Hello everybody.

[Louise]

Hello, my name is Louise and i'm new to this forum i'm 36 and i live in Pitsea, but i also look after my dad in Hornchurch.

I have watched many documentarys like Loose Change, Confronting the Evidence, Painful Deceptions etc.

I was watching 911 mysteries last night on my computer, the last part made me cry when i heard those people who were trapped above the point of impact calling their familes on their mobile phones, then i heard the building starting to collapse and their voices just cut off as their lives were sniffed out in an instant.

I do not belive that the building collapsed from fire and the impact of the planes alone, they collapsed to quickly and completely for that.

I have a number of questions and suggestions to put forward to this forum, i'm not quite sure what section i'd put them in but if i make a mistake i apologise.

But i will say what i feel and not pull any punches, the real people that are behind the terrible act of 9/11 need to be caught and in my opinion deserve nothing but death, in fact death maybe too good for those that carried out this act.

To all those professionals who tried so hard on that day to save as many peoples lives as possible you should rightfully be recognised.

And i would like to pass on all my sympathys and thoughts to all the people and reletives that lost loved ones and friends in the 9/11 incident.

I realise that people keeping on about this incident may be very painful and distressing to you.

But this is a VERY, VERY serious crime that has been commited here and we need to make the truth as to the real culprits known to the world, we owe it to all those who died on that day to do this as fitting justice to them and their familys, this is what i feel.

I have also read the document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" by PNAC.

And it makes quite scary reading, but if you read this document then compare it to whats happening in the world then you will see that the US are following and meeting some of the objectives outlined in that document such as very high defence spending.

Also in that document it mentions "a new pearl harbour" this was i think the twin towers.

[ian neal]

Hi Louise and welcome

Plenty to agree about with you.

However 'what the world needs now is love sweet love, not just for you and me but for everyone' and that includes the PNAC psychos and merchants of death behind 9/11 and the war of terror. My solution to this would be to put the lot of them on a deserted island with the very basics of survival and let them squabble amongst themeselves whilst the rest of the world gets on with co-creating a better future.

[Louise]

In addition to my above post i'd like to say this.

The US government and it's associated organisations that being the:

Millitary
Secret Service
CIA
FBI etc.

Are all under DEEP, DEEP suspicion over the 9/11 incident.

And as this is the case NONE of them CAN or SHOULD be trusted in anyway whatsoever, unless such a time can be reached where it can be proved conclusively and concretely that the US goverment and it's associated organisations were not involved in any way, shape or form with the 9/11 incident.

ONLY THEN can trust be restored to the current US administration.

To restore this trust i suggest to the current US administration to co-operate fully with people and make avalible any information and videos that is requested of them without delay or excuses, if you don't then you are just feeding the flames of the suspicion on you.

After all you had nothing to do with it DID YOU????????.

And you've got nothing to hide HAVE YOU????????.

[flamesong]

[blackcat]

They are clearly mentally ill and need treatment. Anyone being brutal to them makes them little different from them. Far better to expose their corrupt ambition and educate people as to the naure of criminal greed which leads to their insane behaviour. We have to learn and try to improve humanity otherwise some will keep repeating this mistake which has happened countless times throughout history to greater and lesser degrees. Expose them as the weak cowardly creatures they really are and let them be seen in a court of justice revealing their feet of clay. Ultimately they see themselves as somehow superior to humanity and they need to be portrayed in a true light as being manifestly inferior and inadequate. That is the punishment they will find hardest to bear.

[Louise]

I'm sorry blackcat but there can be NO excuses for these people and NO sympathy either.

I don't think that these people are mentally ill, how can they be when they pulled off such a big thing like this and try to cover it up the way they have?.

No, these people are just plain evil, and if you let evil live it will grow and spread.

These people have MURDERED nearly 3000 people, why do they deserve to live?.

Remember blackcat, if it was advantagous to them they would take you out as well at a drop of a hat, and it would mean NOTHING to them.

They would also do that to me or anyone else reading this forum, these are evil, ruthless people who did this, 3000 innocent lives being snuffed out is evidence enough of that.

Just remember the people who died on that day, at the start of that day they probably kissed goodbye to their loved ones and told them that they'd see them later not knowing that this was going to be their last day alive.

Imagine the fear and terror that must have been going through the bodys and minds of the people who were trapped above the point of the plane impact.

Such fear and terror that they jumpped from that building knowing that there was NO chance of survival.

I'm afraid i can have NO compassionate feelings at all for these people, sorry.

[paul wright]

[karlos]

Welcome Louise,
Nice to have a plain speaker on board
These people are cold blooded killers
3000 in the world trade center, another 655,000 in Iraq, as well as many more since due to asbestos poisoning in New York and Depleted Uranium in Iraq.
we need to all work together to bring these people to trial and justice

[Louise]

I'd just like to add to this thread that reguarding the second plane that hit the twin towers.

There was something attatched to the underside of the plane, then there was that flash just before it hit the tower, there was also a flash just before the first plane hit the first tower.

I managed to import a picture of the second plane into a graphics package on my computer, then zoomed in to try to get a close look at what was attached to the underside of the plane.

From what i could make out it was long, cylindrical and had a doamed or pointed top to it.

It looked like some sort of torpedo to me.

As reguards the flash it could have been this "Torpedo" going off or it could have been some sort of device that was sending out a signal and the receiving device (whatever that may have been) for those signals could have been planted in the building itself, and when the plane got to within very close range of the receving device the signal strengh from this "torpedo", "pod" call it what you will was so strong that it set off whatever was in the building waiting for it.

So what i am saying in short is that whatever was attached to the underside of that plane could have either been an explosive device or it was sending out signals to trigger something that was planted in the building.

This is a possibility i think.

[Louise]

There is also something else i have only just noticed, i was looking at the collapse of one of the towers (the one with the TV antenna on the top of it).

I think that this was the tower that fell second yet it was hit first.

You have to be very quick and sharp eyed to catch it but you can see just below where the plane hit and just as the building starts to collapse, at least 2 of those squibs as they are called shooting out of the building on at least 2 sides, and they all seemed to be on the same floor.

I am no demolition expert but i know that they use the natrual force of gravity a lot in demolitions.

You blow away the supporting stucture just enough to make it top heavy then gravity takes over from there, you then place explosives further down to help the collapse.

But whoever planted these explosives must have had to have studyied in fine detail, the blueprints and plans of the world trade centre.

They would have had to do this to work out exactly where to place those explosives because all building are different so what would work for one building might not work for another.

So who had access to, or was studying the plans and blueprints of the world trade centre?.

How would you go about obtaining the blueprints and plans of a building?.

And would the fact that you have taken those blueprints for study be recorded somewhere?.

Could this tell us who might have demolished the building?.

[karlos]

Remember George Bush's brother's security company were in charge of security for the WTC and the weekend before 911 were rewiring the building - they claimed with broadband cables - but more likely explosives

[mediadisbeliever]

Welcome Louise,
Well, the whole nightmare of 9/11 has got me mad too and I had to take some time out from this whole thing as I couldn't stop thinking about it. I was telling everyone and felt like the only crusader in town prepared to stop people and take * for even mentioning the subject. A lot of people know, but don't give a F***!

The more I read and hear about it, the angrier I get and it should be getting everyone else like that too. Louise, I'm really pleased that you have taken a more militant approach to lynching these b****** because that is what it is going to take...determination and aggression. They are the enemy and in the end the only way to defeat the enemy is by brute force! Ok, this may seem "meat-headish" but are we going to wait for first-past-the post in 1000 yrs time to regain a semblence of moral control. Oh Please People!

Lets take an example from modern history...The Russian(October) Revolution (no I'm not a Commie) turned 1000 years of Serdom into a Workers' State and enabled the Socialist model to become a reality until the beginning of its destruction by Stalin (forming a Bureaucratic Dictatorship in the name of communism). Now, how was this achieved? Not purely by Marxist theorists winning the political battle, but by the efficient organisation of a fighting force (or workers of Bolsheviks) to apply militant pressure. This as we know was in the form of mass strikes which gathering pace led to the development of a consciousness that power could indeed could be taken by force. Today, these people would have been called Terrorists for attempting to fight for a better future.

So, my point is ...whoever is reading this...that history repeats itself (not talking about another communist revolutuon, but about the movement of people and the power it has). Once this power is realised it is a beast.
This is why I feel that purely telling people is not enough, you need militancy too. If it was up to most people we would still be here talking about it in 50 years having achieved nothing!

[Divex]

Brute force is exactly what they want. what better excuse to lock people up than riots.Cos they can spin it on the news any way the like......best just carry on exposing them until their own people turn them in to save themselves

This is what usually happens!!!!!!!!!!

[Zabooka]

Good Greetings and Warm Welcome to the Forums Louise.

From the initial readings, seems you have come to know quite a few of the 9/11 Truth issues, pretty deeply I might add.

The only thing I would like to add, is to keep up to date with new happenings in the world of 9/11 Truth by logging onto www.911blogger.com
and also to check out PilotsFor911Truth's "Pandora's Black Box" - its the latest on Flight 77 and the 'PentaCon'... the PentaCon being another newer documentary made by a sister group of PilotsFor911Truth.


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