A journey in logic

[plane son on 911]

Please humour me on this one, you may find the outcome very interesting.

A series of logical questions to follow one at a time, the nature of the subsequent question will depend on the answers received from the preceding one.

Answers please from as many of you as possible

Question 1.

Given that the official conspiracy theory throughout the truth movement is widely accepted to be a pack of lies and full of holes do you believe that the perps planned it that way and knew it would be rumbled or do you think they were just very careless?

[telecasterisation]

[Stefan]

I believe they knew the media was in their palm, and counted on that endlessly useful propaganda term "conspiracy theorists" to discredit those who pointed it out, and this gave them incredible hubris.

I don't think they counted on the internet becoming what it has.

But ultimatley they didn't care if a few people noticed, most would call them nutters.

The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it and all that.

[Stefan]

It’s pretty clear what you are trying to lead up to here and it doesn’t fly.

Your idea is that they planned people to think the WTC was hit with planes and then demolished with a combination of explosives and metal cutting agents, to throw the scent off it being hit by nothing and then being destroyed with a directed energy weapon.

Let me ask you – is killing 3000 people with explosives less of a crime than killing 3000 people with a DEW? Is hitting a building with aircraft less of a crime than setting off an explosion inside?

No.

There needs to be some purpose towards implementing a red herring, if the crime they would be trying to lead us to was not a lesser crime, as it was not, there needs to be another purpose – for instance the ability to disprove it at a drop of a hat to discredit those who followed it, or to insert a notion which would sound so ridiculous to the general public that it would be ignored.

Can they disprove CD at the drop of a hat?

No.

Which theory currently doing the rounds would sound so ridiculous to the general public it would be ignored?

Do I have to answer that?

In my mind TV Fakery has its roots in disinformation, and many of the videos use clear mind control techniques – flashing imagery, repeated phrases, and intrusive unpredictable music.

One video I found recently is entitled “Plane Huggers Hate America” and features multi-layered and coloured flickering images, evil clown faces super imposed on to the Loose Change crew, layer and confusing voices and the continually repeated message “Plane Huggers Hate America”.

There is no information in this video, it is simply an assault on the senses and a clear attempt to stir up hate and mistrust amongst 9/11 Truth activists.

Be careful Plane Son, I’m not accusing you of anything, I just think you need to look at the medium this message is coming in, and the message itself a lot more carefully.

[plane son on 911]

Just a simple question Stefan, I just want to know if people think the perps expected the OCT to be rumbled, you have not answered that question, what are you afraid of in answering it?

You lot are worse than blasted politicians answer the question ffs.

[rodin]

[Stefan]

Plane Son,
I answered in my first post then commented on your transparent train of thought in my second:

To repeat:

They would have expected a small percentage to notice, but they knew that with their control of the media and the handy propaganda term "conspiracy theorist" it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to their ambitions what a few "outsiders" might be saying to each other.

They clearly didn't count on the internet being such a powerful force, and I believe the next big FF attack will come with a ready made excuse to take internet freedom from us.

[plane son on 911]

Stefan please answer the question a yes or no will do

Did the perps expect the OCT to be rumbled?

[Stefan]

Plane Son,
I answered you - unless I misread your question and you were asking:

"Did they expect EVERY PERSON ON THE PLANET to work it out"

The answer to which would be no.

For the final time, I repeat:

They probably thought a few people would work it out, but with the media in their control and the propaganda term "conspiracy theorist" to cover their arses they didn't worry to much about it.

Now you can keep pretending not to hear that I have answered you now THREE TIMES, or you could stop embarrasing your self and the conversation can move on.

What I take it you are alluding to here is "a plan so cunning it's stupid":

They construct very solid and damning evidence of a completley believable conspiracy theory which has the power to sweep around the world and change peoples perception...

...as a way of covering up a conspiracy which there was no evidence for in the first place and was so ridiculous sounding that no one would ever take it seriously?

A master piece.

[plane son on 911]

Can somebody please translate that answer into a yes or no

[flamesong]

[rodin]

Did you not read my post?

I think the idea is to keep a lid on 911 until the US has been further weakened, before going in for the kill. We could see a concerted attack as follows

1) Financial Crash
2) Blame Bush & co for 911 (bagholders) thereby collapsing US admin
3) Force US into a North American Union with Canada and Mexico

All very Marxian and a great move towards one world government (ie dictatorship of the tribe at the top)

So the fact that 911 was a false flag is meant to come out at a time of their choosing. To max benefit for them.

What will not come out easily is who really did 911.

Would you care to respond?

[plane son on 911]

Rodin

I agree with everything you said.

They made deliberate mistakes in order to get rumbled over a period of time.

The truth movement are helping the perps by adopting their alternative official conspiracy theory which will lead to the real perps getting away with it.

[Stefan]