GCHQ can listen when your phone is off the hook

[outsider]

Google in <Yvonne Ridley>, go to her site, and then to 'Spooksville', which has YouTube clip. I've brought this up before, and one of our members contributed the useful idea that covering the phone with silver paper saves taking the battery out (but only while you are discussing 'highly incriminating dastardly plans', of course!). As Craig Murray plainly states in his excellent book, 'Murder in Samarkand', it's not only the FBI that has the facility.

[Emmanuel]

Spooky indeedy

http://www.yvonneridley.org/spookitem.php?id=3

[Craig W]

I am genuinely shocked at that clip. It is outrageous.

It reminded me of this piece about the internal microphones in computers that can be used for eavesdropping on computer users.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/060906spyon.htm

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/03/google_eavesdropping_software/

While both these articles pertain to the USA, we know that what happens there is likley to be happening here or will be soon. It seems likely that the same backdoor facilities will be present within mobile phones and computers in the UK and elsewhere and, if that is the case, you can bet that intel agencies, corporations, etc will be wanting to use them.

These are gross invasions of privacy that I'd bet 99% of the population are completely unaware of.

[Emmanuel]

Thanks Craig.
I love synchronicity.
Its been a Charles Bukowski week.

I am not suprised if there is a propensity for this to be used in the Uk.
I had a friend who used to make music with scanners and they pick up conversations very easily.
The microphones in newer computers are very likely to be on too.

[outsider]

[Thermate]

[paul wright]

[outsider]

[karlos]

If you guys want to be healthy
throw away the microwave oven
it really is the worst thing you can cook with, burning your food with petrol is more healthy.

I cannot see why they would want to be listening to us while we are at home?
If they want to intercept calls, or if they want to place a bugging device they have the legal go ahead to do it nowadays.

In any case surely they wont want to target 911 truthers who are after all peace campaigners

[malcks]

we already know this,the only way to beat it is to remove the battery

[Thermate]

[outsider]

[Disco_Destroyer]

A bucket of water is always a good solution to those little annoying ringing devices

[outsider]

[xmasdale]

[Frazzel]

test the foil for mobiles, unplug the landline and dont talk in the room that the computer is in.
any other advice that someone has?
all useful stuff.
Nb read Andy McNabs books even his fiction ones for some hints how they may watch or follow.
However i think you can end up too paranoid - the important thing is to keep doing what youre doing dont let them make you afraid as thats what they want!
f

[Mark Gobell]

I just put my mobile in the microwave and it still works.

Wrapped it in foil and I can't get through !

Can still text to it in the foil though !

Bizarre !

It just goes to prove the old adage for us CTers at least:

Keep it under your hat !

There's a host of anti-electrosmog products here at Healthy House, including RF proof paint & curtains !

http://www.healthy-house.co.uk/products/electromagnetic_and_radiation_ protection.php

[outsider]

Minding my own business, listening to the record-player and doing the washing up this morning, when all of a sudden the answerphone burst into life. I was nowhere near it, and the phone hadn't rung. Immediately suspicious, I rung 1471, and sure enough, the last call recorded was the previous day. On listening to the 'message', there was muffled music, probably the music I had been playing but I couldn't be sure.

As most of us know, you only get 'clicks' on the phone if 'they' want you to know you're being bugged. I get silent or malicious calls most every day, combined with post problems. As Alfred E. Newman (or is it Neuman?) would say, 'Wot? Me worry?'

[outsider]

Following my Sunday post, I was in bed when, at 00.20 Monday morning, one of my two burglar alarms went off (even though it wasn't 'armed', or switched on). Also, the whole of the system is indoors, so there was no physical interference possible.

Wouldn't it be an idea to have part of the forum for supporters to document 'dirty tricks', or otherwise inexplicable occurences, so that we can compare notes and be aware?

[rodin]

[Harassed]

Hello all,
I don't know quite if I'm posting this in the right topic but here's some stuff to show that there is some quite simple and affordable technology quite openly available to hate-groups,creepy neighbours or any weirdo psycho bully....

Ultrasonic devices :http://www.amazing1.com/ultra.htm
Revenge devices :http://www.spymall.com/catalog/revenge.htm
Sonic nausea :http://www.telstarone.com/cs_sonic_nausea.htm

Organised stalking is happening.

[TonyGosling]

This legal disclosure also seems to suggest that supposedly switched off phones are used by the police, security services and private investigators as roving bugs.

FBI taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping tool

By Declan McCullagh and Anne Broache
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: December 1, 2006, 2:20 PM PST

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update The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.

The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

Nextel cell phones owned by two alleged mobsters, John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso, were used by the FBI to listen in on nearby conversations. The FBI views Ardito as one of the most powerful men in the Genovese family, a major part of the national Mafia.

The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.

Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set. ..........

http://www.news.com/FBI-taps-cell-phone-mic-as-eavesdropping-tool/2100 -1029_3-6140191.html

[malcks]

tried the miocrowave (switched off!!)put my mobile inside,phoned it and guess what? nothing,dead. so that works, the only problem is carrying the thing around its a tad heavy

[outsider]

[xmasdale]

[simplesimon]

outsider wrote:

[Dallas]

[outsider]

[outsider]

Here's another article from 'Prison Planet' :

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/december2006/021206FBI.htm

[outsider]

And another from Financial Times:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4239e29e-02f2-11da-84e5-00000e2511c8.html