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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I think the much over-used word 'bizarre' fits perfectly here:-

http://saladin-avoiceinthewilderness.blogspot.com/2010/10/bizarre-bbc- alien-disclosure-commercial.html

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Rhetorical Q: Just what is the Beeb playing at here, Tony? Do we blame Bernays or what? :(

http://mackwhite.com/tv.html

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... ... ...This numbing of the brain's cognitive function is compounded by another shift which occurs in the brain when we watch television. Activity in the higher brain regions (such as the neo-cortex) is diminished, while activity in the lower brain regions (such as the limbic system) increases. The latter, commonly referred to as the reptile brain, is associated with more primitive mental functions, such as the "fight or flight" response. ... ... ...


This author has conflated the limbic with the reptilian but it doesn't diminish the article, IMO ;-)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do we blame Bernays or what? Sad


Was he/it a human, Only? and the same question to the authors of all those articles?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bernays, Lippman, Goebbels, Regev etc etc - what's the difference? Hardly one 'decent' 'human' characteristic amongst the lot of them, IMO. A common trait is the propensity to lie for the sake of lying; arrogance paramount.

Psychopaths certainly... but if you are implying extra-terrestrial traits, I don't agree. As far as I am concerned, certain humans have evil built into their nature, other humans can be so easily led by their glitz and 'glamour'...

Ditch the banksters; ditch materialism; ditch fear of want and need then far more people would have a chance of leading lives dedicated to good works for the benefit of all. I think Schumacher had some great ideas to impart on this subject in http://www.scribd.com/doc/563164/Goodwork-EF-Schumacher

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Psychopaths certainly



Then all consciousness is made of matter (materialism) chemicals, atoms, etc Only? "A common trait is the propensity to lie"?

No consequences for doing wrong (evil)?

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but if you are implying extra-terrestrial traits


The advert video is about "Alien disclosure" but it implies we, are human Only.

Is intelligence inherited and genetic (matter) Only?
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Hundred of thousands maybe millions of people have seen moving lights in the sky with no explanation. The evidence is there in the reports which have been given to the police and other authorities, There are governments who accept the existence of these 'space ships' [Norway, France, India, etc] and many books have been written by and about people who have met 'off world space travellers', been inside their craft and even travelled in them.

Biologists say that taking into account the billions of 'suns' out there, and many of which have planets orbiting them, there will be some on which the conditions for life and evolution [water, oxygen, carbon] will exist.

There are governments who accept the existence of these 'space ships' [Norway, France, India, etc] and many books have been written by and about people who have met 'off world space travellers', been inside their craft and even travelled in them.

for more Info check out Dr Steven Greer, [ http://vimeo.com/13212793],
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternative 3


This black operation involves huge underground tunnels and cities, extraterrestrial bases on the moon and Mars, and utilizes anti-gravity flying disks and huge cigar shaped craft to shuttle between the earth, moon and Mars. This 4:40 hour video documentary offers an amazing amount of proof and concludes that Alternative Three is not a hoax, but a real program. There is evidence that Alternative Three may be at Tithonia and is excavating the site. Explores the claims of Bob Lazar and John Lear, both of whom claim we have secret bases on the moon and Mars and have had them for years. Also deeply explores Alternative One, chem-trails, the coming Ice Age and much, much more. This is a must for the serious person looking for the real truth behind many odd sightings around the world today


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a very curious & recent sighting.
Believed to be Chinese military test flight across the Pacific?
Appears to decellerate through the sound barrier while flying past.
Quite an incredible bit of film.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitehall_Bin_Men wrote:
Here's a very curious & recent sighting.
Believed to be Chinese military test flight across the Pacific?
Appears to decellerate through the sound barrier while flying past.
Quite an incredible bit of film.


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one heck of a chemtrail Wink

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mmmmmmmmmm...............

Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientists
Rising greenhouse emissions could tip off aliens that we are a rapidly expanding threat, warns a report
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airborne laser system now fully functional. Can shoot air and ground targets. Frying victims...


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blimp like a ufo - 20 days endurance!!!

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air launched uav

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Peter Levenda was the president of the international division of Ortronics, Inc., a telecommunications company based in Asia. He is a native of the Bronx, New York, and has been investigating and writing about the connections that exist between politics, religion and history since the 1970s. His first book, Unholy Alliance: A History of Nazi Involvement with the Occult, was published in 1994 and bears a foreword by Norman Mailer. Since then, he has published Sinister Forces: A Grimoire of American Political Witchcraft, a three-volume magnum opus that searches for the meaning behind some of the most famous historical events in American history, from the Salem witchcraft trials to Jonestown, from Operation Paperclip to the weaponizing of the paranormal, from the serial killer phenomenon to the Manson Family and beyond, and exposes some of the strangest aspects of American political assassinations and their relation to a shadowy -- yet well-documented -- group known as "The Nine". His research has taken him to Chile during the Pinochet regime to investigate Nazi war criminals, to China, India, all over Southeast Asia, and throughout Europe and Latin America. His work has been praised by Paul Krassner, Jim Hougan, Dick Russell, Jim Marrs, Whitley Strieber, Katherine Neville, and many others.
He appeared in the TNT documentary Faces of Evil as an expert on Nazi history with special regard to occult and esoteric practices. He has also appeared on the History Channel special Nazi Prophecies. Levenda lives in Miami, Florida.

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Close encounters of the Home Counties kind: Two 'alien aircraft' sightings in one week in 'UK's UFO hotspot'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087848/Two-alien-aircraft-sig htings-week-Chatham-Kent--UKs-UFO-hotspot.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

6 UFOs are snapped just 30 miles apart in Britain - Korea Times 11:53 Sat, 21 Jan 2012
6 UFOs are snapped just 30 miles apart in Britain
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Six suspected UFOs were captured in these two astonishing snaps taken in neighboring counties, British media reported.
The sightings — looking remarkably similar — were just 30 miles apart in the UK's UFO hotspot, the report said.
Close encounter No. 1 came in Chatham, Kent, 10 days ago at 1 p.m. as Ernestas Griksas, 21, snapped a cherry-picker outside his window.
When he looked at the pic afterwards he spotted strange objects in the sky. He said: "There are two white discs I can't explain. I'm nowhere near a flightpath. One is slightly fainter as if it is further away or going at a different speed," according to The Sun newspaper.
Close encounter No. 2 was last Friday at 7 a.m. when car salesman Josh Cummins spotted four bright objects hovering in pairs as he drove to work through Loughton, Essex.
Josh, 21, said: "I nearly crashed. I stopped to take this picture with my mobile. It was like the UFOs were surfing the clouds. They were there for 15 seconds then vanished.
"I wasn't a believer in UFOs but this made me think again."
Expert Nick Pope said: "The South East is now the hotspot for UFO sightings."

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm becoming a bit more open-minded about UFO's (probably senility catching up with me!).

UFO Crash in Peru:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VaeZRH9R2Y


Deathbed Testimony About UFOs Given By Former CIA Official:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C19GunC0XjY


UFO Government Secrets Unveiled:

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The sixth "UFO Hypotheses" DVD follows Michael Schratt, who first made a splash with a series of exotic UFO photos.

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Schratt has visited Area 51 several times and filmed UFOs there. Schratt is a specialist doing civilian research in the aerospace industry and black budget projects, and he shares his own opinions (which he does not necessarily offer in his public lectures) in a brisk and interesting interview with Rick Keefe, following Schatt's both visually involving and informative southern Arizona MUFON lecture regarding the state of the military, NORAD, NASA and the aerospace industry in the United States today. Intended for mature audiences

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Whilst I have become more open to reality of UFO's, that someone would be able to film in Area 51 makes NO SENSE AT ALL.
There is 'shoot to kill' security at Area 51; they are going to let a civilian go in and film, and then broadcast his films? Make sense? Not to me.
However, there are a number of credible people who have speculated that the NWO would stage a 'Fake Alien attack', in order to finalise their 'One World Government' (including Ian Crane and 'Bill' Cooper - assassinated in a police ambush - he foretold 9/11, and was a big-time thorn in the 'Shadow Government's' side - and he actually said he saw a huge 'Flying Saucer' descend into the water whilst in the military on a navy ship, and the the crew were threatened to never discuss anything they had seen, under draconian penalties (as in the case of the US Liberty survivors). Bill also thought Alex Jones was working for the Government (which I disagree with) and that David Icke was a phony (which opinion I have a great deal of sympathy with)
So, whilst I haven't watched the video (it's 2 hours long!) it looks very likely the 'Powers' are softening up the public to be more willing to believe a fake 'Alien Attack'. Such an 'Alien Attack' would allow the merger of Western, Russian and Chinese forces to fight this 'Invasion', without causing total disbelief in the 'Sheeple Public's' minds. Result? 'One World Government'.

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Wow- wow pretty conclusive this one - not!
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Here's an interesting Russian documentary:

'Third Reich - Operation UFO (Nazi Base In Antarctica) Complete Documentary':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw

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Has the mystery of 'Britain's Roswell' finally been solved? Rendlesham Forest UFO 'landing' was a prank SAS tricksters played on US Airmen, insiders claim
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6539849/Has-mystery-Britains- Roswell-finally-solved.html

By Jessica Green For Mailonline 12:33, 30 Dec 2018, updated 12:39, 30 Dec 2018

Rendlesham Forest incident in Suffolk, has intrigued UFO enthusiasts since 1980
Military personnel said they saw lights flying in the woods in December that year
The group was largely convinced they had witnessed an alien spacecraft
Yet it has now been claimed that the extraterrestrial sighting was a hoax
Dubbed ‘Britain’s Roswell’, the Rendlesham Forest incident in Suffolk, has intrigued UFO enthusiasts since taking place in December 1980.

On three separate nights just before the New Year, military personnel said they saw lights flying in the sky and descending into the woodland - the group was convinced they had seen an alien spacecraft.

Yet it has now been claimed that the extraterrestrial sighting was a hoax, played on the US air force by the SAS in revenge for capturing a squad and subjecting them to a brutal interrogation.

Since the incident in 1980, Rendlesham Forest has become a site of endless speculation for UFO chasers +7
Since the incident in 1980, Rendlesham Forest has become a site of endless speculation for UFO chasers
The SAS were said to have regularly tested US security by probing the perimeters of RAF Woodbridge in the English county, which allegedly stored Nuclear warheads and was believed to be a key target for Soviet agents.

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They claimed they were beaten up by their captors who refused to believe who they were and repeatedly referred to as ‘unidentified aliens’, before being released 18 hours later after the British authorities intervened.

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On three separate nights just before the New Year, military personnel said they saw lights flying in the sky and descending into the woodland (pictured)
Staff Sergeant Jim Penniston sketched the craft he says he saw at the time of the incident +7
Staff Sergeant Jim Penniston sketched the craft he says he saw at the time of the incident
Seething from the interrogation, SAS soldiers were keen to take revenge.

British X-Files expert Dr David Clarke, who has been researching the story for three years, revealed: ‘After their release, the troopers made no complaint at their rough treatment but were determined to get their own back on the USAF for the beating that they had received.

‘In particular, their repeated characterisation as “aliens” sowed the seeds of a plan. They said: “They called us aliens. Right, we'll show them what aliens really look like.”’

As December approached, lights and coloured flares were rigged in Rendlesham Forest. Black helium balloons were also coupled to remote-controlled kites to carry suspended materials into the sky, activated by radio-controls.

Taking place over three nights between 26 and 28 December in 1980, military personnel from nearby RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge witnessed strange lights in the woods and hovering above the airbases which were on high alert as the Cold War was at its peak.

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‘A great deal of nocturnal Christmas fun was had at the expense of the USAF - and the matter should have ended there,’ according to a letter written to Dr Clarke by an alleged SAS source.

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‘Unfortunately, a senior US officer (Lt Col Halt) led the US contingent out into the forest on the second night and took along his tape recorder.

‘The hovering and whizzing lights were sufficiently impressive for him to send a report to the MoD.

‘Someone in London recalled the events of the previous August and questions were asked. A few red faces - but also some satisfaction and amusement - followed.

Military personnel from nearby RAF Bentwaters (pictured) and RAF Woodbridge witnessed strange lights in the woods and hovering above the airbases +7
Military personnel from nearby RAF Bentwaters (pictured) and RAF Woodbridge witnessed strange lights in the woods and hovering above the airbases
‘The USAF was 'reassured' at a very senior level and no UK investigation was undertaken - for obvious reasons.’

Dr Clarke said he was first contacted three years ago by ‘Frank’ who claimed to be a SAS insider.

He had seen Dr Clarke talking about Rendlesham on a TV documentary and felt ‘it was about time that the truth was revealed about the incident’.

Dr Clarke, of the Centre for Contemporary Legend at Sheffield Hallam University, said: ‘I investigated his incredible story by talking to trusted and open sources in the British military, including some high profile former SAS troopers.

‘What happened in the forest, according to Frank, would be bread and butter for special operation soldiers trained to deceive and misinform whilst remaining invisible.’

RENDLESHAM FOREST INCIDENT

In December 1980, strange lights were reported by servicemen in Rendlesham Forest near RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge, in Suffolk.

The incident came to be known as 'Britain's Roswell'; named after the supposed UFO sightings in New Mexico.

Soldiers investigated what the lights were, including Staff Sgt Jim Burroughs, Airman First Class Edward Cabansag and Airman First Class Larry Warren.

The disputed sightings, over three nights between December 26-28, occurred when Britain and the West were on high alert during the Cold War.

Retired US Air Force officer Steve Longero broke a 36 year silence in December 2016, to reveal he also saw something in the night sky.

Mr Longero said the UFOs looked like red and green fluorescent lights hovering over treetops.

He also dismissed one theory that the lights had been caused by a lighthouse.

The incident became a topic of fascination in the UK after a group of servicemen went into Rendlesham Forest to investigate the mysterious lights and came out convinced they had seen seen an alien spacecraft.

The Suffolk sightings resurfaced claims from those living in Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947, when an unexpected crash was alleged to have been the remains of a spacecraft and alien bodies.

But this was rejected by the U.S. military following a close investigation into the wreckage.

The British Ministry of Defence has also dismissed the claims regarding Rendlesham.

It said there was no threat to national security and the UFOs were likely to be caused by a series of nocturnal lights.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of the most convincing bs merchants
or a genius?
He's fallen for the Rendlesham BS

Historic British UFO mystery was 'prank played on US air force by SAS' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/30/historic-british-ufo-myste ry-prank-played-us-air-force-sas/


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