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mason-free party Moderate Poster
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 765 Location: Staffordshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: Hezerkhani 9/11 amateur video is now proven to be a fraud |
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Hey guys.. has anyone researched the Hezerkhani connection? He's the guy who apparently video'd the second plane 'hitting' the 2nd Tower. The first video has the close-ups where you see the plane 'vanishing' into the building. The second video is a short investigation into who Hezerhkanis. Pretty disturbing, if you can get over the gravelly -movie-trailer type talkover. (who IS that guy?) Hopefully these links will work..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOeNUax-gaw
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpyBtOT1l2k
if they don't just copy the URL into the address bar.. it's good info... _________________ http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/part_6.html |
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John White Site Admin
Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 3187 Location: Here to help!
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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CONTROVERSIES!
This is a NPT argument and you know it MFP _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Why isn't the 9/11 controverties on the front page/latest topics? |
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mason-free party Moderate Poster
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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mason-free party wrote: | stephen wrote: | Why isn't the 9/11 controverties on the front page/latest topics? |
maybe the 'gatekeepers' want to keep it hidden? |
What 9/11 footage HASN'T had hysterical claims of being proved fake followed by a character attack from the NPT camp? WAYYY to obvious, and drivel in this case as always
There is a splendid NPT theory forum I understand: I'm not forcing you to post here: but you can't deal with how this site is run, its your problem, not mine
Sad to see you getting sucked into this fruit loop Stephen: oh well, can't win 'em all
And MFP, why don't you do a poll "do you reckon NPT is credible?": even pulling in all the multi ID's etc, bet you can't get a result over 10%: and more likely 5%
Thats becuase it simply doesnt stand up, as anyone whose got their left brain in reasonable balance with their right brain can easily discern with some simple Q's _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 4529
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi MFP.
I'm guessing your folks already have access to the UN document featured in the video but here's a link to it in case you don't
http://www.unhchr.ch/Huridocda/Huridoca.nsf/0/47b4e5537fb89dc7802566ff 003fa242?Opendocument
and it's text:
UN HCR wrote: | J. Terrorist activities
Paragraph 80
As mentioned earlier in connection with the reply to paragraph 27 (see section A above), is an elaboration of the background of the Mojahedin Khalq Organization (MKO) terrorist campaign against the people of the Islamic Republic of Iran. In this connection it is noteworthy to refer to the information provided in the letter of the Permanent Mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the United Nations Office in Geneva dated 4 October 1994 regarding the outcome of the careful investigations by law enforcement officers into the recent labyrinthine atrocities instigated by MKO in the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the bombing of the Holy Shrine of Imam Reza (P.B.U.H.) in Mashhad on 20 June, and the assassination of Iranian Christian clerics.
It should be added here that Mr. Mohammed Seyyed-ol-Mohhadesin, a well-known terrorist of the foreign relations of MKO, at a London gathering on 25 October 1992 of the members of the British branch of that organization, declared:
"It's about 10 years that we have been establishing an internal command center for directing the kind of operations such as the recent bomb explosions you have witnessed in Iran ..." b/
Another top MKO terrorist, Mr. Manuchehr Hezarkhani stated at the same gathering:
"We have chosen the method of coercion to fight against the Islamic Republic of Iran and dare to be called hotheads for that ..." c/
Although these remarks were made from the heartbeat of world news - London - and despite the plethora of prima facie evidence of the criminal nature of MKO, they have been treated by certain international circles in a manner that has cultivated and enhanced their zest for bloodshedding.
The abundance of facts, intelligence and even outspoken statements made by MKO leaders and members, along with undeniable documents open to examination by the relevant responsible international organizations, leave no doubt that terror, torture and any inhuman action is considered valid and legitimate by the rules governing MKO activities.
The recent ploy of MKO to create and fan religious division and hatred in the Islamic Republic of Iran, had it not been foiled by the Government, could have resulted in a widening circle of tragedy, spilling over into other countries and endangering peace. |
Are we sure that this is the same Manuchehr Hezarkhani ? (also spelt Manoochehr Hezarkhani)
And are we sure that he is related to the video recordist Michael Hezarkhani who is credited with recording the footage at Battery Park on 9/11 ?
The same, Iranian, Manuchehr Hezarkhani who is / was a member of the Iranian Writers Association ?
Foreign Affairs Committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran wrote: | The Mojahedin grew in popularity and political strength, despite the many restrictions imposed on their activities by the new regime, and continuing arrests of and attacks on their supporters and members.21 In 1980, they nominated Massoud Rajavi for President of the republic. Less than a year after the shah's fall, all opposition political groups supported Rajavi's candidacy. In his book, The Iranian Mojahedin, Ervand Abrahamian writes:
Rajavi's candidacy was not only endorsed by the Mojahedin- affiliated organizations... ; but also by an impressive array of independent organizations including the Feda'iyan, the National Democratic Front, the Kurdish Democratic Party, the Kurdish Toilers Revolutionary Party (Komula), the Society of Iranian Socialists, the Society for the Cultural and Political Rights of the Turkomans, the Society of Young Assyrians, and the Joint Group of Armenian, Zoroastrian and Jewish Minorities. Rajavi also received the support of a large number of prominent figures: Taleqani's widow; Shaykh Ezeddin Hosayni, the spiritual leader of the Sunni Kurds in Mahabad; Hojjat al-Islam Jalal Ganjehi...; fifty well-known members of the Iranian Writers' Association, including the economist Naser Pakdaman, the essayist Manuchehr Hezarkhani and the secular historians Feraydun Adamiyyat and Homa Nateq; and, of course, many of the families of the early Mojahedin martyrs, notably the Hanif-nezhads, Rezais, Mohsens, Badizadegans, Asgarizadehs, Sadeqs, Meshkinfams, and Mihandusts. The Mojahedin had become the vanguards of the secular opposition to the Islamic Republic.22 |
http://www.iran-e-azad.org/english/special/chap6.html
Who is also a member of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI)
http://www.mojahedin.ws/article/show.php?id=1332 _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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Hagbard Celine Minor Poster
Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Oxford UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I'd be interested to see if the film, as it has been shown to us, is cropped in any way, to focus our attention on the plane hitting the building.
The Zapruder film is usually shown in its cropped form with the area of Kennedy being shot zoomed in. But if you watch the uncropped version you can see that the driver, Stephen Greer, turns round to face him and some people claim he has a pistol in his hand which he uses to then kill the president with the fatal head shot. _________________ "Lynda, you're sweet. From what I've seen of your world, do you think anybody votes for sweet?"
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Hagbard Celine Minor Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Correction: the driver was called William Greer. Stephen Greer is the UFO disclosure guy.
Apologies. _________________ "Lynda, you're sweet. From what I've seen of your world, do you think anybody votes for sweet?"
Doctor Who- Bad Wolf
"Because he refused to compete in games of domination he was indomitable"
from The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin |
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Hagbard Celine Minor Poster
Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Oxford UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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One thing that sruck me on that film is that the trees in the 2007 footage are far taller than the ones in the Hazakhani film. Could they have grown that much in 6 years?. Or did Hezakhani realize that he couldn't get the shot he wanted from any camera location in Battery park and fixed it to the trees get digitally moved out of the way to make the fake shot more spectacular?
If you watch the bonus "making of" documentaries on movie DVD's you can see that it's not hard to do with modern SFX. Lord of the Rings is a good comparison. _________________ "Lynda, you're sweet. From what I've seen of your world, do you think anybody votes for sweet?"
Doctor Who- Bad Wolf
"Because he refused to compete in games of domination he was indomitable"
from The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin |
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Gillywibble New Poster
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Coventry, West Midlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm confused. Is NPT taboo?
Edit: Just read some of the NPT threads. I can understand that detracting from the main argument is unhelpful.
I presume that the NPT doesn't apply to the Pentagon and Flight 93? |
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Killtown 9/11 Truth critic
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 438 Location: That Yankee country the U.S.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hagbard Celine wrote: | One thing that sruck me on that film is that the trees in the 2007 footage are far taller than the ones in the Hazakhani film. Could they have grown that much in 6 years? |
No, the trees were mature before 9/11. Just search for pre-9/11 Battery Park pics and you'll see that the trees haven't grown any taller.
The video is fake. The 9/11 gatekeepers just don't want you to know that. _________________ killtown.blogspot.com - 911movement.org |
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Killtown 9/11 Truth critic
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 438 Location: That Yankee country the U.S.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Gillywibble wrote: | 1) I'm confused. Is NPT taboo?
2) I presume that the NPT doesn't apply to the Pentagon and Flight 93? |
1) Go try to discuss NPT at the LC forum and find out.
2) Essentially yes. non-NPTers think of NPT just being about no-planes hitting the WTC. _________________ killtown.blogspot.com - 911movement.org |
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