From just following media about what's been happening in Bristol, there appears to be a number of things going on:
1) Police riot training. Why were 160 cops bused in for the first night to arrest four people suspected of targeting Tesco's?
If the intention was to arrest those people then a small team with backup would seem more usual? If this is true then state
sponsored agent provocateurs are operating in Bristol.
2) A co-ordinated clampdown on anti-state, anti-capitalist, anarchist style dissent in the UK around the Royal Wedding.
The Royal Wedding was a symbolic and material re-assertion of elite power and the forces of reaction. Shutting down activist Facebook sites and
doing pre-crime arrests would fit with this plan as well. The people who run "the system" know "the system" is in crisis and want to re-assert
their power and control.
3) On the other hand lots of people living in Stokes Croft and Bristol did not want the new Tesco's to open and were pissed off that their
voices had been ignored. There is a large community of experienced activists in Bristol who are happy to resist Police provocation. There are also
lots of people living in the area who are poor, socially deprived and marginalised. Bristol is a city that is also full of affluent, privileged people.
This creates tensions that go back a long, long way. Are these riots just like the riots of the 1980's in St Pauls? They seem very different.
.... but generally I'm pretty confused. The current riots in Bristol seem to lack an ideological focus. That's what is strange about them?
The UK authorities have practiced instigating riots in a small middle class British town in preparation for things to come.
It might sound a little harsh to accuse the police of instigating the riots in Bristol on Thursday 21 April 2011. It would seem to be a conspiracy theory worthy of the broader reputation of such theories. But I have been predicting riots in Britain for a few years now. And I predict that this is just the initial rumblings of things to come.
Sometimes people do things that they don't even know they are doing. One thing that strikes me about conspiracy theories is that sometimes the theories are discredited because attributing such devious and complicated conscious motives to individuals seem unbelievable. The same theories are discredited and so the official explanation is accepted by default. But people do things more intuitively than consciously. The rationalisation more often than not comes as an explanation for the action. See Conspiracy Coincidences for an example of this dynamic.
It seems there was a Tesco store which residence were not pleased with. An understandable sentiment perhaps. And it seems there were some squatters in a building opposite the store. The police got reports that the squatters had petrol bombs and were possibly planning to burn the building down. Now why would you need a large force of riot police to deal with that? You wouldn't. But the police did have significant force hiding around the corner from the squatters residence. Okay, so they send a few police officers into the squat and arrest four people and leave. But for some strange reason several hundred residence appeared on the streets and apparently began building barricades and setting fire to rubbish bins. This is all beginning to sound a little implausible as it stands. Bath is a nice middle class English town. The police force came out of hiding and it really doesn't matter who (metaphorically) fired the first shot the fact is that there were confrontations resulting in many injuries. It seems on first reports that most of the injuries were to the police. You could almost feel sorry for the police.
What is also very interesting is that many of the local residence interviewed expressed the view that it was fun and exciting. Overall it seems that the incident was a small insignificant event in the larger picture or British or world history. But why were the police so well prepared and why did the local people feel that this was a fun event? Most people are not happy at the prospects of riots in their neighbourhood. The answer lies in the state of world politics.
We live in a hierarchy of oppression. The unrest, protests, riots and revolutions currently filling our television screens and internet browsers are basically people-power objecting to the extremities of oppression. They have nothing left to lose. And the Western World is keeping its populations appeased by responding in the only acceptable way to maintain the illusions of reasonableness and democracy and are condemning the oppressive dictators. The Western powers will soon be hoist on their own petard. It is the Western powers that have utilised, even installed, the hierarchical oppressive regimes in the Middle East and North Africa. It is part of the pyramid of oppression. But the pyramid economy which facilitates the oppression goes deep into the structure of the Western World. Not only is the Western World's financial structure on the brink of collapse due to the excessive abuse of the banks but now the resultant economic tsunami is just beginning to crash across Europe and America from the shattering earthquake of revolution in the Middle East. As the Middle East is destabilised the price of fuel rises. I am a little amazed at how the politicians are acting almost surprised at the scale of the effect this is having on food prices and just about every other consumer product. It is like the naivety they exhibit over the power of the internet.
The politicians across Europe and America have been continuing the paradigm of oppressing the poor to keep them in line and rewarding the rich as if they are the ones who can save our society. But this is simply the crimes escalating. There is neither any moral excuse to make poor people poorer in an attempt to "save money" by claiming the need for "austerity measures" nor is there any rational pragmatic case to take more from the poor to make the rich richer. It is immoral and irrational but then when has history ever demonstrated otherwise. Compulsive human behaviour predictably gets stronger as time goes on. The idea being it has worked so far so if we simply turn up the volume it will work some more. But there is one inevitable end to that sequence. The situation will fail.
All across the Western world the populations are becoming more aware of the criminal activities of the banks. They are more aware of the deceptive behaviour of politicians. They are becoming poorer to the point that they are losing basic necessities let alone a reduction in living standards. They are close to having virtually nothing to lose and the hierarchy of power is going to be confronted by the question of how to maintain the pressure when the trouble starts. If it is so unacceptable to use bullets against a population in the Middle East the populations of Europe and America will feel confident and empowered in the same way they have seen the people of the Middle East confront their regimes. People in Britain are very close to not accepting the poverty imposed on them by the rich. And the rich/poor divide is widening fast. The illusion presented by the hierarchy is dissolving fast. More and more people are out of work. More and more young people can see no reasonable future. And it only takes a Tesco store in the wrong place to provoke a mini riot.
The police know that they do not have the resources to deal with the kind of riots that occurred in Britain several decades ago. And they would be simply overwhelmed if the intensity of protests were significantly higher. With the advent of the internet and the examples of its usefulness in the Middle East even the dumb British Bobby can see that the potential for disaster in this country is rising fast. And so can the people. The police were afraid that this situation could escalate. They were primed for it and so they were prepared for it. Their very preparation will have been stimulating to the residence and it doesn't take much on the internet to spread the news live as it happens. The police, I believe, inadvertently turned an ordinary crime prevention activity into a riot.
So if I suggest that the police instigated this riot as a test case for things to come you might now see what I mean. It is not entirely conscious. They didn't sit and plan it. But they know the delicate state of affairs and were over armed because of their fear and sure enough as soon as there was any signs of trouble they wanted to quell it fast and so used inappropriate force which caused a backlash to justify their preparedness. It's basically because we all know what is coming.
Part of the explanation given for shoring up the bankers with billions of pounds was that if their bonuses and profits were curtailed they would simply move abroad and we would lose all that expertise. But surprisingly they didn't use the money to help oil the economy (as was the condition of the money) but rather they pocketed it and asked for more. When the coffers are dry they will leave anyway. The authorities might be afraid of that but I think it would be a jolly good thing and the sooner the better. Appeasement has never worked and it won't work now. And the people of Britain (and Europe and America) are being primed for revolt. Within a year or five the whole landscape of Europe and the US will have changed dramatically. There is no amount of fudging that will stop climate change, lower world population, increase food production and generally allow the current ways of carrying on to continue. Any fix is only a temporary patch. This abusive mechanism is doomed. My best hope is that humanity can find a fundamentally different paradigm for survival.
So the mini riot in Bristol was provoked by the police (bless them) in preparation for things to come.
The Bristol riot
by Chris Bertram on April 26, 2011
Bristol had a riot last Thursday night. I wasn’t there, although I’ve spoken to a number of people who were or who observed events from windows overlooking the action. The facts are still not entirely clear, but becoming clearer. As far as I can establish them they are:
•The police received “intelligence” that someone at the squat opposite a new and locally controversial branch of Tesco (the biggest British supermarket) was planning to petrol bomb the store.
•Accordingly, a very large number of police (upwards of 160) with dogs and shields etc turned up with the aim of arresting a person or persons at the squat
•They timed their raid for about 9.15 pm on the evening before a public holiday, in a somewhat countercultural area (Stokes Croft), with lots of pubs and bars, and large numbers of semi-inebriated people hanging about in the street given the unseasonably warm temperatures.
•They started pushing people about and got pushed back, and then lots of stuff got thrown. Some of the police actions were excessive; some idiots did some nasty things to the police, such as dropping large bricks on them from the top of buildings.
•The police abandoned the scene completely some time in the small hours of the morning, leaving elements in the crowd free to attack the store, which they did. It is now fairly seriously damaged.
•Four people appear to have been charged , one with possession of a petrol bomb. That person has an address in another part of the city.
Beyond this the facts are murky.
Campaigners against the presence of Tesco have been issuing statements claiming to speak for “the community’‘, though their ability to discern the general will looks suspect to me.
Many campaigners blame the local council for giving Tesco planning permission for the store, but as far as I can see they had no legal option. This is because the store was previously used as a club/bar and so a change of use to something “less harmful” (in planning terms) is automatically granted under the guidance. Consent for retail use is, in any case, generic and not tied to a particular owner. So whilst the domination of the UK high street by Tesco may be deplorable, you can’t use their identity as a valid legal reason to block use.
The reporting was abysmal and illustrates the depths to which British journalism has sunk. Most of the early reports simply reproduced a press release from the police. Many reports claimed that the raid involved an attempt to evict squatters (it didn’t). Many reports claimed that Tesco had been fire-bombed (it wasn’t). It is clear that there were no proper reporters on the scene and that papers were willing to recycle whatever nonsense came through the wire services without checking up. Had the incident happened in London, I’m sure it would have been front-page news for days. As it was we got a little bit of very late misreporting of a serious incident: god help future historians reliant on newspaper archives!
Opinion columnists (those who could be bothered) used the opportunity to (a) get the important facts totally wrong and (b) sound off about how the incident proved the correctness of their views about everything. Sadly, this was as true of the left (Laurie Penny , who seems to have spoken to one bloke on the phone) as the right (in the shape of the absurd Stephen Pollard ).
Subsequent argument and debate also seems to me to pose some problems for UKUncut and similar campaigners. After the March 26th incidents I was a bit wary of people who made a big deal out of the popular/press fueled confusion between UKUncut and “Black Bloc” anarchists. After Bristol, I’m inclined to move the other way. UKUncut have garnered a lot of support by their innovative campaigning against corporate tax-dodgers. The very same people who they campaign against would love to undermine their public support by associating them with violence. In response to the Bristol riot, there have been numerous statements by the anti-Tesco campaigners claiming that this proved that if “the community” isn’t listened to, there will be violence. Well it is couched as a prediction, but it comes across as a threat, and it will alienate ordinary people who don’t like their high streets turned bland by chains and corporations but also don’t want anything to do with dropping bricks on policemen’s heads. Also, it is opportunistic: whilst the press and the campaigners want to build this up as an “anti-Tesco riot”, the actual cause seems to have been police arrogance and heavy-handedness. There were plainly a good number of people out there who just wanted a ruck (and that included a good number of the police), but there’s nothing specially political about that.
Every Little Helps: An Eyewitness Account Of The Bristol Riot
"At around 10pm the shouting crowds blew up in size massively..."
Last night, police fought battles with a diverse group of demonstrators on the streets of Stokes Croft, Bristol. The following is an eyewitness account:
The First Riot Funky Night in Bristol
The anger was simmering for quite some time among the Stokes Croft community in Bristol. The people had to put up with a couple of heavy-handed police evictions recently and the hated Tesco store was finally opened a week ago, despite a massive but peaceful campaign. The area is famous for its grafitti and night life now, attracting gentrification and yuppies moving in. Interestingly, the anti-Tesco sentiment became something like a broad resistance platform, uniting the remaining working class people, middle class bohemians and the student population.
The riot kicked off when the police at around 9.30pm tried to evict a squat known as Telepathic Heights, just across the road from the new Tesco Express. They claimed they were searching for petrol bombs, part of an anti-Tesco conspiracy. There were around 10 police vans with the signs HEDDLU (yes, like in the riots in the 80s, they brought in Welsh cops to smash Bristolian heads).
At around 10pm the shouting crowds blew up in size massively, as hundreds of new people turned up, navigated by the police helicopter, hovering unusually low above the Stokes Croft. The cops needed to break through from this kind of kettle and charged in. They were met by a rain of stones, bottles and the first barricade made of bins. They managed to push people back in two directions, into the narrow Picton Street and to Ashley Road, leading right into the middle of the St. Pauls area. The crowd in Picton street was smaller, mainly cafe type of people, and pacifist. The scuffles were more like a street party, just pushing back and forth, no batons, someone playing Michael Jackson's 'Beat It!' from their house, people enjoying the fun and protest. The cops eventually retreated themselves and so I moved on to Ashley Road. When I got there, the street battle moved deeper into St. Pauls and it was clear that this is gonna be a whole night party. Two lines of barricades and bins set on fire on Brigstocke road leading down to City Road, the epicentre of the famous St. Pauls riots in the 80s. Hundreds of people, very determined and more experienced, joined in by new contingents of the local black youth. Many locals got out from their houses, some with support and some shouting "get lost from my street, who the * will clean this mess?!". I spoke to some people who remembered the riots in the 80s and they were up for it. One older woman skeptically said that the area has been gentrified and the new posh population will never join this.
There is a lot of Tweeting going on about smashing Tesco as the highlight of the night. I don't think it was. There were not many people around when it got the first trash and a police car parked by was set on fire (around 2.30am?). The core of the riot at that moment was at the junction of Ashley Road and Stokes Croft, when people were throwing staff from the Ninetree Hill down on the vans, trying to join the rest of us. When, on my way home, I spoke to a bunch of local black kids and asked '"Have you heard that the new Tesco got smashed?", they looked at me with confusion and asked "No, and this bad isn't it?". My impression is that people joined the riot for different reasons: the harrassment of squatters, ethical/political issue with Tesco, the commodification of Stokes Croft, the anti-cuts sentiment. And the black disobedients from St. Pauls have probably their own accounts they need to settle with police.
Interestingly, after the last order hour the bohemian studenty arty elements became much more confident and angry with the continuing blockade of their favourite night life 'avenue'. After Tesco got the first smash, the cops were hitting us much harder, but they had to face a new crowd that recomposed during the night; all the distinct elements, all the different motivations I mentioned earlier just merged together into one whole and this, for me, was the best outcome of the first riot night in Bristol. Just watch this video and listen to the trumpet, that says it all.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:21 am Post subject:
Councillors have asked Tesco to reconsider whether or not they really want a shop there.
Going back to the original riot ... the night before Good Friday.....
Source of the petrol bomb rumours from Thursday 21st April appears to be a petrol generator kept in the house. And empty beer bottles.
Rumour is that Tesco private security reported the 'petrol bomb' rumour to police. About 2am that night private security left the former squat they had been patrolling in three shifts of four every day for the last year and Tesco was trashed.
And so called 'petrol bomber' was not it appears even arrested at the squat.
I am almost certain I have met the accused chap, Joe, who cannot read and write.
Despite all this the police did not even ask the fire brigade to attend.
And brought forces in from neighbouring constabularies which would have taken several hours to arrange. Clearly not a quick reaction to intelligence reports of a 'petrol bomb is about to be thrown' then as the senior police are saying.
All are agreed that armed, mounted, be-dogged, police presence both last Thursday and the Thursday before was way way over the top.
Ian Tomlinson syndrome, random violent police assaults on passers by or bystanders, appears to be de-rigeur in police training as many many people not involved in the protest, including photographers and those with video cameras were randomly attacked by riot(ing) cops.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject:
Welsh Police took to the Bristol streets of Stokes Croft again and the community was in a riot situation again. This video goes round Stokes Croft, St Pauls & Montpelier also at the back of the tesco with security guards.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:14 am Post subject:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Geneva - 1947 http://www.udhr.org/udhr/udhr.HTM#25
Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
End of the squat that moved in on the art scene
A Brixton block of flats where the Pogues and Jeremy Deller once lived is being emptied and sold off
By Sarah Morrison - Tuesday, 12 July 2011
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/end-of-the-squat-tha t-moved-in-on-the-art-scene-2312123.html
A community of squatters that has lived in a set of artists' flats in south London for more than 10 years is to be evicted today as part of a larger clampdown on the unauthorised occupation of the country's vacant properties. The local council will pay for "live-in guardians" to look after the flats until they are sold at auction.
Lambeth Council is to evict about 50 people from Clifton Mansions, a block of 22 flats in the centre of Brixton that has become known for housing alternative musicians and artists, including members of the Irish punk-folk band The Pogues and the Turner Prize winner Jeremy Deller.
In an attempt to crack down on "anti-social behaviour" and provide what councillors call "vital funds" for the London borough of Lambeth, which has lost £37m of its government subsidy this year, all squatters at Clifton Mansions will be removed from their homes by bailiffs and police. The entire road will be sealed off for the eviction.........
Ignore headlines about squatters, government proposals target Gypsies and travellers
Plans to criminalise trespassing where no damage has been caused will impact Gypsies, travellers and protestors
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/jul/13/criminalise-squatting-target s-gypsies
The prime minister's confirmation that the government will be bringing forward legislation for the criminalisation of trespass and the proposed removal of removal of legal aid from trespassers in the legal aid, sentencing and punishment of offenders bill amount to the most significant changes to the law of trespass in England and Wales for generations.
The media response, carefully directed by spin, has been to focus on squatting and, all too predictably, on "protecting homeowners" from squatters. That this response is wholly and perhaps wilfully inaccurate about the current law is something we've addressed before. Of course, squatting is threatened by the proposals, but the ramifications run deeper and wider.........
Blunt: ending the misery of squatting
Ministry of Justice - 13 July 2011
http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/press-releases/moj/newsrelease130711a.h tm
A new crime of squatting was proposed today by Justice Minister Crispin Blunt.
Making it an offence for the first time, and abolishing so-called 'squatters rights' are among a range of proposals to deal with the problem which would protect both home and business owners.
Making squatting an offence for the first time, sending persistent offenders to prison and abolishing so-called ‘squatters rights’ are among a range of proposals put forward as part of a new Government consultation.
Justice Minister Crispin Blunt said:
'Far too many people have to endure the misery, expense and incredible hassle of removing squatters from their property. Hard working home and business owners need and deserve a justice system where their rights come first.
'Today’s consultation is a first step to achieving this. I am clear that the days of so-called ‘squatters’ rights’ must end and squatters who break the law receive a proper punishment.'
In the consultation “Options for dealing with squatting” the Government puts forward for discussion a number of plans to better protect home and business owners. These include:
introducing a new criminal offence of squatting, which could result in a prison sentence for the most persistent offenders;
* abolishing so called ‘squatters’ rights’ which prevent legitimate occupiers of commercial property from using force to re-enter their properties if they have been occupied by squatters;
* expanding existing offences so that business property owners have the same level of protection as displaced homeowners; and
* working with the enforcement authorities to help ensure squatters are prosecuted for any other offences they commit – for example criminal damage, burglary or using electricity without permission.
The consultation paper asks for the public’s views on a range options for overhauling outdated laws, some of which date back to the 1970s.
Housing Minister Grant Shapps said:
'I want to see an end to the misery that squatters cause and slam the door on their so-called ‘rights’, tipping the scales of justice in favour of the law-abiding homeowner once and for all.
'We’ve already taken steps to crackdown on this menace, including publishing guidance for property owners to keep squatters out, and allocating £100million towards bringing empty homes back into use.
'So there is no excuse for anyone to bring disruption and destruction to property owners’ lives by squatting, and that’s why it’s vital we look to take steps to tackle this problem.'
Stephen Cross, Head of Security at Ballymore Group said:
'It is clear that squatters are costing my company many thousands of pounds because of direct damage to buildings, the problems caused to neighbours with loud ‘Squat’ parties, litter, rubbish and the amount of time it takes to sort things out - sometimes six to twelve weeks for a court order to be granted and finally enforced. This is almost inevitably expensive with court costs to be borne as well.
'Proposals to finally tackle the problem of squatting and to extend rights to commercial property owners are therefore extremely welcome.'
Legislation will be brought before Parliament following the conclusion of the consultation, if deemed necessary.
Alongside plans to consult on squatting the Ministry of Justice also announced last month, as part of its proposals for reform of civil legal aid, plans to stop squatters getting legal aid to fight eviction. The Government is clear that legal aid should be targeted at those most in need and does not consider it sensible for the taxpayer to provide funding for individuals who have clearly entered and remained on the property or site as a trespasser.
Notes to editors
Read the ‘Options for dealing with Squatters’ consultation paper
It invites views of the general public and interested parties and includes the following options:
Creating a new offence specifically targeted at trespassers who occupy other people's buildings without permission, thereby criminalising the act of squatting.
Amending section 7 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 so that a squatter who refuses to leave non-residential property when requested to do so by the property owner would be guilty of an offence (it is already an offence for a squatter to refuse to leave residential property when required to do so by a displaced residential occupier or protected intending occupier of the property).
Amending section 6 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 so that the offence of using or threatening violence to secure entry to a property against the will of the people inside does not apply to wider range of property owners seeking to enter properties which have been occupied by squatters. (The offence already does not apply to displaced residential occupiers and protected intending occupiers).
Working with the enforcement authorities to improve enforcement of existing offences commonly committed by squatters such as criminal damage or burglary.
Do nothing, but continue with existing criminal and civil law mechanisms.
Communities and Local Government squatting guidance on Directgov
For further information please call the Ministry of Justice press office on 020 3334 3536.
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"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
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-Described as a 'gangsta' in the headline.
-The picture of him could not look more 'gangstery' (Where the hell did that come from?)
-Witness statements being reported in the press.
-SO19 officer shot by man (not wearing kevlar vest - WHY?) but bullet stopped by police radio in his pocket. Really? REALLY??
It could have been a deliberate police provocation to get the politicians to run one line, the riot police to dust off their old strategies and prepare the UK body politic for ...meltdown.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject:
"I told the chief inspector personally that we wanted to leave before nightfall. If he kept us hanging around after nightfall, it was going to be on his head. We couldn't guarantee it wouldn't get out of control," said Stafford Scott, a community organiser, who accompanied the family of the shot man, Mark Duggan.
"If a senior police officer had come to speak to us, we would have left. We arrived at 5pm, we had planned a one-hour silent protest. We were there until 9pm. Police were absolutely culpable. Had they been more responsive when we arrived at the police station, asking for a senior officer to talk with the family, we would have left the vicinity before the unrest started.
"It is unforgivable that police refused dialogue. We know the history here – how can Tottenham have a guy killed by police on Thursday, and resist requests for dialogue from the community 48 hours later?"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/07/tottenham-community-leaders?
Maybe this has an air of being deliberately stoked? and yea maybe the Radio story was a cover for police wrong doing, just like the old 'always have a spare gun ready' routine.
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The shot in coppers radio, came from a police gun apparently, and I'm I read somewhere a 16 year old girl protester was beaten.
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Oooo, saved by my radio 'the fourth time this.month - geez i am so lucky!
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In that article above its said he was shot while handcuffed
There were stories of Duggan having been shot after being handcuffed; others said he had sent a message to friends 15 minutes before he was killed, saying he had been cornered but was safe.
There were chants of "we want answers" but those present said the protest was good-natured. The demonstration, which organisers expected to last no more than an hour, was initially fronted by women, who surrounded Wilson, who had three children with 29-year-old Duggan.
What happened over the next four hours is subject to debate, but what is clear is that tensions gradually escalated, as police made only limited attempts to talk to the demonstrators. _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Uploaded by bangonitdave on 2 Aug 2011
credits walkintothelight1 to Michael & Sarah Feeley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK159bwz3-E
even uk police starting to wake up this made my day
_________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Looting occurred in 3 areas which are around 1-2 miles between each other.
Tottenham High Rd
Tottenham Retail Park
Wood Green Shopping District.
According to some reports police made an appearance in some of the 3 areas around 7.30am in the morning. So for a full 10 hours places could be looted openly.
London riots: world reacts to city's 'hungry mutiny'
The riots in London have made headlines around the world - here's a round-up of the coverage from our international correspondents.
By John-Paul Ford Rojas
2:26PM BST 08 Aug 2011
Pictures and descriptions of the disturbances feature prominently in the Australian media, reports Bonnie Malkin, with Sydney's tabloid Daily Telegraph newspaper running the picture of a burning double-decker bus on page two.
The paper says: "We can be thankful that Sydney is not on such an edge that anarchy is but a protest away. As events in London demonstrate, not every major city enjoys our cohesive qualities."
An opinion piece posted on the Australia Broadcasting Corporation's website asked: "Where were the statesmen as London burned?:"
It continued: "London burned and meanwhile prime minister David Cameron fiddled with the foil on a bottle of pinot grigio in Tuscany; deputy prime minister Nick Clegg quietly recovered at home from his getaway in sunny France; and chancellor of the exchequer George Osbourne remained ensconced at a hotel somewhere in Beverly Hills.
"Britain's already shaky confidence in its leaders, several of whom have spent the summer trying to wriggle free of their association with the hacking scandal, will be further disturbed by the determination of the nation's powerbrokers to cling to the sun bed."
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Italy's Corriere della Sera runs the story on page one, reports Nick Squires, with a photo of a policeman silhouetted against a burning building.
The newspaper describes a "night of urban guerilla war" in a city "struggling to deal with youth gangs and incapable of resolving its latent conflicts".
It adds: "London is not just the fairy tale of Kate and Pippa. There's also Tottenham..."
Il Messagero compares the scenes in Tottenham to the terrorist attacks on Mumbai, Beirut during the Lebanese civil war and the troubled banlieues of Paris, as well as the riots that hit the UK in the 1980s under the Thatcher government.
With London the home to tens of thousands of Poles, Poland’s media has given extensive coverage to the riots, writes Matthew Day. Leading newspaper Rzeczpospolita blames the “failure of multicultural society”.
Russia’s state-owned Rossiiskaya Gazeta newspaper describes the violence as a "hungry mutiny" taking place in the run-up to the 2012 London Olympics, amid falling living standards, higher food prices, and joblessness, reports Andrew Osborn.
It makes a comparison with the "French scenario" when several years ago youths in Paris took to the streets for weeks on end, burning cars and clashing with police.
The Moskovskie Novosti newspaper called the trouble “a pogrom” and quotes a shop assistant originally from Africa saying: “I can imagine this kind of thing happening in Somalia but to see it in London was strange."
Most of Spain's national newspapers make room for the story on their front pages, says Fiona Govan, with El Pais using a large image of burnt-out cars and describing the disturbances as "racial violence".
La Razón has a photo of a burning building, captioned “Night of violence in London”, describing Tottenham as a depressed area and talks of police impotence.
Portugal’s Publico newspaper has a large photograph of riot police marching in front of a burning building and describes tension on the streets leading to a scene of devastation.
The riots have attracted prominent coverage in New York, reports Jon Swaine. On Sunday, two spectacular photos of a London bus and high street shops in flames made up half of page 12 of the New York Post, with an accompanying story headlined "Rioters run wild in London". The New York Times ran a fairly lengthy dispatch from Ravi Somaiya, one of its London correspondents, on page 7, titled "Shooting by police sets off riot in London".
Today The New York Times features a large picture of Tottenham Allied Carpets' burned out shell as its front page image, with the caption "Aftermath of a riot". The second wave of disturbances prompted a longer piece from Somaiya on page 4, titled "London sees twin perils converging to fuel riot".
"Frustration in this impoverished neighbourhood, as in many others in Britain, has mounted as the government’s austerity budget has forced deep cuts in social services," he wrote. "At the same time, a widely held disdain for law enforcement here, where a large Afro-Caribbean population has felt singled out by the police for abuse, has only intensified through the drumbeat of scandal that has racked Scotland Yard in recent weeks and led to the resignation of the force’s two top commanders".
The Washington Post said the "sprawling metropolis" had suffered its "worst bout of civil unrest in years"
How can the govt which has troops in Afghanistan and under its watch heroin has hit the roof talk about fighting drug crime in the person of Theresa May and her close association with receipients of those same drugs?
Sounds fishy...
London riots: Met admits too few officers deployed
A senior Metropolitan Police commander has admitted too few officers were deployed as rioting erupted this weekend but denied there had been a “flat-footed” response.
Link to this video
By John-Paul Ford Rojas
9:31AM BST 08 Aug 2011
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Steve Kavanagh said the outbreak of disorder that followed a peaceful protest on Saturday in Tottenham, north London, could not have been expected.
But he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that lessons could be learned about how the violence spread rapidly with the help of social media.
Mr Kavanagh said three times as many officers were on duty on Sunday night as rioting and looting spread across the capital.
Police said there were more than 100 arrests with disturbances reported in north, south and east London.
Home Secretary Theresa May praised officers who had “put themselves in harm’s way to protect Londoners and their property” and pledged tough action against those responsible for the trouble.
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Mr Kavanagh said initial “frustration” in the community over lack of information about the shooting by police of Mark Duggan in Tottenham had spilled over into “greed and criminality”.
He told Today: “I am not aware of any warnings that there was going to be this type of disorder.”
Mr Kavanagh said there had been some “very very worrying cases of violence towards officers” and that he was “very proud” of them.
He said the level of violence would not be tolerated and those responsible for looting would be dealt with.
Asked if police had been too slow to respond to the spread of violence via social media such as Twitter, he said: “We weren’t flat-footed on either occasion.”
He admitted that too few officers were on duty on Saturday and said they had to prioritise the protection of fire crews.
But Mr Kavanagh said: “The Metropolitan Police did not let people take over the streets of London. We experienced a very rapid increase in the levels of violence.
“Social media and other methods have been used to organise these levels of greed and criminality and we need to adapt and learn from what we are experiencing.”
Copycat distrurbances in other London Boroughs,
Brixton, Enfield etc.
There are no people in these images, just police in riot gear, so presumabely what is it they are defending when many reports state they were nowhere to be found on the first night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14441056
People were turning up at the retail parks in cars and moving away with goods?
Is this an Osborne tactic of kick-starting the economy? Big chains claim on insurance what they cant sell?
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject:
Could be the place was closed with loads of dead stock inside??
conspiracy analyst wrote:
Has Duggan actually got anything to do with this or has his death been used by agent provocateurs to create madness and mayhem?
Carpet Right was the store burnt and looted!!!
Its on the rocks financially at the moment.
The met firearms boys are looking like nothing less than a Templar/masonic death squad.
So what is the full name of the government taxpayer paid alleged police murderer who is the latest to be walking the streets?
Who has just added his name to the glorious lot that have got away with blowing a member of the public's brains out with no consequences?
Will it/he be promoted like Cressida Dick who oversaw the murder of Jean Charles De Menezes?
Was Cressida Dick in any way involved in the decision to murder Mark Duggan?
So the trigger happy specialist firearms cops are told - "don't worry about being prosecuted - you will be looked after. So shoot first and ask questions later because you are above the law."
How very quaint and medieval.
Last night's riots were simply a vote of no confidence in the Met. & the IPCC.
a bullet found in a police car radio belongs to a police weapon, and not from a non-police gun as previously thought.
It casts further doubt on claims that it was Mr Duggan who shot at police first.
Riots and burnings occurring in many parts of London now from north to east to south.
Lee Jasper stated on Ch 4 news that the police have had a weird response, allowing predominantly black areas to burn whilst defending other areas like Oxford Circus in the centre and Enfield in North London.
So what is going on?
A diversion to avoid the reality of a market crash?
A wall street trader stated this is the worst crash he has seen in 30 years and the economic news is dire...
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:35 pm Post subject:
London's Burning - Anarchy in the UK - London Youth take on the Met.
The Metropolitan Police - a rudderless ship
beginning to look market orchestrated....?
As lines of dozens of riot police marched into the estate, they were met by a hail of bricks, stones and bottles. At times there was hand-to-hand combat, as youths ripped off tree branches and used sticks to club police, who quickly retreated.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/08/hackney-riot-police-london
Tesco stores raided totally in Woolwich south London...
Riots spread to other cities (Nottingham, Bristol, Liverpool, Birmingham) where there are minority black populations. Nothing reported for Manchester or Newcastle. Police reported to be using different responses depending on the area of each city.
MP calls for a re-call of Parliament.
Most politicians calling for a curfew.
Some individuals including journalists calling for politicians to bring out the army.
Disorder, chaos, stock market collapses...
Order from chaos, the slippery road to dictatorship....
More than 100 police officers in Nottingham dealt with trouble last night. Forty vehicles have been damaged, 200 tyres set alight, and two petrol bombs were thrown at a police station. Police say a hardcore gang of around 30 people were responsible. Two people are in custody. A large operation is still underway although the trouble has died down.
Could be the place was closed with loads of dead stock inside??
conspiracy analyst wrote:
Has Duggan actually got anything to do with this or has his death been used by agent provocateurs to create madness and mayhem?
Carpet Right was the store burnt and looted!!!
Its on the rocks financially at the moment.
I also mentioned to friends last night people could be using this as a cover to take out business rivals! There is a huge shopping complex in Croydon that was set ablaze, apparently according to BBC it was private family owned since 18something
Quote:
Looting occurred in 3 areas which are around 1-2 miles between each other.
Tottenham High Rd
Tottenham Retail Park
Wood Green Shopping District.
Was Carpetright targeted at all locations or am I misreading the post? _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Could be the place was closed with loads of dead stock inside??
conspiracy analyst wrote:
Has Duggan actually got anything to do with this or has his death been used by agent provocateurs to create madness and mayhem?
Carpet Right was the store burnt and looted!!!
Its on the rocks financially at the moment.
I also mentioned to friends last night people could be using this as a cover to take out business rivals! There is a huge shopping complex in Croydon that was set ablaze, apparently according to BBC it was private family owned since 18something
Quote:
Looting occurred in 3 areas which are around 1-2 miles between each other.
Tottenham High Rd
Tottenham Retail Park
Wood Green Shopping District.
Was Carpetright targeted at all locations or am I misreading the post?
According to the owner of the above as reported on the BBC he said two masked intruders broke a window went in and burnt it down.
Where is it located and where were the police?
Where there any disturbances there at all?
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