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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Another [final?] UK MOD File release on UFOs Reply with quote

Added to the secret UN meeting information and the Vatican's press release we have yet another MOD announcement about its archived files on UFO sightings and research. Is this part of the plan to gently introduce the extra-terrestrial reality to the global public? Nick Pope who was interviewed by Exopolitics UK suggested that maybe Mars and the new range of powerful space telescopes maybe the avenue used for this purpose.



Essentially such announcements and file releases are pretty basic as far as disclosure of exopolitical issues goes. What we need urgently is more discussion of the deeper, underlying problems and benefits we face as the human species openly interfaces with ethical, advanced cultures.

Alfred Webre, Paola Harris and Michael Salla have all been interviewed today on cost to coast on this issue. I have it if anyone wants it.

British Government releases UFO files
By Graham Tibbetts - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1952867/British-Government-rele ases-UFO-files.html


The most comprehensive Government files on UFO activity are opened to the public for the first time today and they disclose that even air traffic controllers and police officers have seen mysterious craft in the skies over Britain.

The sightings range from incredible tales of little green men visiting the Wirral to corroborated accounts from policemen and pilots of Unidentified Flying Objects hovering above towns and cities.

All are recorded on official forms, held by air bases and police stations, and compiled by the Ministry of Defence between 1978 and 2002.

Disclosed for the first time is a report from three experienced air traffic controllers who attempted to "talk in" a UFO which landed on the runway before them. The incident occurred on April 19, 1984, at an East Anglian airfield which was operating two runways called 22 and 27.

In the control tower a senior air traffic controller (satco) was supervising his deputy and an assistant.

According to the report, the deputy was in contact with a light aircraft preparing to land on runway 22 when the satco noticed lights approaching the other runway.

The unidentified object came in at speed, made a touch and go on runway 27 then departed at terrific speed in a near vertical climb, according to the files.

It was described as a "brilliant solid ball of light, bright silvery in colour". The file noted that "witnesses do not wish to be identified in case their professional integrity is questioned".

Others in the aviation industry also encountered unidentified flying objects, including a Sea King helicopter crew who tracked two objects on their radar for 40 miles, travelling at almost one nautical mile per second, in September 1985.

Four months later two constables in Woking police station, Surrey, saw a white light with a tail above the town centre which then "descended into the Horshall area".

They reported it to their inspector, who recorded it as a "genuine report" but noted that the officers were slightly embarrassed because Horshall Common features in the works of the science fiction writer HG Wells.

They were not alone. In June 1984, three officers at Edgware station in north London had been called to a garden after a sighting in Stanmore.

On their arrival the uniformed officers found a "flashing light 45 degrees up in the sky" with a "dome on top and underneath" which they watched through binoculars.

"We observed the object for one hour. During this period of time the object moved erratically from side to side, up and down and to and fro, not venturing far from its original position," wrote the officers, who also sketched a cartoon-like image of the spacecraft.

But a couple in the Wirral claimed to have had an encounter of an altogether closer kind.

The husband reported visiting bases in Cheshire of green aliens, including one called Elgar who was killed by another race in 1984.

His wife saw their craft crash over Wallasey Town Hall but the official response was recorded as a terse "no reply".

The documents are contained in eight files that have been released under the Freedom of Information Act.

Over the next four years more than 150 files will be made available at the National Archive in Kew, south-west London.

Nick Pope, who worked for the MoD for 21 years and was responsible for investigating the sightings, said: "Most of the UFO sightings here are probably misidentifications of aircraft lights and meteors, but some are more difficult to explain."

http://www.exopolitics.org.uk/news/2008/britain%27s-ufo-file-release-% 11-again!/

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Another [final?] UK MOD File release on UFOs Reply with quote

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Is this part of the plan to gently introduce the extra-terrestrial reality to the global public?


Or is it part of the plan to gently introduce the extra-terrestrial demonic psyop to the global public?


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from linking to the site via clicking on the picture i am slighty puzzled about what that website thinks.

it seems to be unable to make up its mind as to if aliens are real or just a hoax inorder to give us a false enemy inorder to use the situation for global domination.

regardless U.F.O. sightings that are unexplained do not mean the only possible answer is aliens. yet even a whisper of such things(u.f.o) instantly gets linked to E.T.

the MOD has released information reported by members of the public. all that matters is....

A. did it really happen.

B. what was it.

if the answer is a) yes and b) certainly something from outside this world, then what?

it dos'nt really matter IMO, the fact is these sightings occur whatever they are. they happen, they are real.

that is the first issue people need to understand. only then would it be possible to enquire(properly) as to what they are or what causes them.

by properly i mean the subject being treated seriously in the public domain and amongst all experts in various fields. that is if they are slowly letting us know.

there is to much disinfo and hoaxs around in the ridicule era to enable anyone to know either way for sure. the only thing that i am sure of is that u.f.o. sightings of strange things or craft are real.

but only when the public and experts take it seriously and information is disclosed will the truth start to surface. but somehow i don't see it happening.

if there is long enough left on this insane planet, i can easily imagine many still debating it, many still reporting u.f.o's and the others calling them nuts 50 years from now. afterall they are easy to explain, chinese lanterns or nutjobs, job done, issue over, beliefs left intact.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a big clue,a mention of the guy who wrote 'The New World Order' in 1940:

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Four months later two constables in Woking police station, Surrey, saw a white light with a tail above the town centre which then "descended into the Horshall area".

They reported it to their inspector, who recorded it as a "genuine report" but noted that the officers were slightly embarrassed because Horshall Common features in the works of the science fiction writer HG Wells

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres another clue.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=the+secret+NASA+transmissions. +&sitesearch=video.google.com

watch the last 30 mins for 'the footage'.

alien or not, there is something up there that is inteligently controlled.

this is the first issue to understand. hoax scenerio or not, they 'U.F.O' are real.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this part of the plan to gently introduce the extra-terrestrial reality to the global public?


Possibly propaganda to justify a US Starwars programme. Remember they want full spectrum domination (rule space) so they need something to justify spending billions of dollars. Remember it was Reagan who spoke about an alien threat in a serious speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eILzaCA05vc

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Another [final?] UK MOD File release on UFOs Reply with quote

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utopiated wrote:
Is this part of the plan to gently introduce the extra-terrestrial reality to the global public?


Or is it part of the plan to gently introduce the extra-terrestrial demonic psyop to the global public?


Well the point is we don't know.

It is likely that as Wernher von Braun said

http://www.exopolitics.org.uk/carol-rosin-%11-the-final-deception/ [new video added]

and Dr Steven Greer has discussed many times

http://www.exopolitics.org.uk/alien-false-flagging-and-arvs-%11-video- introduction/
or http://www.exopolitics.org.uk/alien-false-flagging-%11-video-introduct ion/

..the use of the ET meme/reality will be the ultimate staged geopolitical event. But in my book this one will ONLY be pulled out of the bag when

a: The above government faction[s] are really, really desperate

b: when the public have sufficient knowledge [conditioning?] to make it a feasible option with tangible results [ie: martial law clamp-down?].


This is not about validating the ETI reality Tony - this bit is done and dusted. What it is about is researchers finindg out to what extent any alien groups are working for "non-ethical" exopolitical agendas with global black project/govt. structures.

There are ways of finding out that if UFOs/ETVs/ARVs arrive above your head you can work on whether these are the clunky replica vehicles of the military or indeed highly advanced craft from other worlds and dimensions. BUT without knowledge and awareness from raised consciousness - this is nigh-on impossible.

Jim Sparks is one such person who has seen first hand the liasion between cutting edge military/science groups and 3 types of ET.

Jim's interviews and data: http://tinyurl.com/6d26jq

We have booked Jim to talk on this and his ideas on releasing currently sequestered energy tech other issues in Auguest in the UK Midlands.

Please see this link: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14690

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so therefore the nasa footage showing many inteligently controlled objects which very much appear to be spacecraft of some sort does not exsist?

did anybody watch the last half hour of that documantary i linked to?

if it is a hoax scenerio and those craft are not alien, then im afraid they already have the capability to pull of a hoax alien attack, and no money needs wasting on properganda to 'fool' the public.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so therefore the nasa footage showing many inteligently controlled objects which very much appear to be spacecraft of some sort does not exsist?

did anybody watch the last half hour of that documantary i linked to?

if it is a hoax scenerio and those craft are not alien, then im afraid they already have the capability to pull of a hoax alien attack, and no money needs wasting on properganda to 'fool' the public.


Yes I've seen it loads. Each bit in detail I used bits at my exopolitics talk at Beyond Knowledge but I got cut short before I wrapped up the conclusion using STS 48 and 2 others. Also missed John L Walsom's amazing footage due to time... check these *:
http://www.exopolitics.org.uk/2007/winter/above-your-heads-%11-black-o ps,-star-wars-or-et?/

Who said they were all fake or terrestrial craft in the posts above?? Not me.
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Who said they were all fake or terrestrial craft in the posts above?? Not me.


i was replying to fish's comments.

people seem to ignore the evidence and keep spouting it is an alien hoax.

which for all i know it may well be. but they seem to miss the point that regardless of if it is an alien hoax or not, u.f.o's are real.

thats all my point is.

but even when this fact is accepted but you still believe it is an alien hoax, i don't see why they would need to fool the public into believing anything. if they are not alien craft then they have the capability to pull of the hoax scenerio without uttering one word either way to the public.

none of this was aimed at you. thanks for the links checking them now.
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I think it was a very dark day for us all when it suddenly hit the US gov't that if people will believe in 'flying saucers' they'll buy nigh on ANYTHING they tell them, no matter how fantastical or full of holes. So here we are today in a world where most people believe 9/11 could have happened as they told us it did when in fact it couldn't.
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so whats in the nasa footage then MR expert? don't tell me. you did'nt look.

watch the last 30mins.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=the+secret+NASA+transmissions. +&sitesearch=video.google.com

then give us your expert opinion.

heres some help. ice crystals, space debris, comets, meteorites, and anything that is a none inteligent body wondering aimlessly in space or in orbit, do not wonder into shot at a certain speed then lose all momentum and stop for while before moving of in another direction.

nor do they change direction whilst traveling at speed. nor do they pulse.
they also do not form perfect circles with other objects and then begin to flash once they are all in postion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pawTzpNKW4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jpUPLqLhA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qYl1OMM0fk&feature=related
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I think it was a very dark day for us all when it suddenly hit the US gov't that if people will believe in 'flying saucers' they'll buy nigh on ANYTHING they tell them,


That's an uninformed view of what's going on today awareness wise.

We've had 60 years to sift through so called "UFO" data and have drawn basic conclusions as to what's going on.

9/11 has had 7 years and still no-one's got a clue about what really went on.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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heres another clue.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=the+secret+NASA+transmissions. +&sitesearch=video.google.com

watch the last 30 mins for 'the footage'.

alien or not, there is something up there that is inteligently controlled.

this is the first issue to understand. hoax scenerio or not, they 'U.F.O' are real.


I don't doubt the likely existance of unknown life forms,and UFO's.The only thing I have a problem with is their use as a tool of terror,that has been fairly well documented,and further promoted in film and fiction media for generations.

The conclusion must be self evident,shouldn't it?

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I don't doubt the likely existance of unknown life forms,and UFO's.


im not sure about 'unknown' lifeforms but its certainly a possibility. you seem to understand that the u.f.o thing is a real thing. i believe this is the first thing people need to understand. what they are and their purpose will only become evident once the subject is taken seriously IMO, and more research is done or more information released.


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The only thing I have a problem with is their use as a tool of terror,that has been fairly well documented,and further promoted in film and fiction media for generations.


i don't doubt that is a possibility, but i fail to see how people can get to this step when they cannot bare to cross the first step. ie: u.f.o's are real.

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The conclusion must be self evident,shouldn't it?


i disagree with this part. it might be self evident to you. but for me there are many reason or possibilities and indeed many theorys(some most likely disinfo some not) knocking around the web. i find it impossible to know what the situation is or who is right or wrong. all that can be said for certain IMO from the evidence is they(u.f.o craft) are real and they do exsist.

i do not doubt though that some films have promoted alien attacks, but at the same time there have been many films promoting alien/human unity.

more disclosure and mainstream research is needed IMO.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the camp that believe UFO's exist....

My problem is thus:

1. Are they black project vehicles?

2. Are they "little green men from outta space"

I'm mostly tempted to think black project vehicles.

I suppose if they are going to be used for terror, then a UFO attack would be the logical step, imagine the world being terrified by alien attack, when the vehicle used is no more than a home made one.
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