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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: BBC Diatribe: When sceptics fight back Reply with quote

BBC: When sceptics fight back

Conspiracy theorists have used the internet to co-ordinate increasingly slick attacks on the accepted versions of events, but now a group of scientists and sceptics has decided it's time to organise and fight back.

Conspiracy theories are pervasive and popular.
A poll for the Scripps Howard media organisation in 2006 suggested 36% of Americans suspected government involvement or deliberate inaction in the 9/11 attacks, and belief in a Kennedy conspiracy ran at 40% in the same poll.

A decade after Princess Diana's death, one survey found a fifth of Britons believed she was murdered. And to millions across the world, 2009's Apollo Moon landing 40th anniversary was a hollow sham because we have never been there.

Conspiracy theories predate the internet but the web has provided a fast, accessible platform for groups to unite, gather research and disseminate information without even meeting or leaving their houses.

While many people find harmless fun, others believe there is a darker truth - that conspiracy theories are rewriting history, warping the present and altering the future. Enough is enough they say - it's time to fight back.

Isolated sceptics
Enter the sceptics with the gathering of The Amazing Meeting (TAM) in London, the first of the conferences outside the US. A fundraising offshoot of the non-profit James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), TAM London saw scientists, writers and comedians target conspiracy theories - and their close cousins pseudoscience and medical quackery - in front of an audience loosely allied by their desire for more rational, critical thinking.
"A lot of sceptics feel very isolated," says psychologist and magician Prof Richard Wiseman. "It's not a popular position to be saying 'Father Christmas does not exist' so it motivates people and acts as a springboard for people to see what we're up to."

Many conspiracy theorists believed the government was complicit in 9/11
This brand of scepticism is not new. The movement was first galvanised in the early 80s when spoon-benders like Uri Geller claimed not to be magicians, but to really have paranormal powers. It was an age that saw a test of Geller's abilities make its way into the prestigious journal Nature.
The internet era has changed everything. The web-only film Loose Change, which questions the findings of the 9/11 commission, had already been viewed 10 million times by May 2006. It has had a massive impact. But the sceptics are also using the internet to organise loose networks of informal meetings.

In one theory the Pentagon was hit by a missile not a plane
However, using the same medium to fight back is not easy, as British investigative journalist Jon Ronson found when he posted on the British 9/11 Truth Campaign website. Abused and ridiculed, his integrity was questioned because he is Jewish. "When I found myself being attacked by 9/11 conspiracy theorists I found the sceptical community very supportive," says Ronson. "When believers turn on you it is horrible. I've stopped engaging with them because it's like prodding a snake."
Ronson has spent a lifetime lifting the lid on the unusual. He is about to come to greater prominence after being portrayed by Ewan McGregor in the upcoming film, The Men who Stare at Goats, also starring George Clooney. Ronson's book of the same name revealed that the US operated a secret army of psychic spies in the 1970s and 80s.
But the sceptics movement is not just about tackling conspiracy theorists who spread their message by independent means on the internet, there is also a drive to tackle bad reporting of science in the mainstream media.

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Dr Ben Goldacre's Bad Science website has served as a conduit for those who want to help counter the ceaseless torrent of articles pushed out by snake oil sellers, lazy journalists and badly behaved editors. He has been the leading critic of the media's treatment of the MMR scare.
His solution is to bypass conventional routes to the public. "Mainstream media has repeatedly shown itself to be worse than useless in reporting science and health in many, many fields," says Goldacre. "Scientists should communicate directly with the public via blogs."
These sceptics can garner a good deal of public support. David Aaronovitch has given popular talks to accompany his anti-conspiracy theory book, Voodoo Histories. Goldacre speaks at contemporary music festivals.

Glenn Hill, son of one of the fairy hoaxers, addressed the sceptics
And TAM London's 600 seats - at £175 a pop - were snapped up in 52 minutes - despite sceptics' high priest James Randi not attending due to ill health. Instead, Randi addressed an enraptured audience via video link like a general before battle, telling delegates that "it wasn't easy to get people out of beliefs in the woo-woo world".
Randi's foundation was established in 1996 to help debunk paranormal and pseudoscientific claims, but his Paranormal Challenge prize dates back to 1964 when the sceptic offered $1,000 to anyone who could prove the paranormal was real. Donations swelled the booty to more than a million dollars, but no applicants have passed the preliminary test.
The energy at events like TAM London is tangible, but are sceptics just preaching to the choir and can their success be measured?
JREF president Dr Phil Plait cites the myth that an egg laid on the first day of spring will stand on one end. Plait says that 10 years ago half of his audience had heard of the story - now that figure is less than 10%, which he says is down to using the web to disseminate articles that prove the claim is nonsense. "Legends do die," he says.
Then there is the image or branding problem. Not all delegates like the term "sceptic" because it has negative, "anti" connotations, similar to the way atheists are defined by something they don't believe in.
As a result, some delegates prefer to call themselves rationalists, free-thinkers or Brights. "Out there in the audience is the next generation of bloggers and media professionals," Plait says.
But even if the word is spread, will conspiracy theory believers ever listen?
Adam Savage, presenter of the television programme Mythbusters, which uses science to challenge urban legends, is not overly optimistic. He says he doesn't know of any conversions following his Emmy-nominated programme that tested Moon hoax theories.
"They want to believe desperately that someone is in charge," he says. "Even if it is someone who is working against us."

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello flamesong..

what are your views on "sceptics".?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could I possibly answer that question without generalising?

Perhaps it would be helpful if you were to say what motivates you to ask.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a vague question.
What are yours Blackbear?

blackbear wrote:
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what are your views on "sceptics".?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serves Ronson right for being a smug little know-it-all dick, no matter what his background
Like the JREF crew - disastrous antilife masturbators
175 quid a shot? Yuck, they should be shot. They love and hate themselves for their clever cynicism
These people were all over here once.
What's their problem?
JREF, Ben Goldacre, Charlie Brooker, the Peep Show,South Park theyre all bad and with some good at the same time
Smarmy consensus supporters who hate themselves for it

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyonr hear Mike (Porky)Parry on Talksport claim the Empire State building differs in design from the twin towers as it is like a solid piece of marble(sic), therefore planes can crash into it without universal collapse? Laughing How would the people walk about in a "solid piece of marble" not a very practical design for a building porky! Laughing [/i]
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"When I found myself being attacked by 9/11 conspiracy theorists I found the sceptical community very supportive," says Ronson. "When believers turn on you it is horrible. I've stopped engaging with them because it's like prodding a snake."

Poor lad, must have been very distressing for him. Sheesh.
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