to Glasgow if you think you could do better here...
...hell, I'll even welcome you, show you around and buy you a pint!
As far as your question on Europe goes, I share your NWO concerns regarding Globalisation, but after spending time in Holland & Germany and from extensive travelling throughout Europe, I am inclined to want to work closer to the people of these countries rather than remain as the 51st State of America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state)!
Bongo, I really don't want to get into a pointless arguement about pointless politics. So all the Jocks in Parliament are Unionists? Probably true but still being token independent won't change who is running the show. The Rothschilds will still be lording it over you and us and the other banks and corporations. They know no national boundaries. Who owns the press in Scotland?
Elections are meaningless. I don't really know the answer either but just lusting after riches a la Monaco is not the answer.
... well, you certainly don't like a narrow field of argument.
Right where to start? 'Pointless argument about pointless politics'? I have to disagree here, if that is your outlook, then we already have no nope! I am of the mindset that we are in eternal war against oppression, but if we are negative towards the issues then we have already lost. Why do you bother even posting here if you do not deep down believe that there is hope for us all? So all the Jocks in Parliament are Unionists? Probably true but still being token independent won't change who is running the show.... again I have to disagree, do you see France invading independant sovereign nations for control of oil? An independant Scotland can make this choice too? We will chose to change who is running the show on May 3rd.... at least it will be a step in the right direction!
The Rothschilds will still be lording it over you and us and the other banks and corporations. They know no national boundaries. Who owns the press in Scotland?... I cannot disagree with that, but these are problems we all face in the world today and Scottish Independence is not the whole answer and will not solve everything, but it is a start.
Elections are meaningless. I don't really know the answer either but just lusting after riches a la Monaco is not the answer.... First, I do not think that saving billions of pounds by refusing to spend it on pointless weapons of mass destruction and instead spending it on moral requirements such as Hospitals and the welbeing of your population, particularly the poor, is 'Lusting after riches Monaco style'! Second, I agree, we do not have all the answers, but as I said in my last answer, we have to start somewhere! We have to change something because what we have at present needs changing! I think we can all agree on that one!
I think the answer may lie in the total breakdown of society. Something has to happen to awaken the sheep from their stupor. I hope not , Anarchy is not the answer!
So what if millions of us are wiped out? Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Let's learn to accept death. ... I do not believe you when you say this ... you obviously care enough to be on this site discussing issue of which we are all concerned, so I know you care!
I shall always try to speak the truth to all who want to know about who is really running the show and will always try to awaken those who are asleep and I will put my head above the parapet but it is the inner life for me folks. It's the only way to go. ... I thought the inner life was about peace and tranquility? You are exhibiting outward rage, not inner peace. But heck, outward rage is usually my position too, so we probably agree on more than you think.
Oh dear, here we go again, a new light and vision at the end of the tunnel.
The natives are getting restless so lets give them the illusion and 'option' of change, just like south africa, the natives were restless, oppenhiemers controlling 80% of the wealth before the ANC, and after the ANC, the natives sedated and oppenhiemers still with 80% of the nations wealth and power.
The SNP are going nowhere withouth the elites consent, support and leadership. Wake up. Try reading the treason and felony act for starters.
... you provide all the complaints about NWO controllers, how about you provide a suggestion for the solution? How do you propose nations govern themselves in a fair and balanced manner? I am guessing here that you do not see political means as the solution? If so... what is your alternative?
If you can answer that, and if it is a reasonable idea, I will eat my hat!
How does one go about ridding the corruption and secret society menace, if there was a soloution many finer men than i am or will ever be would have put the answer out there by now. I personally dont think anything can stop it/them.
Every aspect of power/influence corrupted, media, armed forces, police, intelligence agencies, judges, lawyers, you name it, corrupt. How do i propose to stop it,.........your having a laugh arent you?
I just have to laugh when i see a new 'messiah' for the people rolled out, and the people someone believing that its going to make one iota of difference.
As for the good citizens of scotland not supporting any wars of nuclear armament? well er just a second, i cant recall millions of people in England marching in pro war rallies supporting the wars, in fact its the opposite, we the people have the illusion of choice, ie voting. same people, same agenda, different name/party. If any real political party sprung up to be a threat to power, what do you think would happen?
'Always the negative ways Moriarty always the negative ways' Nobody supports these bullies all we need is a trigger, maybe that will come in the form of an ID card? _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
It would benefit the people of England to be rid of the New Labour mafia.
However, in many ways cutting up the UK which is already a small island may be like cutting off your legs.
I agree with Bongo in that nothing will change much because English, Welsh, Scots, Unionists etc will all still live side by side and work together and move freely.
But independance always benefits the smaller entity.
Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, Gibraltar are by far the richest parts of the UK.
Monaco is the richest part of France.
An independant Scotland will become rich that is for sure.
But as i am not Scottish that dosent personally benefit me!!!
So yes i am envious.
In terms of warmongering foreign policy and civil liberty etc i dont think it will be long before Labour regain control of Scotland and take us back down the road to armageddon.
An English parliament will be a positive step forward because it will NEVER be run by Labour.
QUESTION
What is the SNP's policy regarding 911 and 7/7?
Truth or Lies?
And you did not respond to my question regarding Europe
This is not a right vs left political debate its rich lords ladies and gentlemen on a power grab. Our political system is there to offer a smokescreen to hide the powermongers from the good honest folk. The more poeple awake to this the harder it is for these cretins to hide their agendas, and then too, greater the public awareness. (did Rome fall in a day?) _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
An independant Scotland will become rich that is for sure.
But as i am not Scottish that dosent personally benefit me!!!
So yes i am envious.
... that's the beauty of it though mate, you always have the freedom to move up to Glasgow if you think you could do better here...
...hell, I'll even welcome you, show you around and buy you a pint!
As far as your question on Europe goes, I share your NWO concerns regarding Globalisation, but after spending time in Holland & Germany and from extensive travelling throughout Europe, I am inclined to want to work closer to the people of these countries rather than remain as the 51st State of America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state)!
and it be no mistake that most Europeans are anti unionist and anti globalization! Aw I can tast the Belgian and German beer now and I'll drink to that, just make sure its not the Multinational Breweries _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
I suggest you go to Radio 4 and use the "Listen Again" function. There were several people representing Scottish and English points of view and there seemed to be no denying that Scotland is heavily subsidised by the English taxpayer.
WHAT??? ... you stole our oil for 40 years and you think, YOU SUBSIDISE US!!!
I take it these people were all Tories and Labour people??? THAT FIGURES!
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There seemed to be no denying that Scotland is heavily subsidised by the English taxpayer.
... So you are a convert to the BBC now! Yeah! they speak the truth!
Bongo didn't define who "you" is and who "we" are, when speaking about "stolen" oil. I have never "stolen" anyone's oil and I am not English, nor am I Scottish, unlike most of the population of England. This chauvinistic, hubristic drivel is Nationalism at its worst. Why don't I just agree that you are better than I am because you are one of God's chosen people. Quite why you are nonetheless so stupid you allow "us" to "steal" your oil without barely a whimper of protest I will let pass. Let's just agree that opening up trade with the 5 million or so that makes up the population of Scotland so the 50 million English can benefit is a fair exchange being as the 5 million Scots can sell to the 50 million English, and move to England in their millions over generations. You have been so hard done by Bongo - no wonder you want to go it alone - as long as the European Union is there to bail you out.
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), this is why we (under the wing of our mentors the USA) think we can roam around the world, with our Nuclear arsenal, attacking all those who oppose us (usually the ones with oil 
) will result in the USA losing it's biggest partner in crime.... and we all know how criminals react when they feel threatened and alone... yep they run away!
... you stole our oil for 40 years and you think, 
