Blue Watch relive the bomb hell inside carriage 346A

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The "Blue Watch" article does not give a train number. Instead it describes the train as the 8.51am service. This can only be taken as an actual departure time, since the trains were running late. It also describes the train as follows:

"It was the 48th such service to leave London's busiest tube station that morning, each carriage crammed with commuters, many reading the newspaper coverage of London's Olympic triumph the previous day."

However it does give a carriage number, 346A. It is mentioned no less than 11 times, including the title. 346A is described as the first carriage twice. But car 346 cannot be the first carriage. It can only be the third or fourth from the front. In addition it is a D car.

Car 346A cannot exist.

Later on in the article we have:

"The call-out that came at 9.04am on 7 July seemed as routine as they come. Roche and his crew boarded engine Alpha 242 and set off. In his hand a strip of tickertape read: 'Smoke issuing at Euston Square tube' alongside the order that they should head as back-up to King's Cross nearby. They remember the traffic being bad. By the time they pulled upoutside King's Cross, it was 9.13am.

Seventeen minutes earlier, three bombs had crippled the network but, as Roche trooped on to the station concourse, his was the only emergencyvehicle parked outside the network's most vital hub."

Seventeen minutes before 9.13am is 8.56am, the original time given for the Piccadilly Line explosion. The article was written in October.

This is so odd it can hardly be explained away as sloppy journalism. It has been carefully crafted.

Discussion on uk.transport.london has yielded some extra information.

The train was first identified as 311, then over the weekend this was changed to 331. A very knowledgeable person told me that 346A is a nonsense, 346 would be a D car either the third or the fourth carriage. As far as I can gather train 331 was made up as follows:

166-566-366-417-617-217 with 166 in front.

346 would indeed have (still has!) leading car 146.

Does 346 belong to train 311? We would then have 146-546-346 as a half-train.

As the trains are allocated their 'running numbers' on the day, and frequently have to be reformed throughout the day for service requirements anyway, it's unlikely anyone would know now if 146 was in the consist of 311 on that day.

331 is booked to go westbound through Kings X at 0829. Bearing in mind that we'd just had a big shutdown that morning at Caledonian Road then the train would be running late, which I gather it was. The eastbound, where the defective train was, had a 31 minute delay and the westbound delay was about 20 minutes.

Does the working timetable say whether 311 is booked westbound through King's Cross around 0830?

It says: 0641 to Uxbridge and 1015 to Heathrow, but as I said earlier 331 was booked through at that time.

It takes 80 minutes minimum to get to Uxbridge from Cockfosters, another 45 minutes minimum to get back to King's Cross. At around 0850 to 0900 is it scheduled to be heading eastbound through King's Cross?

Book says 0908 but because of the aforementioned shenanigans further east I would suspect very, very late at that point as the smell of burning was on the eastbound.

If it was running to timetable it would be far west of King's Cross.

Is it possible to find out the number of the 48th westbound service through King's Cross?

Including the 5 booked engineers trains, 316 at 0754 - that is one well late train, the 48th passenger only would be 324 at 0806 1/2.

The actual bombed train was the 62nd train of the day including engineers or 57th without.

Did all 57 booked trains run? Could 9 or so trains have been cancelled? What were the numbers of the trains before and after 331?

Could 311 have been turned around short of Uxbridge? Or was it turned around quicker than usual at Uxbridge?

At this point the discussion came to an end.

TrackerNet is operational on part of the Piccadilly Line. 311 should be shown on it.

Car 346 is still in in use. So what were Blue Watch inside of that had a number 346?

Set your stopwatch going and see how long it takes you to come up with a possible answer.

Blue Watch relive the bomb hell inside carriage 346A

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1588239,00.html

[Linda]

7/7 survivors find comfort on the net


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1676054,00.html


Rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com

http://www.rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/

Monday, January 02, 2006
If you are a conspiracy theorist

Do us all a favour and read this Channel 4 News debunking of one of your more popular theories, which is that the London bombings were an 'exercise' run by Peter Power of Visor consultants, possibly involving the bombers conscripted as dupes, and there were no bombs on the Underground, but instead a 'power surge'. Just read it.

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[Justin]

I have just put this on Rachel of North London's blogsite (http://www.rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com)
to try and redress the balance:

Justin Walker said...
I am writing this contribution with some trepidation after reading how anyone who questions the official 7/7 story is assigned immediately to the looney bin. I realise there are some anorak nutters who are not doing serious researchers like myself any favours at all. However, I am a former British Army officer trained in countering terrorism as well as having been trained in disaster planning and response. It is through my contacts in disaster management that I am now convinced that the official story of 9/11 is nothing but a pack of lies from beginning to end. Three of my contacts were actually in the Twin Towers on 9/11 and actually witnessed explosives being used to bring the Towers down. No steel framed building anywhere in the world has ever been brought down by fire - except World Trade Centre buildings 1 and 2 (Twin Towers) and 7. Heard of 7? If you haven't, feed in WTC7 on a search engine and see the proof that the neo-conservatives in America carried out 9/11 in order to carry out a much larger agenda. Just remember Adolf Hitler had the Reichstag burnt down in 1933 to blame it on his main political rivals at the time - the Communists. There is nothing new about false flag operations - they are as old as warfare is itself. Just ask that age old question at all times. Cui bono? Who benefits? Go to www.nineeleven.co.uk and www.reopen911.org to see the evidence we are accumulating. Iran will almost certainly be attacked this year by America and/or Israel as part of this neo-con agenda - there will probably be another 9/11 false flag op with a planted evidence trail leading directly to Tehran. It is all about oil and maintaining the military industrial complex.

As regards 7/7, I can understand your anger with halfwit contributions from ill informed people. Yes, the emergency services were magnificent on the day and I think it great that you are all meeting and sharing your experiences. I just ask one thing - please do not be blind to other possibilities concerning the London attacks. I have good friends and colleagues who are studying 7/7 with a fine toothcomb and there are some serious questions to be asked. You are therefore absolutely right - a Public Inquiry into 7/7 is definitely needed.

With all best wishes for the New Year

Justin Walker

9:08 AM

[ian neal]

Regarding Rachel I would recommend not expending a lot of energy trying to change her beliefs. Judging by her posts the boards linked below (as badger kitten) she is not willing to consider alternative theories re 7/7 and 9/11 and so you are likely to be wasting your time. When it comes to rational debate you will find debate on u75 or with Rachel to be a frustrating experience. As an example she equates holding suspicions re 7/7 to calling her eye witness testimony lies (which it clearly isn't). Just my advice like. Happy new year to one and all

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=143765

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=145854

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[brian]

Someone referred to this below recently but I cant recall the thread.

It is an article about Fed open market operations which illustrates the activity prior to July bombings, a possible implication being US Fed authorities had prior knowledge.

Extract

--"The terrorist attacks in London took place on Thursday. The Fed dramatically increased the pool of liquidity available for stocks to a multi-year high 48 hours before that---an ideal amount of time for that liquidity to filter into the market---and kept it elevated for the next few days. And indeed, it worked.

Why did the Fed do this? Was it just another coincidence in our financial markets that somehow managed to immediately precede a major geopolitical event?"---

http://cunningrealist.blogspot.com/2005/07/following-money.html

[doogal]

also dont forget the short selling of the pound in the 10 days running up to 7/7

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45312

[ian neal]

[sr4470]

The explosives were definitely military in origin - why else are the victims bodies so mangled that they cant be identified?

[Linda]

http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_rachelnorthlondon_arc hive.html

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Ian wrote

Regarding Rachel I would recommend not expending a lot of energy trying to change her beliefs. Judging by her posts the boards linked below (as badger kitten) she is not willing to consider alternative theories re 7/7 and 9/11 and so you are likely to be wasting your time. When it comes to rational debate you will find debate on u75 or with Rachel to be a frustrating experience. As an example she equates holding suspicions re 7/7 to calling her eye witness testimony lies (which it clearly isn't). Just my advice like. Happy new year to one and all


I Agree with Ian.

Why are there so many postings taking up space on this subject?

Rachel clearly does not get our point of view on the big deception she was caught up in on that day.

We all know it was an inside job, we all know exercises were going on at the stations. Stations were policed long before the bombs exploded.

People turning up at those stations at 6.30am were wondering what was going on.

The only bus diverted HAD a BOMB ON BOARD.
JUST A COINCIDENCE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

METAL COMING UP THROUGH THE TRAIN CLEARLY SAYS THE BOMBS WERE UNDER THE TRAIN.

RACHEL IS NOT GOING TO ACCEPT OUR VIEWS AND RESEARCH OFFERED TO HER ON A PLATE. STARING HER IN THE FACE.

LINDA.

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@ Linda