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Nanny Rose
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 Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: Please support my campaign! |
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This is a quick bit of info to suport a thread i posted in the campaigning section!
I have a plan, but it will only work if i get some support.
PLease take a look at:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=9215 |
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The Watcher
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Scam or Spam |
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Nanny Rose:
It may come as a bit of a surprise to you that there are already a large number of contributors, to this (& other 9/11 related) sites, who have been doing exactly what you propose for the past few years. Just go along to any 9/11 or Truth event and you will find a great range of DVD's available ... all of which have been lovingly copied by an active 9/11 Truth campaigner.
If you are proposing to copy beaucoup de 9/11 DVD's for free distribution, my advice is "Don't waste your money". As far as I am concerned it is proven beyond any reasonable doubt that freebies don't get watched. If you want to research this phenomenon for yourself, take a trip to Sedgefield (TB's constituency); Jimmy Walter arranged for about 17,000 copies of Confronting the Evidence to be posted through the towns letter boxes, in the run up to the 2005 General Election. Walk down the high street on a Saturday and randomly ask the local residents if they have watched it. Don't be too surprised if you don't get into double figures!
The optimum price for selling DVD copies seems to be somewhere in the region of £2/£3; that way you get a return on your investment and you increase the chances of the DVD being watched by a zillion fold!
Now if you really want to pollute the planet (or even just the UK) with unwatched DVD's, you are of course at liberty to do so. However, might I suggest that getting cash-strapped 9/11 activists to contribute to your DVD burner fund (+ DVD printer no doubt), when you are a complete unknown quantity, is perhaps a tad ambitious!
How about you do what most of us have done. To help you out, here's a simple business plan:
- Start small; copy DVD's on a single burner
- Sell them @ £2/£3 and use the profit to put towards a low-end multi burner & DVD Printer. see www.bigpockets.co.uk
- Arrange local 9/11 events (or just sell them on the streets) until you have accumulated enough profit to to by your mega-buck high-end DVD burner.
Alternatively, set up a local 9/11 group and persuade them to support your project ... but be sure to be clear as to where the profits are going!
Nanny Rose, I's sure this is not quite the response you expected but I for one will NOT be contributing to your scheme.
BTW, who are you? Tell us a bit about your 9/11 Truth track record.
Also posted at: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=72735#72735
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Nanny Rose
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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I've also cross posted as i see that you have, but i would appreciate it if we could keep any discusion not related to actioning my actual plan here, so the original thread doesn't get cluttered. Thanks. 
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| The Watcher wrote: | | Nanny Rose, I's sure this is not quite the response you expected but I for one will NOT be contributing to your scheme. |
Fair enough The Watcher. It's definately not the response i expected, but you are entitled to your opinion. I completely disagree with you and think you've misunderstood a few things. What's worse than that is that anyone who may want to get involved with this will be less likely to do so having read your negative post. 
| The Watcher wrote: | | It may come as a bit of a surprise to you that there are already a large number of contributors, to this (& other 9/11 related) sites, who have been doing exactly what you propose for the past few years |
Really? I haven't seen anything here or elsewhere discussing doing as i propose. Perhaps if there's an open forum thread, you wouldn't mind pointing me in the right direction?
I totally recognise that there are many people who are campaigning to get the truth out about 911 and related issuses, so yes, that part is no surprise to me. I was of course hoping that such people would be prepared to pitch in and help out if they can. There's no way i can carry out this project all on my own.
| The Watcher wrote: | | Jimmy Walter arranged for about 17,000 copies of Confronting the Evidence to be posted |
So 1 person that we know of did a mass distribution of a dvd. Who else has done something on that scale?
My humble suggestion was that we try to organise a group of people who are prepared to concentrate on 1 small town and try to raise awareness. We distribute a dvd to every household in the town, and spend a week campaigning in town centres in the hope that people will watch it and look to learn more. Our fire is concentrated in one place, so that we try and reach a critical mass where we get the whole town talking about it. Even if they're saying, what are those crazy 911 conpiracy nuts going on about, it may well make many of them watch the film, including the skeptics who may well realise they have been wrong!
Just because it didn't work previously in your opinion, doesn't mean to say that it is not worth trying again, or that infact it didn't raise awareness or infact have a very good postive (although unquantified) effect. You can't know what effect it had. I don't see the need to just pour negativity into what i have proposed.
| The Watcher wrote: | | The optimum price for selling DVD copies seems to be somewhere in the region of £2/£3; that way you get a return on your investment and you increase the chances of the DVD being watched by a zillion fold! |
That's fantastic and i'm sure you have that covered. In my opinion many (although not all) people that are going to buy copies are already well on their way to 911 truth. Are these the people we want to reach?
I want to reach new people who wouldn't stumble across 911 truth in a million years if it wasn't put in their face. The key is a week long campaign in the town, protesting, getting the media down there, getting people talking etc. I don't just want to stick some dvd through a letterbox hoping it will get watched and forget about it. I want a big group of us down there talking to the public and the media for a whole week and though our campaigning, get the public talking.
There will be many people who will hear about what we've been doing and will get into discussions with others. For those that do discuss things either with us or between themsleves, there's a dvd with some good information at their fingertips. Trying to talk to people on the streets armed with dvd's is not enough in my opinion.
I am not expecting that people are going to find a dvd in their letterbox, pick it up and watch it, and then go on to try to save humanity the next day.
Perhaps you misunderstood what i was proposing, although i did think it was quite clear?
| The Watcher wrote: | | BTW, who are you? Tell us a bit about your 9/11 Truth track record |
I'm just a normal everyday guy who hates that our freedoms are being taken away piece by piece. I hate even more that it is being done in such an insidious incremental way under the pretext of flase-flag terror attacks. I hate even more the fact that the public have been so dumbed-down, so lied to by our controlled media, and so caught up in their materialistic outlook, that they can't even see the prison fences being built in front of their eyes.
I've spent a number of years learning about this stuff, and now i want to try to give something back to humanity and try my best to make a small difference in any way I can. If you're asking what 911 groups i'm a member of and what i've done similar to what you suggest you have been doing, then the answer is that i'm not a member of any groups. I try to speak to friends and family to help them to see whats going on, in the hope that they will spread the seed of truth further.
| Quote: | | when you are a complete unknown quantity |
I do take your point. I'm not completely unknown to people on this site however.
I've been out for a few beers to talk about our views on many occasions with mason-free party who is one of your well known members. We first met nearly 2 years ago after some PM discussion over at the lets roll forum. I'm sure he'll post up to vouch for me when he sees this thread.
| The Watcher wrote: | It may come as a bit of a surprise to you
Now if you really want to pollute the planet |
That kind of attitude is really unnecessary. If you agree or disagree with what i'm proposing at least i'm not proposing sitting on my arse and doing nothing. I'm sure it would be agreed that the tone of your post isn't what one would expect from a fellow poster with a shared goal.
| The Watcher wrote: | - Start small; copy DVD's on a single burner
- Sell them @ £2/£3 and use the profit to put towards a low-end multi burner & DVD Printer. see www.bigpockets.co.uk
- Arrange local 9/11 events (or just sell them on the streets) until you have accumulated enough profit to to by your mega-buck high-end DVD burner.
Alternatively, set up a local 9/11 group and persuade them to support your project ... but be sure to be clear as to where the profits are going! |
I'm not bothered about profits. It's not a model that i believe in.
I'm not asking for donations to buy my "mega-buck high-end DVD burner". I said quite clearly, if people can pledge support so i know it will be fully utilised, i'll buy it with my own money as my donation to this project. I think it would be an incredible resource for the 911 and related truth communities and i'm offering to buy it and put it to good use. Before i do so, i want to be sure that i'm not going to own a £3000 high-tec looking ornament collecting dust in my cupboard under the stairs.
Infact the burner, i hope, would be running 24/7/365. Anytime its not being used for anything i'm involved in it would be making dvd's for any activists that want any quantity. I'm sure there would be plenty of people here who would be pleased to contact me and have all the documentaries they need burned for them from someone who is getting it done for them for no profit.
| The Watcher wrote: | | getting cash-strapped 9/11 activists to contribute to your DVD burner fund (+ DVD printer no doubt), |
I am asking cash strapped activists to contribute the disks themselves. I've made it quite clear that i will buy the burner with my own money if i can get enough people to say, "i'll buy 1000 blank disks, or help hand them out, or help to spend some time on the streets campaigning".
Infact i expect that different people will have different abilities. Some people will say i'm really busy with work and have no time but i would love to help to buy 1000 disks (or 100 or whatever) if someone can get them out there. Others might say i have no money, but do have time and i can spare a couple of days to campaign on the streets.
I'm saying that i believe in this strongly enough that i will spend £3000 of my hard earned cash (and trust me i'm no Jimmy Walter) to provide us the means to burn all the dvd's we need, and i'll spend a week somewhere campaigning on the streets and delivering dvd's. I'm asking for anyone who has some spare money, be it £100 or a fiver, and anyone has some spare time, to post up some support and come and help me.
I'm not asking for cash, i'm asking for people to pledge to place a dvd order.
Is that a bad idea, or infact anything that different from what you do already?
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Now, getting back on track.......
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Are there any people here who are able to pledge to donate 1000 blank dvd's for £99? How about 100 disks for £10? Even if you can only afford £9.99 for 100, if we get 300 people to donate £10 worth or 30 to donate £100 worth we will have a major part of this plan covered. If you can please post your suport
Are there any people here who have some spare time? If you can spare your one day off in the week (if you have one), or a weekend, or you're unemployed and would be happy to spend a week on the streets speading the word, please post your support.
Thanks and Regards
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kc
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Whilst you're waiting for the money for your DVD burner to come in you could always give something back to Humanity by collecting for Amnesty at weekends or helping our with the PDSA.
As for a burner, you can get a 20X drive with Lightscribe technology (prints your cover all in the one unit using special lightscribe disks) from amazon.co.uk for under £30 delivered. |
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Nanny Rose
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| kc wrote: | | Whilst you're waiting for the money for your DVD burner to come in you could always give something back to Humanity by collecting for Amnesty at weekends or helping our with the PDSA. |
With the greatest of respect, you clearly didn't read what i posted. |
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