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 Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Question for telecasterisation, re The Pentagon |
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| sam wrote: | While you're here -- as a 9/11 CT believer yourself, do you believe AA77 hit the Pentagon with its stated passengers on board, piloted by terrorist hijackers? That's a clear enough question, I hope
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No, I don’t. |
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Would you care to describe what you think actually happened at The Pentagon on 9/11, and why you think your view of events there is better supported by the evidence than the OT?
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Question for telecasterisation, re The Pentagon |
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| sam wrote: | from another thread ---
| sam wrote: | While you're here -- as a 9/11 CT believer yourself, do you believe AA77 hit the Pentagon with its stated passengers on board, piloted by terrorist hijackers? That's a clear enough question, I hope
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No, I don’t. |
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Would you care to describe what you think actually happened at The Pentagon on 9/11, and why you think your view of events there is better supported by the evidence than the OT? |
By 'OT', you mean Official Theory? If so, are you saying that even the official version of events is theoretical? I have always see it as the 'OV', Official Version as the chain of events is supposedly carved in stone. What are you not sure about to term any part of it theoretical?
As for The Pentagon, it is for me like every aspect of 9/11, extremely murky, due entirely to the lack of evidence of anything substantive. The most (arguably) important military installation on the planet, and all that exists in the way of video evidence is a 'something' captured by a B&Q surveillance camera.
This entire subject could be put to bed if video was released that showed the aircraft. Of course, I cannot say, you cannot say if it exists - but it makes no logical sense that there is not something out there collected at the time that proves it was the aircraft in question.
I am quite happy to accept it was a plane, but no-one has made any attempt to squash the CT aspect, no-one in a position to do so. All the Loose Changes of the world could have been kicked into touch if those in authority holding all the evidence had simply fronted up to start with. Instead we have WTC7 reports left wanting, a totally incomplete and lacklustre 'official' investigation, evidence rapidly removed etc - and it is that more than ANYTHING that points at some form of coverup.
You can ask for evidence of this or that, but of course it doesn't exist, you can only ever hope for opinions which develop into any number of daft exchanges, which go nowhere. This is where I see you continually going wrong - CT is seldom about tangible evidence, for it then ceases to be a 'theory' - CT is more a collection of circumstances that simply don't add up and point to something other than what you are told.
So to answer your question, I have no idea what happened at The Pentagon - it is the ethereal nature of the 'evidence' that makes it all so unknown. It is that and only that, that leaves me questioning how a fully fuelled jet can crash into a building without anything like the fireball the 'others' created. Why no videos released from the surrounding hotels/buildings? I will not be drawn into debates about wreckage, or bodies, or holes.
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Question for telecasterisation, re The Pentagon |
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | sam wrote: | from another thread ---
| sam wrote: | While you're here -- as a 9/11 CT believer yourself, do you believe AA77 hit the Pentagon with its stated passengers on board, piloted by terrorist hijackers? That's a clear enough question, I hope
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No, I don’t. |
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Would you care to describe what you think actually happened at The Pentagon on 9/11, and why you think your view of events there is better supported by the evidence than the OT? |
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So to answer your question, I have no idea what happened at The Pentagon
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Very disappointing.
Your first answer puts you in the CT camp, firmly and squarely, given your denial that AA77 hit the Pentagon with all souls on board and piloted by terrorists. Yet your explanation for this position boils down to "it all looks a bit dodgy to me, I'm not too sure what was going on there, so I'll side with the CT".
Incidentally (i), security videos tend to be looking down at the business (petrol pumps, car parks etc) rather than huge buildings across the way on the horizon.
Incidentally (ii), the fireball was massive, as shown on the Pentagon car park security video. But of course the building was reinforced concrete rather than steel framed construction. In particular, the facade impacted was heavily reinforced concrete and the fireball didn't exit in the dramatic manner of the WTC buildings.
Incidentally (iii), statements like "I will not be drawn into debates about wreckage, or bodies, or holes" is really a very cheap way to avoid discussing compelling evidence that would make your superficial CT stance uncomfortable. For example, the DNA of every passenger and crew-member (except one child) was cross-matched to samples taken from their homes. With one hand-wave you excuse yourself from discussing this? Feeble stuff, telecasterisation. Very feeble indeed.
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