Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: To hell and back - video
Dr. Maurice Rawlings, MD, a heart surgeon, has written about the true events of some patients being resuscitated on the operating table and they speak about just having come back from hell.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:22 am Post subject:
Do they mention any insight into who pulled off 9/11?
*sigh*
With respect, and bearing in mind there are many christians amongst the mebers here, we are not an evangelical mission. This thread can go into "other controversies" for now: please dont make a habit of threads of this type _________________ Free your Self and Free the World
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: Control
stelios wrote:
there is nothing christian about going to hell and back
But the concept of Hell is certainly used by christians 'somewhat'.
Of course christians wont go to hell only the non-believers or those who dont follow their particular brand of monotheism get to enjoy hell (apparently).
I thought Hell was on TV at the moment and called 'Big Brother' ?
what the christans don't realise is they are living on hell, all that things i'd imagine hell to be happen to people in the millions day in day out, and what is done? nothing they just increase the amount that have to suffer.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject:
I started watching it, but the gooeyness--for a northerner from UK--was a bit much. But when the guy told about his pet lamb and the pauin he felt after his dad killed it so horribly, I felt really moved. And could see very vclearly how many people go off the rials when their trustingness is savagely abused
But talking about the subject in general. I have a trouble with evangelical literalist Christians. What happens is, the believe in the Bible literally, and fear 'God' and 'hell', but what happens is, they will most often then fear people they believe their precious Bible condemens to hell, like for example people who are Gays........? And people who don't believe in 'Jesus'............SO, what fear of 'hell' can do, and HAS done throughout recorded history is CREATE hells on Earth for many people
However. I Do believe that there are experiences one can have psychologically. The best source to read about this is Dr Stan Grof and his work with LSD and Holotropic Breathing, and Albert Hoffman, and really any researhers who are familiar with psychedelics.
For there do seem to be various heelish and heavenly experiences we can experience, depending on set and setting.
Does this mean that ACTUAL death is same? Maybe, I dunno. But what I do suspect is that nothing is permanent. THAt is the biggest con orthodox religion pulled on people. The idea of 'permanant hell' or 'permanenet heaven'. Life itself is always change. Life is not on its own but is always part of death. hence change is inherent within this everchanging dynamism.
it really is only the Christian belief system that pushed the idea of everlasting hell and damanation _________________ keep asking questions!
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