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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Obama, The Postmodern Coup - book by Webster Tarpley Reply with quote

Soft Power - global showdown against Moscow and Beijing

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Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. Obama comes from the orbit of the Ford Foundation, and has never won an election in a real contest. His guru and controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the Trilateral Commission co-founder and mad Russia-hater. Zbig wants a showdown with Russia and China far more dangerous for the US than the Bush-Cheney Iraq quagmire. Obama’s economics are pure Skull & Bones/Chicago school austerity and sacrifice for American working families, to bail out the bankrupt Wall Street financiers who own him. Obama’s lemming legions and Kool-Aid cult candidacy hearken back to Italy in 1919-1922, and raise a spectre of postmodern fascism in America. No voter can afford to ignore the lessons contained in this book.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I enjoy Tarpley his recent programs have been fixated on denigrating Obama, which no doubt helps sell his book. In the process he tends to give Mrs Clinton a free ride. There is nothing in the recent political history of the US, at least since the coup of November 1963, to suggest that a Clinton or McCain presidency would deliver policies that were in any way distinguishable from the Bush era. Obama may well be a creature of the Ford foundation, or Brezenski, or the Trilateral Commission. Gee, what a surprise. Does anyone nowadays seriously believe that someone can get "elected" president without the help of these and similar power groups. It is after all one of Tarpley's main contentions that the people who really run the USA are not the figurehead politicians. so it doesn't really matter, on Tarpley's thesis, who gets elected. Why then the fixation with Obama?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

obama is an arrogant left wing snob and probably a left wing radical

ill vote for mccain

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the democrats raise taxes on the little guy

no one in thier right mind votes for the worms and alex jones is nuts to have that Margeryt cho on who likes obama

alex jones must be a blasted democrat -hes a big phoney i think!

did you enjoy clintons war in serbia?!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

festival of snickers wrote:

ill vote for mccain


Isn't this a bit like saying, "I hate Stalin so I'll vote for Hitler."
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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obama is an arrogant left wing snob and probably a left wing radical



I had forgotten how rabidly right wing some Americans are, but even I am surprised at the suggestion Obama is a radical.

If only.........

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took "radical" in the American sense of bipolar political disorder.

I'm surprised that you even remember what it might have meant to you once.

On this side of the pond. . .

If, indeed it ever did mean anything to you.

Let's get radical Mr Stott.

Tell us what you really think happened on 9/11.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbo234 wrote:
festival of snickers wrote:

ill vote for mccain


Isn't this a bit like saying, "I hate Stalin so I'll vote for Hitler."


how is mccain like hitler?-hes always been nice to american indians

the hitlers are about 25 black congress democrats who are trying to cut Cherokee funds

you know nothing

see"cherokee freedman controversy"

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festival of snickers wrote:
obama is an arrogant left wing snob and probably a left wing radical



I had forgotten how rabidly right wing some Americans are, but even I am surprised at the suggestion Obama is a radical.

If only.........


he went to that sickass black church where rev wright rants how he hates

he rants so we rant

he hates -we wont vote for him

right or wrong -its his fault fo hanging around hate mongers

all that talk about black supremacy-if he said white supremacy he wouldnt get elected-if people knew he went there

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oKLAHOMA CITY - American Indian activist Kayln Free, a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention from Oklahoma, has a warning for the prospective nominee of her party: Don't take the Indian vote for granted against Republican John McCain.




Free is president of the Tulsa-based INDN List and the INDN Education Fund. INDN stands for Indigenous Democratic Network. Her organization has been active in electing Indian candidates to office.

She is still a little peeved over the failure of either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama to attend an the INDN-sponsored presidential forum, known as the "Prez on the Rez," in California last August. Three Democratic candidates who eventually dropped out of the presidential race attended the event: Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel.

Free said Clinton first turned down an invitation and Obama followed suit.

"I'm not going to hold a grudge, but I think it was a misstep and a slap in the face" to Indian tribes, Free said. "Unfortunately, Sen. Obama did not step up to the plate, either."

She said the campaigns have tried to smooth over the failure of the candidates to attend, but more needs to be done.

"I'm hoping the candidates will be able to meet with tribal leaders," she said.

"Sen. McCain has a record with Indian country. He has carried a lot of water for tribes over the years. I think it is a grave mistake for the Democratic nominee or these two candidates to think that Indian Country will be there for them just because they are the Democratic nominee."

In Oklahoma, McCain will be a heavy favorite. Even though Democrats have a majority of registered voters and a large Indian population that tends to vote Democratic as a whole, the party's presidential nominee has not carried the conservative state since 1964.

Free, however, says Indians can make a big difference in some states and tells anyone to ask Al Gore what a difference a few hundred votes can make.

Free was interviewed

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Tarpley's Obama book Reply with quote

Well done Tony for bringing Webster Tarpley's book to the attention of all you 9/11 truthers on this website.

The book 'Obama: The Postmodern Coup; The Making of a Manchurian Candidate' is a must read. I would recommend that everyone read it.

A few points raised from the book:

Brzezinski as chief foreign policy adviser
Zbigniew Brzezinski, for those of you who don't know was Carter's National Security adviser and Secretary of State. He is a revanchist, a career -long Russia-hater, dating from his university days onwards. Zbig is a low-level polish aristocrat, and he was behind the support for the mujaheddin in the war against the Soviet Union in the 1980's. This of course, practically brought the Soviet Union to its knees.
Zbig wants war with Russia then, but he isn't an advocate of 'hard power', or direct military intervention a la the neocons. His aim is to play one country (namely China) against Russia. He aims to do this firstly by isolating Pakistan, a key ally of China. Obama is actually to the right of Bush on the issue of Pakistan, in that he advocates military strikes against Pakistan without first prewarning the countries leader (Bush at least warns first). In the Feb 2008 military stirkes on Pakistan, Pakistan's then-president Musharaff wasn't notified until the bombings were in progress. This for Tarpley, suggests that the Zbig foreign policy clique is already influencing US foreign policy.
The other stand an Obama-Brzezinski administration might take is on the Darfur issue, in order to prevent China from getting its mits on Africa's oil. And with graet swathes of the Middle East and the Persian Gulf sewn up by Anglo-American oil, China would be forced to seek its oil somewhere else, namely western Siberia where there is a lot of oil and few people.
So, obviously worst case scenario if Obama gets in and Zbig is granted his lifes major ambition: war with Russia. McCain as president means war on Iran within 6 months. So which would you rather? War on Iran or war on Russia? A terrible situation then, McCain being the lesser of two evils.

And on the homefront: austerity and sacrifice for the American people.
Obama's economic advisers, such as Goolsbee are Friedmanite Chicago school economists.

Obama himself represents Wall Street interests, and his main orbit is the Ford Foundation. The Ford Foundation have close ties to the CIA of course, and have been known to be very active in controlling left opinion.

In short don't be duped by Obama (just as that left 'stalwart' George Galloway has been) - he's definitely a wolf in sheep's clothing. Left liberal my eye.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres nothing 'postmodern' about obama the man or his politics - im confused at the title
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Tarpley dodgy racism on Obama Reply with quote

Tarpley is a key analyst for me and I can’t argue with much of what he says about Obama. I am, though concerned by some of his racist undertones. His thesis is that Obama is a tool of the Rockefellers because he hates the US and will impose austerity on it, which is what the Rockefellers and the Anglo-American establishment want. His hatred his shared by Jeremiah Wright, the preacher who damned America. Wright’s hatred is because he is an African-American radical. Because Obama is black he shares Wright’s hatred and therefore will impoverish America. Meanwhile, his wife, Michelle, also hates ‘whitey’. (Get this, whites call blacks ‘nig*er’, ‘co*n’, ‘sa*bo’ while the worse insult the race-hating Michelle can come up with for white people is ‘whitey’ – this is laughable.)

The whole thesis is a lot of silly baloney. We are meant to believe that Obama wants revenge on white people and will do so by impoverishing them, but none this will impact on African-Americans!!! Any idiot will tell you that it is African-Americans, and other minorities, who are going to suffer the most. Besides, Wright’s ‘God damn America’ rant would be agreed with by many people throughout the world.

As for Obama, I thought that he’d be against attack Iran. I think I am wrong. Check out the great radio program, Remote Control: From 9/11 to an Assault on Iran, http://takingaimradio.com/shows/audio.html (Unfortunately, Taking Aim also has an Obama obsession.)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder if the references in this book are as nonsense the rest of his books. Tarpley is not all he's cracked up to be
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you do better than this cheap pop Andy?
Synthetic Terror has done so much

Now the Obama era is also the Tarpley era.

Having a inarticulate go at Sr. Tarpley is much like having a cheap pop at - say- a 7/7 survivor you don't happen to 'like'.

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i wonder if the references in this book are as nonsense the rest of his books. Tarpley is not all he's cracked up to be

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I am going to buy this book because I'm interested in finding out about Obama's past, his ties to the Foundations, his grooming etc. We all know that US Presidential candidates are hand picked by the establishment but with Obama there's so many voids in his history that it's intrigued me more than, say, Clinton, who we knew was pure a establishment candidate because of her husband, their CIA ties, Bush ties, etc.

Tarpley has been bang on this year with his analysis of the Obama fever that has had swathes of Americans entranced in the false left-right system. Tarpley was one of the first to talk about the fascist mass movement around Obama's campaign, the similarities to Mussolini in the early 20's, the key role of Zbig etc. To see his 'CHANGE' slogan pasted everywhere makes me very sad, because we all know it's a hollow message. His outlook is almost identical to that of McCain's, but because he's a Democrat (and a black man) he manages to uphold the illusion of progression when if you scratch the surface you'll see the same old hawks pulling the strings from behind the stage. I mean, after eight years of Bush, America doesn't really care who's president so long as he's not a doddering fool - and McCain came across as such, making the Democratic win inevitable bar some serious vote fraud.

I'll have to read the book to learn more about Obama's shady past. I do think he's probably a good guy with some good intentions - he's no doubt too compartmentalised to see how much of a puppet he is - but he's just new bird cage liner, as AJ would say.

The right thing to do in these elections was to vote third party and send a message of no confidence to the establishment. Many will have done this, and although their votes haven't contributed to any political change on the surface, they can be proud that they have said no to the two party dictatorship which supports the bankster bailouts, eternal wars for the military industrial complex and a taxation on breathing.

Let's just make sure we're seen telling people now that Obama will change nothing for the American people, usher in economic austerity, bail out his financial criminal friends etc. so that we can remind the sheep a few months down the line that we were right and they were once again duped by the propaganda of a system that's holding on for dear life in the face of a real renaissance coming from the alternative media.

They had this guy doing his utmost one year ago to bring about real change, but the world just isn't ready for such a revolution yet:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul-no-change-is-on-the-horizon.html

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been listening to yesterday's Alex Jones show.

He had Mike Rivero on - to present his case for Obama being the lesser of two evils, and Tarpley to present his case for the opposite - after which they had a bit of a heated debate. great radio!

I think Tarpley's obsession with Obama - to the extent of releasing not just one but TWO books slagging the guy off at the same time, and even being prepared to support Hilary Clinton as the Democratic candidate to keep Obama out - is a trifle OTT. if Obama had been running against satan - Tarpley would have been campaigning for satan.... Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for that, gruts. I'm always tuning into AJ when Webster's on. And it's always best when there's a bit of a debate. I had no idea Rivero would be so hooked on this idea of the lesser of two evils. If that's his logic, he should have done the Jesse Ventura thing and gone for a 'none of the above' and voted third party. Buying into the Republican-Democrat system is very tedious, especially for someone like Rivero, who knows very well how controlled both parties are.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Obama's rubbish job Reply with quote

Anyone who advocates voting McCain and Palin is a looney. Just listen to the Republicans and hear how deluded they are. One on Channel 4 claims that the economy will be a catastropy thanks to Obama - HELLO!!!

The reason why there were so many serious black (OK, one) and female candidates (OK, one wasn't serious) is because they'd be landed with cleaning up the mess the Republicans made. The US federal government is bankrupt and so is its economy. There will be no big government programme spending to get people back to work like FDR did. The US is bankrupt. The President will hike taxes, slash spending, especially domestic spending, and get the troops on the streets to clamp down on the protest. And at the end, he'll get the US into the North America Union. Obama will be hated by the time his term is up, if he doesn't get assassinated first. The Anglo-American Establishment would rather this happens to a black man or a woman rather than their real buddies (not that they have any quarms about killing white men).

In terms of foreign affairs, the Anglo-American Establishment wants China out of Africa and is prepared to sponsor genocide to do it. That means that the US will get its Africom on African soil thanks to (Kenyan) Obama, who will fool Africans into doing this. He'll also launch attacks on Pakistan (more than what's happening now) and people will think he'll get away with it because 'he's from the Third World'.

When all this is done, and the Republican's mess has been cleaned up, Obama will be booted out and replaced by Arnie Schwarznegger, or someone like him.

There may very be much that is valuable in Tarpley's book but his position on Obama is O barmey. To think that John bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran-spend-big-on-military-and-cut-domestic-spending-th e-economy-is- strong McCain is better than Obama is delusion of the highest order. Much like Ralph Shoenman on Taking Aim, Alex Jones etc. Something v. strange is going on here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarpley's view is that McCain is a walking corpse who would be at loggerheads with a congress controlled by the democrats. thus he would be less dangerous than obama, who will effectively be able to wield much more power with the executive and legislative branches working in harmony - and carry on the same old same old but with a fresh face....

in addition - many people on the left, who have been vociferous critics of the bush administration will probably be much less critical of obama, even if he's doing the same things as bush. it will be interesting to see if the likes of naomi wolf are still talking about america becoming like nazi germany in 6 months time....

on the other hand it's equally true that many people on the right who have shut up during the dubya years will now start attacking whatever obama does simply because he's not their guy - and dubya hasn't exactly been given a rough ride by the democrats since they took over control of the house and senate.

so would an obama presidency really be so much worse than a mccain presidency that it justifies writing two anti-obama books and generally losing your marbles about it? I think not.... Smile

maybe somebody's pulling tarpley's strings?

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The slogan Change originates not from Obama but from the US Unions who had a campaign slogan Change to Win.

Those who have followed Obama is because they have had enough of Bush and they are feeling uncertainty for the future.

America has been buried under the weight of mass immigration, job insecurity, mortgage defaults and the export of union paying jobs.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html

Despite all the above Obama only won by 6-7% an insignificantly small amount. He has only 2 years before mid-term elections. Time isn't on his side.

Now from the moment Iceland is now in hock to the Russians, it will be hard for America to push the wall against Russia.

Obama will be forced to withdraw from Iraq. Brezinski in the Grand Chessboard speaks about the fragmentation and the break-up of the USA. That is probably on the cards as war with Russia without the Europeans backing it means alone the Americans cant do it.

Obama may try but will fail in that endeavour.
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How I remember the days and the frenzy when Blair was elected just like America now, The real people that run America will never select a canditate that would bring in a government for the people. All the corporations that gave all the money for the campaign will want the returns. How anybody thinks that they the voters select the leader beats me Obama would not have been selected if he was for change for the people. It was the same in the uk Blair was going to change everything corruption a thing of the past ordinary people would have they’re say. How different it has turned out. I wonder how America will be Like in two years?.
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I agree with what you say There will never be CHANGE, the American people have been truly duped yet again. IF they think changing colour of their President will make a difference They are in for a rude awakening.

The American Sheeple want the AMERICAN DREAM, well they need to WAKE UP because they are already in it.

There has never been or ever will be a GOVERNMENT for the people.


If anything should happen to Obama , Joe Biden will step down and IN COMES HILARY CLINTON.

They have already selected his Government for him, most will be Clintons choice. So expect more wars.
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Actually millions of US citizens want out of the postmodern charade.

And increasingly see the just-for-profit media, which could even be the driving force behind the NeoLiberal/Neocons nightmare.

Don't believe that what the US media decides to show us truly represents the views of either the ordinary people or the opinion formers/politicians in the US.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plowing thru Webster Tarpley's Obama Coup tome, I can see Obama as a placement for a genuinely fascist global regime
He has the charisma (apparently - I cant see it), the cool, the embodiment of hope and community for a mass of people, consciously or not, in a state of despair and alienation, and on a global level
Some of the elements in the German and Italian consciousness of the 'Twenties and 'Thirties, and also delineated long ago, along with other aspects, in Reich's Mass Psychology of Fascism, are readily apparent in the world today, and the manufactured crises are likely to deepen

Still, we are in a process of transformation, and how the Obama icon turns out, may help rather than hinder how people get there. I would agree he is fronting some very dangerous types,who are apparently trouncing the plain-ugly obvious neo-cons, to produce something far worse and more genuinely Hitlerian
Whether he's the Chosen One or some precursor, I'm not sure.
I share with the rest of the world the sigh of relief at the end of the despicable criminality of the neocon agenda
But the uplift requires a equallly radical re-shift of response from us

ps Does anyone want a pdf of Tarpley's book? Happy to email it. Pm

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm well on board with Tarpley's ideas and know all about the extremely dangerous Zbig and Wall Street backing and intend to get Tarpley's new book once I've finished Web Of Debt by Ellen Brown.

I have read enough of The Grand Chessboard to understand how criminally arrogant Zbig is and I don't question his and his cohorts' determination to see the big showdown between China and Russia during the next four to eight years. Zbig is pretty old and probably will stop at nothing to escalate a massive conflict in the near future before he croaks it. That said, he'll probably be one of them elite pricks that lives past 100.

What we do know is that America is in a very dangerous place right now and I think we can guarantee more bailouts, more dollar devaluation (even hyperinflation), fervent support for the first 100 days (bolstered by this 'generated' event that Biden and Powell have referred to) and more of the same in terms of his administration choices. I see Rahm Emanuel has been hand picked and he comes across as a bit of a psycho:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/8091986/the_enforcer/

Since no American president can stand up to Israel, it's interesting to see that Obama is also the AIPAC candidate and is appointing Zionists into his ranks. While I agree with Webster that we'll probably see a move away from the Islamofascist fearmongering and war baiting, to a more sharp focus on Russia and China, I think the Iran/Pakistan invasions remain on the table. And definitely Pakistan, since it's a key Chinese ally.

I really, really hope that Obama has a conscience and can somehow find a way to try and serve the American people, but, as history has told us, he'll be a prime target for assassination - fatally or politically - if he dares to disobey his handlers. It's so hard to tell people how wicked this whole cabal is because many have bought into the PR image of Obama, seeing him as a welcome change to the neocons, but we must use these times to educate people about how much of a puppet an American president is. When the Obama honeymoon is over and the economic austerity settles in, as Webster has predicted - and it seems inevitable - we can hopefully use the coming bleak times ahead to wake up more to the shadow government. I've never seen anything like the irrational and crazed response to a new president like this before, and no doubt the hardcore left liberals will go along with more of the same, blinkered by the fact there's a new Democratic face in the Whitehouse. Yet the rest of us will be able to remember the big election fuss over nothing and through exposing to those people the facts about the NWO, it'll become clear that the pageant we call the American elections is a rigged game every time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amazing
David Icke is in today's Pakistan Daily!


Barack Obama The Naked Emperor

Written by www.daily.pk
Sunday, 04 January 2009 02:12
I am writing this in the last days of 2008 as I watch with dismay as vast numbers of people across the world, including many who should know better, have been duped by the mind-game called Operation Obama.
Even people with some understanding of the conspiracy have said things like: 'Well, at least he's not Bush' and 'Well, at least it's great to see such a new spirit of hope'. No, he's not Bush - he's potentially far more dangerous; and what is the use of a spirit of 'hope' if it's based on a lie? In fact, what use is 'hope' at all?

Obama's wife, Michelle, who I wouldn't trust to tell me the date in a calendar factory, said that 'everything begins and ends with hope'. Utter nonsense. Hope is a meaningless emotion because its fruits are always in the future and, by definition, never in the NOW.

Hope is like riding a carousel horse; no matter how fast you go you never get closer to the one in front. The idea, however, is to persuade you to stay on the horse, despite the evitable disappointment, in the 'hope' that things will change. But they don't because the very system is designed to prevent it.

That's the way 'hope' is employed by the dastardly and devious - take the nonsense we are giving you now in the 'hope' that things will get better (but we know they won't). Barack Obama is a purveyor of 'hope' because his masters want the people to accept what they are given now in the hope that good times will come.

Just do what we demand, oops, sorry, Barack demands, and in return he'll inspire you to hope that it is all leading to the Promised Land. It isn't, but, by the time you realise that, it's too late.

What terrifies the manipulators is that people will abandon hope, as a future, sometime-never projection, and start to demand fairness, justice and freedom now. To avoid this nightmare they need to keep those desires as something to aspire to, not to actually have.

Thus, their man, Obama, sells 'hope' as a diversion technique, a holding position, to keep the masses from truly rebelling. We have no job, no food on the table and our home has been foreclosed, but at least we have 'hope'. Phew, thank goodness for that.

'I'm hungry, mum, can I have some hope, please?'

'I'm so sorry, darling, you can't have hope today, only tomorrow - hope is always tomorrow.'

'So will I eat tomorrow, mum?'

'We can hope so now, dear, but when we get to tomorrow, we can only hope it's the next day.'

On and on it goes. That's how 'hope' works. Or rather doesn't.

Obama's predominant mantra has been 'change'. Indeed, his massively-funded, record-breaking campaign was based on that one word - change. This is a technique used by Bill Clinton and many others and it is highly effective because, at any point, the system ensures that most people are not happy with the way life is. So, when you don't like the status quo, 'change' can be a potent message, even if, like Obama, you don't say what it means.

It has been vital to his success, and that of his controllers, that he has never specified what his 'hope', 'change', and that other mind-control trigger-word, 'believe', were referring to in terms of policy and the way society in general will be affected. Hope for what? Change what? Believe in what? To answer those questions with specifics would have been fatal to Obama's appeal.


I studied the military/government mind-control programmes and techniques in great detail for many years during the late-1990s and across 2000, and the Obama 'phenomenon' is the most blatant mass-mind control operation you could wish to see.

At its core the plan has been to make Obama the focus of everything you hope for, believe in and want to change. This is why it has been crucial for him not to specify and detail what is meant by his 'hope, 'change' and 'believe'.

However, I can tell you what those words mean in the context of the Obama mind-game. They mean whatever you decide they mean or want them to mean. The idea is for you to project all that you stand for onto him and so he becomes the symbol of you and how you see the world. Specifics would destroy that 'I am whatever you want me to be' scenario and so you don't get any detail, just 'hope', 'change', and 'believe'.

They don't want him to be seen only as 'the Messiah'; they also want him to be Abraham Lincoln, JFK, or Buddha - anyone you choose to project on him, for he is a blank page, blank screen and empty suit. Obama is a make-your-own, do-it-yourself leader, a projection of your own mind. (If you are still asleep, that is. If you are in any way awake, he's an open book.)

'I am whatever you want me to be, for I am just a projection of you. And I got a big smile, see.'

There is no more powerful way of manipulating people than to tell them what they want to hear and to keep shtum about anything they wouldn't like. Double-glazing salesmen are trained to pick up in general conversation what their target likes and dislikes and to respond accordingly in the way the product is sold. The technique is simply to tell the potential buyer what you have gleaned they want to be told.

Obama comes from the same stable, but on a massively bigger scale and with a whole network of advisors and controllers steeped in the art of manipulating minds, opinions and actions.

Obama's written-for-him speeches are not from the heart, but from the autocue. The 'heart' bit comes from extensive training and his Bill Clintonesque ability to 'mean it when he says it', a state of delivery that goes beyond mere acting. Tony Blair was trained in the same way.

But if you take a step back and look at these people dispassionately you can clearly see the techniques they consciously employ. Blair is the most blatant fraud in the way he delivers a line, stops in mid-sentence for emphasis and looks down for fake emotional effect. Obama is a little more slick, but, from where I have been looking this past year, not much. And how have people not seen those cold eyes just above the painted smile?

You can watch his mind working, turning between autocue screens to his left and right, then straight down the camera for his key messages. From-the-heart orators don't do that; they are too immersed in what they are feeling and saying to give even a passing thought to where they are looking or how the line is delivered.

I worked in television for more than a decade, often reading autocue while a director spoke in my ear telling me what cameras to look at. I have, since the early 1990s, spoken my truth on public stages across the world. I know, therefore, the difference between artificial autocue delivery and body language and talking from the heart without a script. Obama, I repeat, is coming from the autocue, not the heart.

Obama's speeches are a mass of mind-control techniques and Neuro-Linguistic-Programming, or NLP, and they are carefully constructed to implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the viewer. Click here for a description of his psycho-babble, headed An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches.

As I keep emphasising, the whole Obama circus is an exercise in mass mind control and it has been so successful because so many people live their lives in a permanent state of trance. All of which brings me to the parallels with Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and similar regimes throughout history.

Obama may not look like Hitler, nor sound like Hitler, but the themes are just the same. Germany was in a terrible state economically and militarily in the 1930s in the aftermath of the First World War and the reparations inflicted on the country by the Rothschild/Illuminati-controlled Versailles 'Peace' Conference in 1919.

From amid the chaos came the man that Germans saw then in much the same way that so many see Obama today. His name was Adolf Hitler and his oratory and rhetoric, again supported by a ritualistic presentation founded on mind-control techniques, made him appear to be the German 'messiah', the German Obama.

Hitler promised 'change', 'hope' and something to 'believe in' amidst the consequences of war and financial collapse. He spoke to vast rallies of adoring followers and a mass movement emerged in support of Hitler's vision of a new tomorrow.

As the writer Webster Tarpley points out, fascism in its true sense is not just a Police State imposed by a tiny hierarchy. It might end up like that, but first it is brought to power by a mass movement from within the people who have no understanding of what the 'change', hope' and 'believe' they are being offered really means. They just know that they want some because, as with Obama, they make it mean what they want it to mean. Only later do they see, to their horror, what they have signed up for.

Obama's America ...
... Hitler's Germany.

There may seem to be a world of difference, but the techniques are just the same.

Obama is far more dangerous than Bush because he can sell a line to those who are in the trance while Boy Bush could not do that on anything like the same scale. Bush was a transparent idiot with no communication skills who needed massive fraud at the polls to get him officially 'elected'. He could never be the figurehead to inspire a mass movement of the people to support some vacuous 'hope', 'change' and 'believe' when they don't even know what those words are supposed to mean.

But Obama clearly can, because he has.

One of 'his' (his controllers') prime targets are the young, just as they were with the Nazis and the Hitler Youth Movement. If you think this parallel is far-fetched then have a look at this video to see how extreme Obama worship has already become for some young people. Hitler Youth was just the same. Click here to watch ...

In line with this theme, the WorldNetDaily website reported:

'The official website of President-Elect Barack Obama, Change.gov, originally announced that Obama would "require" all middle school through college students to participate in community service programs; but after a flurry of blogs protested children being drafted into Obama's proposed youth corps, the website's wording was softened.

Originally, under the tab "America Serves", Change.gov read, "President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in under served schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps.

"Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year," the site announced.'

Obama said in a speech in July 2008 in Colorado Springs that he wanted to see a 'civilian national security force' that would be as powerful and well-funded as the Marines, Navy and Air Force. As Joseph Farah, founder of WorldNetDaily, wrote:

'If we're going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn't this rather a big deal? I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military.

How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together? Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that? If not, why did he say it? What did he mean?'

Obama meant, amid the flowery words, that he's not in favour of either peace or freedom. He is a front-man demagogue for the same force that controlled Boy Bush, Clinton, Father Bush, Reagan, Carter, ad infinitum; but the difference is that he has been hyped to such hysterical proportions that he will be allowed to get away with far more than they were, at least until reality dawns on the mass ranks of his hypnotised supporters. And, clearly, that could take some time.

The cabal will be anxious to squeeze every minute from Obama's honeymoon period and we can expect to see events move quickly after his inauguration in January.

When I was a journalist 30 years ago, I came across a technique that some tabloid newspaper reporters would use to get someone to speak with them. They would work in pairs with the first one knocking on the door of some distressed family who didn't want to talk with the media. He would tell them he was from a newspaper he didn't really work for and treat them with aggression and contempt to make them even more upset.

He would then leave and his colleague would knock on the door, tell them the real newspaper he was from, and act like Mr. Nice Guy. He would say that he understood completely how upsetting the other man must have been, but 'if you will only speak to me exclusively I will make sure that the other man, nor anyone like him, won't bother you again'. They usually agreed and the scam was complete.

Much the same thing is happening with regard to Bush and Obama. The Neoconservative 'Republican' wing of the Illuminati controlled Bush for eight years and led the country into foreign wars and financial chaos (bad guy/problem); now the 'Democratic' wing, led by the infamous Zbigniew Brzezinski, has brought forth the 'saviour', Barack Obama, to lead us into the sunshine with 'hope' and 'change' (good guy/solution).

Hence even some more aware people say: 'At least he's not Bush'.

Apart from the unspecified 'hope, 'change' and 'believe', few have any idea what Obama's policies will be. Public perception comes from having an 'image' of him, or a self-projection, not the fine print because Obama doesn't do fine print until the votes are cast and even then he will hide it in his windbag words.

There is an 'image' that Obama is against war, but no he's not. He says he's against the invasion of Iraq, though we'll see what he does about that in office. How can a man calling for more troops, including European troops, to be sent to Afghanistan be against war? He has also said he is prepared to bomb Pakistan and use military force to stop Iran building nuclear weapons and he has appointed Hillary 'Let's bomb 'em' Clinton (Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations) as Secretary of State and re-appointed Bush's 'Let's bomb 'em' Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates (Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations). So that's the 'change we can believe in', then.

Obama isn't against war at all and, if his controllers have their way, he will engage the US in even more foreign conflicts with the troops sent to their deaths, and the deaths of their targets, on a wave of oratory from the dark suit with the black face who would never go where he's sending them.

He claims to be a 'uniter', which is exactly what Bush said about himself before he came to office, but unity in and of itself is not the issue. Nazi Germany had unity in the early years of the war, but was that a good thing? What matters is what the unity is designed to achieve and Obama's much-vaunted 'unity' is to 'inspire' a mass movement to support the Orwellian plans of the Illuminati.

His constant rhetoric about 'bringing people together' can be used to justify the 'coming together' of the United States, Canada and Mexico in the North American Union; it can be used to concede America's sovereignty to the 'coming together' of the 'world community' (world dictatorship); it can be used to unite the believers in their opposition and condemnation of non-believers, which is precisely what happened in Nazi Germany with the book-burning and violent suppression of those who challenged the Hitler regime.

The potential of Obama Mania is endless when it comes to selling fascism as 'hope, change', 'freedom' and a 'New America', or 'New World' Order.

Bush and Cheney were transparent warmongers and would always have struggled to bring in the draft, the compulsory enlistment of people into the military against their will. But it would not be as difficult for Obama in the current climate. For goodness sake, he's already talking about compulsory community service for middle school, high school and college students and creating a peoples' army in America.

That's why I say Obama is far more dangerous to freedom than Bush. In the last eight years Bush could only get part of the way to fascism - Obama has the potential to finish the job, for all the reasons I have mentioned and more.

You only have to look at the cabal behind Obama, and those he has already appointed to his administration team, to see what his 'change' is truly planned to be. His mentor, svengali and main controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, and the co-founder, with David Rockefeller, of the Illuminati's Trilateral Commission.

Brzezinski has admitted publicly that he began to fund and train what he would call today 'terrorists' in Afghanistan to oppose the Soviet-controlled government in the capital, Kabul, in the late 1970s. The idea, he said, was to entice the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan to protect the Kabul regime and thus give the rival superpower 'their Vietnam'. The plan worked at the cost of a million Afghan lives during the Soviet occupation from 1979 to 1989, a consequence that troubles Brzezinski not at all.

Brzezinski's 'freedom fighters' would become known as the 'Mujahideen' and later the Taliban and what is claimed to be 'Al-Qaeda'. This is the man behind 'anti-war', Barack Obama. It was common knowledge that President Carter would do nothing involving foreign policy without the okay from Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission which chose Carter for president.

It is one of many great ironies of the Obama presidency that he is demanding massive troop reinforcements to be sent to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban terrorists who were initially armed, trained and organised by Brzezinski, the man behind Obama. As Morpheus says in The Matrix: 'Fate, it seems, is not without its sense of irony'.

But then, in Brzezinski's case, it is not 'fate', but cold calculation that has brought it all about. The Poland-born Brzezinski has a fierce hatred of Russia and that is still one of his key targets, together with China.

And if they are Brzezinski's targets, they are Obama's targets.

The Trilateral Commission and the wider Brzezinski network, including Illuminati fronts like the Ford Foundation, have now chosen Obama and the situation will be the same. Brzezinski will call the shots; Obama's job is simply to sell them to the people. This is rather alarming when you think that Brzezinski wants to trigger a war involving Russia and China. 'Obama's' policies come straight from Brzezinski's books. Here is one Brzezinski quote you might recognise and it was made before Obama ran for president:

'Needed social reassessment ... can be encouraged by deliberate civic education that stresses the notion of service to a higher cause than oneself. As some have occasionally urged, a major step in that direction would be the adoption of an obligatory period of national service for every young adult, perhaps involving a variety of congressionally approved domestic or foreign good works.'

Now where have I heard that before?

As an Illuminati operative, Brzezinski's aim is to create a world government, central bank, currency and army - a global dictatorship - underpinned by a microchipped population connected to a global computer/satellite system. He wrote a book in 1970, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, in which he described the global society that he and the Illuminati seek to impose:

'The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.'

He also said in the same book nearly 40 years ago:

'Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites ... Whose ties cut across national boundaries ... It is likely that before long the social elites of most of the more advanced countries will be highly internationalist or globalist in spirit and outlook ... The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty ... Further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken, with some consequent risk to the present relatively favorable American position.'

And what does his puppet, Obama, now say that Americans have to do to bring about 'change'? 'Make sacrifices'. As Mrs. Demagogue, Michelle, said:

'We need a different leadership because our souls are broken. We need to be inspired ... to make the sacrifices that are needed to push us to a different place.'

You can bet that this will include sacrificing more sovereignty and freedom on the road to the global dictatorship described by Brzezinski for decades.

Brzezinski's son, Mark, was an 'advisor' to the Obama campaign (doing what his father told him) and, in line with the American one-party-state, his other son, Ian, was foreign policy advisor to the McCain campaign (doing what his father told him). His daughter, the Obama-supporting Mika Brzezinski, reported the campaign for MSNBC television.

Obama has been the chosen one for a long time, a fact known only to a few in the deep inner circle, and his relationship with Brzezinski almost certainly goes back to the start of the 1980s when he attended the Ivy League, and big-time Illuminati, Columbia University where Brzezinski was head of the Institute for Communist Affairs. Obama simply will not talk in any detail about this period. He has been covertly funded and supported ever since by the Trilateral Commission and its network of foundations connecting into the Ford Foundation, for whom Obama's mother worked.

And a question: Does anyone really believe that someone, a 'man of the people', would simply appear from apparently nowhere to run the slickest and best-funded presidential campaign in American history? He was chosen long ago by those who wish to enslave the very people that Obama says he wants to 'set free'.

The sources of Obama funding read like a Wall Street Who's Who - Goldman Sachs, UBS, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, J.P. Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and so on. No wonder he went back on his pledge to accept the limitations of public funding for his campaign and instead took the no-limit option of 'private' funding.

And those people are going to support a candidate who does not represent their best interests?? Oh please.

Obama and his seasoned network of professional manipulators, sorry his 'campaign team', sold the lie that he had refused to take funding from 'lobbyists', those who are paid to ensure that politicians frame legislation, or block it, in the interests of their clients.

But like everything that surrounds Obama, past and present, it's a sleight of hand and mouth. They funnelled vast sums of money into the Obama accounts through law firms that represent lobbyists and lobby groups. It provided 'plausible denial' about funding from lobbyists while the money poured in from lobby interests via third parties.

Then there is the Jewish financier, George Soros, the multi-billionaire associate of Brzezinski and closely involved with the funding and marketing of Obama. Soros is a former board member of the Illuminati's Council on Foreign Relations and funds the European Council on Foreign Relations. In short, he is a major insider.

You can certainly see the Soros/Brzezinski techniques in the Obama 'revolution' in the United States. It was the complex and secretive network of Soros foundations and organisations, connected to the intelligence agencies of the US and Israel, that trained and funded students in the Ukraine, Georgia and elsewhere in the art of mass protest and overthrowing governments.

These manufactured protests were sold to the world as 'peoples' revolutions', but it just so happened that when they were over and the old regime was removed the new leaders were those waiting in the wings all along - the puppets of Soros, Brzezinski and their associated networks.

Obama is just more of the same, a big smile with strings attached, and controlled completely by the Illuminati networks that chose him, trained him, sold him and provided his record funding. It was they who kept his many skeletons under wraps, like the gay sex and crack cocaine allegations of Larry Sinclair, and they will continue to do so as long as he jumps to their bidding.

Obama is just another Banksters' moll prostituting himself for fame and power, and that's why he supported the grotesque bail-out of the banking system and why he will always put their interests before the people. His financial advisors are straight from the Wall Street 'A' list, including Paul Adolph Volker (Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group), the head of the Federal Reserve from 1979 to 1987 and Illuminati to his fingertips.

Obama has made him head of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board, which is dominated by insiders, including its staff director and chief economist, Austan Goolsbee, a close Obama associate from the University of Chicago. Goolsbee is an initiate of the infamous Illuminati Skull and Bones Society at Yale University, which also includes Boy and Father Bush. It was Goolsbee who told the Canadian government not to worry about Obama's attacks on the economic effects of 'free trade' agreements because his words were just to win votes in the election campaign.

Another Wall Street insider, the Zionist Timothy Geithner (Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations), was appointed by Obama to be his Treasury Secretary. Geithner was the President of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, the most powerful in the private 'Federal' Reserve cartel that masquerades as America's 'central bank', and he is a former employee of both the Council on Foreign Relations and the appalling Kissinger Associates.

Obama's Treasury team locks into the inner circle around the Zionist Robert Rubin, the Director and Senior Counselor of Citigroup, co-chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, and economic advisor to Obama. Rubin, a member of the Illuminati Bilderberg Group, was the man behind Citigroup's strategy of expanding its risk in debt markets which forced it to be rescued by taxpayers' money.

The very people who caused the financial crisis are being appointed by Obama to decide how to respond to it (more taxpayers' money for them and their friends).

Rubin was Treasury Secretary to Bill Clinton and was followed in that post by Larry Summers (Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations) - another insider appointed to Obama's team of 'change'. Summers is a fanatical supporter of 'free trade' (freedom to exploit) and 'globalisation' (global dictatorship) and he wrote a memo in 1991, while chief economist to the World Bank, saying that the bank should dump toxic waste in poor countries because the costs of the ensuing ill-health and death would be lower. When the memo was made public, Brazil's then-Secretary of the Environment, Jose Lutzenburger, told Summers:

'Your reasoning is perfectly logical but totally insane ... Your thoughts provide a concrete example of the unbelievable alienation, reductionist thinking, social ruthlessness and the arrogant ignorance of many conventional 'economists' concerning the nature of the world we live in ... If the World Bank keeps you as vice president it will lose all credibility. To me it would confirm what I often said ...the best thing that could happen would be for the Bank to disappear.'

Lutzenburger was dismissed shortly after writing this letter while the horrific Summers was made US Treasury Secretary by Bill Clinton and now he has been appointed to head the National Economic Council by Mr. 'change', hope' and 'believe' Obama. It's all a fairy story.

Bloomberg.com reported that the Center for American Progress (CAP), housed just three blocks from the White House, has become a major source for policy initiatives for the Obama Democratic Party. Who funds the Center for American Progress? George Soros.

It is simply the Neocon Project for the New American Century and the American Enterprise Institute under another name. Those two organisations developed and dictated the Bush policy of war and suppression of freedom and the 'CAP' and others like it will do the same for Obama. The CAP will fit and Obama will wear it.

In fact, except in name and rhetoric, there is no difference in theme between the regimes of Bush and Obama. Bush policy was dictated through Illuminati 'think tanks' and so is Obama's.

Bush was surrounded by slavish pursuers of Israeli interests and so is Obama. Mr. 'Change' has pledged his unquestioning support for Israel to the point of 'pass the sick bag' and his vice-president, Joe Biden (Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations), is a vehement Zionist who makes a virtue of saying he will support Israel in all circumstances.

Obama has appointed the arch Zionist Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff and another super Zionist Jew, Dennis Ross, to be his Middle East Policy advisor. God help the Palestinians. Ross also served in the Bill Clinton and Father George Bush administrations. Oh, plenty of 'change' there, then.

Rahm Emanuel, a Chicago-born Congressman, is the son of Benjamin M. Emanuel, who was a member of the murderous Jewish terrorist organisation, Irgun, which helped to bomb and terrorise Israel into existence. The Open Secrets website reports that Emanuel was the top House recipient in 2008 for election contributions from 'hedge funds, private equity firms and the larger securities/investment industry'.

Emanuel was also appointed by Bill Clinton to the board of the mortgage giant Freddie Mac in 2000 and his tenure coincided with a stream of scandals and financial irregularities. It famously had to be bailed out by the taxpayer amid the sub-prime mortgage debacle.

Emanuel, like Obama himself, is an asset of the 'Illinois Combine', a cross-party network of politicians and business interests that conspires to manipulate Chicago politics for their own benefit. Even before taking over at the White House Emanuel faced calls for his resignation for alleged connections with the Rod Blagojevich scandal.

In December 2008 Blagojevich, the Illinois governor and associate of Obama, was arrested over a conspiracy involving massive corruption and moves to sell Obama's Senate seat in Chicago made vacant by his election to the presidency. It is yet another example of the staggering web on ongoing and infamous corruption in Chicago by the very networks that spawned Obama.

A close friend of Rahm Emanuel is another clone of the Illinois Combine, the Zionist, David Axelrod, who ran Obama's election campaign and will no doubt be highly influential in the Obama administration. Axelrod is a veteran of Chicago politics, one of the most corrupt political systems in the world and he worked for many Chicago mayors in the 1990s and on Obama's senate campaign in 2004.

Bill Clinton took his Arkansas cabal to Washington when he became president in 1993 and Obama is uploading his Chicago mob and handing them key positions of national power and influence. And these guys don't take prisoners.

All of this may be many things, none of them pleasant, but 'change' it isn't.

David Axelrod, Obama's 'narrator' and handler. Click here for a background article that needs some reading between the lines ...

Obama is a monumental fraud who talks a good story, but lives a very different one. He won his first political office as a state senator in Chicago in 1996, not through the power of his policies, but by coldly abusing the electoral process.

Instead of running against his opponents and letting the people decide, he had his cronies challenge hundreds of names on the nomination papers of his Democratic primary rivals until they were all forced off the ballot by technicalities. He then ran unopposed. One of them, Gha-is Askia, says that Obama's behaviour belied his image as a champion of the little guy and crusader for voter rights:

'Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates? He talks about honour and democracy, but what honour is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?'

Why? Because he would probably have lost and Obama isn't interested in losing by playing fair. He wants to win by any means necessary. The only voter-right he's interested in is the right to vote for him. He has also used his hatchet-men like Axelrod to employ scandal to discredit opponents to ensure his election when the real scandal is the truth about Obama himself.

He is a classically corrupt main-chancer spawned from the Chicago political cesspit. His close connections, therefore, to seriously dodgy 'businessmen' and fraudsters like the now-jailed slum landlord Tony Rezko are exactly what you would expect.

Rezko, yet another snout in the trough of the Illinois Combine, has heavily funded Obama's political career and that of the now-arrested Rod Blagojevich, and in return they have supported massive sums being paid to Rezko by Chicago taxpayers to run 'public housing'.

These properties were then allowed to fall into such a state of danger and disrepair, including sewage running into kitchen sinks, that they were deemed unfit for habitation by the often black poor that Obama was supposed to be representing as a Senator. Some buildings were so bad they had to be demolished.

Rezko also secured appointments for his business associates to state boards and was eventually indicted for using these connections to demand kickbacks from businesses that wanted to do business with the state.

Rezko and Obama toured the $1.6 million mansion in Hyde Park, Chicago, which the Obamas bought at $300,000 below the asking price in 2005 while the Rezkos purchased the adjoining land at the full asking price. Some of this land was later bought by the Obamas. Rezko contributed a quarter of a million dollars to Obama's political career and served on Obama's Senate campaign finance committee, which raised more than $14 million.

Then there is Obama's close association with the terrorists, William Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn. In the late sixties Ayers co-founded the terror organisation called the Weather Underground (also known as the Weathermen and similar derivatives) and launched a campaign of bombing public places like the Pentagon and the Capitol Building. Three members were killed making bombs in Greenwich Village.

In 1970 Ayers was said to have described their philosophy as: 'Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at ...' Mr. Ayers himself comes from the home of 'rich people'.

Bernardine Dohrn said this about the Charles Manson murders: 'Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach.''

William Ayers in 1968.

On the day of 9/11 he told the New York Times that he didn't regret the Weather Underground bombing campaign and believed they didn't do enough.

The case against Ayers and Dohrn was thrown out because of then illegal wire-taps and Ayers is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar.

Ayers recruited Obama to serve as chairman on the $100 million Chicago Annenberg Challenge and they worked together for seven years handing out grants to the 'educational' projects of people like ... William Ayers. They also worked together on another tax-exempt foundation, the Woods Fund in Chicago, which awarded grants to Obama's own Trinity United Church, home to his controversial pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

Obama's political career was effectively launched in 1995, just after he was made chairman of the Annenberg Challenge, at a meeting at the Chicago home of ... William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. They have been connected to his circle ever since if the truth be told.

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge, run by Obama and Ayers, didn't fund schools directly, but instead insisted that they affiliate with 'external partners' who were granted the money. These turned out to be far-left 'community organisers' so beloved of Bill Ayers and these groups included the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).

Obama also conducted 'leadership training' seminars with Acorn and its members began to become heavily involved in his political campaigns. It has also been behind efforts to 'register voters' (voters most likely to vote for Obama) and Nevada state officials raided Acorn's Las Vegas office after election authorities accused the group of submitting multiple voter registrations with fake and duplicate names.

Among the major funders of Acorn ... George Soros.

Obama even refuses to prove that he was born in the United States and thus qualifies to be President. He claims to have been born in Hawaii, but his grandmother, half-brother and half-sister in Kenya all insist he was born there.

'Mr. Clean' Obama has a deeply dirty background, but for now no scale of evidence will stop the swooning Obama zombies from believing the hype or burst their reality bubble. That is going to take hard experience and it could take some time and a lot of disappointment before they are released from the clutches of cognitive dissonance and have to admit to themselves they have been had.

It is the same for all the black people who voted for what they thought was the first black president when, in truth, he is a man in a black mask representing the interests of the white-faced Illuminati cabal, the very families and networks that ran the slave trade.

I don't want to be the bringer of bad news or the thwarter of dreams, but honesty demands it. The man is a trickster controlled by supertricksters. A sock puppet controlled by bigger sock puppets who serve an even greater and darker evil. To his masters, Obama is just a means to an end and if it suits them to assassinate him to trigger civil war and upheaval in the United States then that is what they will do.

Oh dear Oprah, how will you cope when reality dawns? But, then, will it ever??

'What? You mean you're not the Lord?'

I can understand the appeal of Obama because people want him to be what he claims to be, but isn't. They are sick of the conflict, the corruption, the struggle we call 'life' and they want it all to change. But Obama's change is illusory and represents only the continued transformation of society in the image envisaged by Orwell.

We will see some apparently good things announced, like the closing of Guantanamo, to give the impression that Obama means what he says. But keep your eye on the ball and you'll see how the agenda of the global tyranny is introduced under the guise of Obama's 'hope', 'change', 'believe', 'sacrifice' and 'coming together'.

It could take two years, maybe much more, before cognitive dissonance (lying to yourself) loses it current grip on the minds of the Obama faithful. Until then they will make endless excuses for him (lie to themselves) to keep the 'dream' alive.

But one day they will have to admit, by the power of the evidence before them, that they bought a dream and got a nightmare. What a pity they can't see the obvious now and save them themselves such painful disappointment. D Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281
http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Obama Deception -- full length video on google



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post-Endgame, the new one starts, huh?

Great link, QuitTheirClogs, thanks. And as you've revived the thread, I'll take issue with the previous post where the article defines:-

"cognitive dissonance" [as] "(lying to yourself)"

Glib but not strictly true as CG defines the ability to hold two or more mutually incompatible concepts in one's brain at the same time.

Class 101 at Langley, maybe, but it's really a social disease...

Or maybe just quantum? ;-)

Films like this though make me wonder just how a bhodisatva like Jesus would be viewed if He returned now. My guess is He would join OBL as joint number one 'terrorist' within a year... Imagine the chaos on Wall St after He'd been through! NYPD's taser-totin' finest to the rescue?

Whatever, the message seems very plain, so what we waiting for?

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