Nasty feeling about this site

[keithm]

ive got a nasty feeling about this site.

every time i post something that is proven and challenges the U.S governments bs version(fabel)of 9/11,

i get an e-mail from the mods, criticising my subject title,spelling mistakes,and anything else they find to criticise,except for the story.

this is my last contribution on this site.

[Rory Winter]

[John White]

Binned. By me

And Keith is just p*ssed becuase he failed to motivate the membership to support his call for NPT and BW to be plastered all over the site

[Rory Winter]

Thanks for that, John. Sorry what are NPT and BW?

[ian neal]

no plane theories and beam (direct energy) weapons theories

[Rory Winter]

Ok, thanks Ian. I get the picture now. No place for these here.

[truthmonger]

I get it - the White wizard and his friends will tell us what there is to see i.e. what they've seen with their blinkers on, so they'll deny there can be any other reality.

This is just like the dogmatic materialists (Dawkins & Co., for example) who are so sure they're right because they believe that what they don't see (with their blinkers on) can't possibly exist.

But as Mark Twain wisely observed: "You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus".

[paul wright]

That's very wise comment Truthmonger who I'm inclined to believe I know from somewhere

[Rory Winter]

[Pikey]

[Rory Winter]

[TonyGosling]

[xmasdale]

I seem to remember certain significant things happening to this site: Andrew Johnson complained that his theories about no planes and directed energy weapons were consigned to the controversies section so that posts about them were not visible on the front page. Andrew got pissed off with this policy and set up his own website to discuss such issues. Meanwhile Ian Neal announced that he had altered the settings on this forum so that posts in the controversies section would be visible on the front page. If such posts are now not visible there, either someone else has reset it or Ian Neal did not succeed in setting it as he announced.

The name of the website was changed to "9/11 the Bigger Picture and the Quest for Truth" to signal that it was not the official website of the British 9/11 Truth Campaign, but a free space for discussion. The official website of the campaign is here: http://www.911truthcampaign.net/ However, if such issues as NPT and DEW are being consigned to a section which makes them invisible on the front page, that suggests a difference of opinion between the site administrator, Tony, on the one hand and Ian Neal, who has the means to alter the settings, on the other.

There does appear to be a difference of opinion between on the one hand some of the site users, backed I think by the campaign committee, that this forum should be a free-for-all discussion area about issues connected with the War on Terror (bar offensive and abusive posts defined by the site's guidelines) (while the Campaign's website should concentrate on marketing and agreed campaign policy to the public) and on the other hand the site administrator, Tony, who appears to want to have conspicuously discussed only those theories about 9/11 that he agrees with.

I understand the campaign committee will soon be deciding who should be given responsibility for the administration of this site in future after which the campaign will have no further jurisdiction over the site.

The administrator appears to think that his personal religious beliefs should override the site's expressed guidelines against offensive posts, in that he has himself on several occasions made homophobic posts. When I have tried to discuss the issue with him, he has replied that homosexuality is wrong because it was preached against by Jesus and his closest disciples. When I pointed out that none of the New Testament writers even mention homosexuality, except for St Paul who was not a close disciple of Jesus since they never met, he quoted St Paul at me. When I asked him whether, since Tony accepts St Paul's condemnation of homosexuality, he also accepts Paul's support for the institution of slavery and his teaching about the inferior status of women, he replied that he would not question the "Sacred Word of my Heavanly Father" and so it was impossible to discuss the issue further with him. Doubtless the campaign committee will be considering the issue of whether the site administrator's personal views should override the site's guidelines on discrimination against certain groups of people, which I quote below and which may be read here: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=1685



"Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: Further guidance on faith/race issues

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Having discussed this with several key campaigners and moderators, I have been asked to propose some fuller guidance from the 'moderators' on what 'we' consider to be offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence.

In a nutshell, this guidance is that

posts which refer to jews (people of the judiac faith) in any way that is less favourable than non jews (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to muslims in any way that is less favourable than non muslims (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to Christians in any way that is less favourable than non Christians (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to a Tutsi in any way that is less favourable than a Hutu (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to 'black' people in any way that is less favourable than 'white' people(and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to gay people in any way that is less favourable than straight people (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

Etc. You get the idea.

On the other hand you can be as rude as you like about fascists, war criminals and those who knowingly conspire with them.

All moderation decisions are subject to appeal."

[Pikey]

Keiths thread gets the dustbin gatekeeper treatment

[Rory Winter]

The settings must be switched-on because these posts which are in the Controversies folder are showing up on the Latest News panel.

[xmasdale]

[Pikey]

[xmasdale]

[utopiated]

[utopiated]

Oooh, I'm writing in the DUSTBIN.

Stinks in here. Rotten banana skins I reckon.

[Rory Winter]

[Pikey]

Xmasdale states

[xmasdale]

[Rory Winter]

May I ask who it is at present who is responsible for changing the content in areas like Latest News? Is it Tony Gosling or him & others as well? And why is this in the Dustbin?

[TonyGosling]

Rory,

You really must take the trouble to read the posts before griping. The answer to your question is in the third post from the top.

Remember this is a public space and you are sowing fictional dissent by attacking the site that allows you free rein where many others would not.

You're becoming quite a serious problem and seem very much out of kilter with most of the freedm fighters here. So would you please take a deep breath and consider carefully what you are doing here.

We don't allow posts attacking this site or us moderators (even though we usually turn a blind eye) for reasons which should be obvious. If you want to do that come along to a meeting so we can sort out our differences without washing dirty linen in public.

[xmasdale]

[Rory Winter]

[xmasdale]

[Rory Winter]

You may be right in all this, Xmasdale. But that's no excuse for Tony to treat others in the way he does with threats which are calculated to intimidate and humiliate. This sort of abuse from an Administrator is really beyond the pale of acceptability.

[TonyGosling]