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prole art threat
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| stateofgrace wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: | | stateofgrace wrote: | | If you feel we are no threat and have nothing of value to say why lower yourself to come down and question us? |
I dont see you as a threat. It's the first time I have bothered to come down here. I suppose it's a morbid curiosity? Youre not a threat at all. Youre a dying breed. |
Is this your expert opinion on one based on no other believes than you are actually the saviour of humanity and everybody cares what you have to say?
Do you speak out laud to people in real live what you say her, and let evrybody know you have a silly link in your signature showing Bush on a white horse?
Do you do this?
Do you find that people mock you in real life , so you escape he and vent of you pent up frustration because nobody listens to you or cares what you have to say ? |
Youre projecting again, tis you who vents spleen, not I. And you still havent answered my questions by the way. *yawns*
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Oh dear are you tired, maybe you should go to bed and dream your silly little dreams.
You know the one, were you save us all and everybody wakes up. Rather than simply mock you. |
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| stateofgrace wrote: | Oh dear are you tired, maybe you should go to bed and dream your silly little dreams.
You know the one, were you save us all and everybody wakes up. Rather than simply mock you. |
I will go to bed when I want. Go and watch that Aids Babies clip and get a glimpse of the monsters you are defending.
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stateofgrace
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What monsters do I defend?
Please tell the last anti war demonstration you went on. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| stateofgrace wrote: | What monsters do I defend?
Please tell the last anti war demonstration you went on. |
Never mind marching. You can march youre ass off but it wont change a shilling. Theyre not listening to you. Youre a defender of monsters, and 'critics corner' is your spiritual home.
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Your silly and misguide categorisation of those that don’t agree with your theories will be your undoing.
Don’t agree with the inside job theory = Bush loving, war mongering,child killing monsters, who want war destruction and an end to humanity. |
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Why are you here? |
I can't speak for everyone, but I'll tell you why I'm here.
This forum gives me the opportunity to debate people who disagree with me. Doing so hones my cognitive and verbal skills far better than just discussing a subject with someone who is on the same page as I am. If someone disagrees with you, then he keeps you honest. He demands support and corroborating evidence for the assertions you make, offering a constant reminder that all ideas must pass this test before they can be reasonably considered valid.
Not everyone here has the same standards of evidence and logical thought that I do, but that doesn't mean I can't learn something from the experience. In the meantime, if I manage to convince someone of something, then that's icing on the cake. |
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| prole art threat wrote: | | stateofgrace wrote: | What monsters do I defend?
Please tell the last anti war demonstration you went on. |
Never mind marching. You can march youre ass off but it wont change a shilling. Theyre not listening to you. Youre a defender of monsters, and 'critics corner' is your spiritual home. |
Because you have never marched, you have demonstrated in real life for what you believe.
Your are a vain ego maniac who would rather condemn those who don't subscribe to this as shills than accept many people who do not agree with do not support Bush and the present us administration.
Your dislike of Bush clouds your judgement and allows for this. You are blind to reality and any sense of decency
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| stateofgrace wrote: | Your silly and misguide categorisation of those that don’t agree with your theories will be your undoing.
Don’t agree with the inside job theory = Bush loving, war mongering,child killing monsters, who want war destruction and an end to humanity. |
The reason you can accept the real events of 9/11 and instead cling on to that scuzzy, five dollar fairytale that was spoonfed to you is a very personal amd potential trauma for you and your belief system. You are scared * that it will smash your psyche into a million shards and you would totally fall apart. Your psychological vulnerability has been duly noted and that is why I find you here, in this dungeon of denial.
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prole art threat
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| stateofgrace wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: | | stateofgrace wrote: | What monsters do I defend?
Please tell the last anti war demonstration you went on. |
Never mind marching. You can march youre ass off but it wont change a shilling. Theyre not listening to you. Youre a defender of monsters, and 'critics corner' is your spiritual home. |
Because you have never marched, you have demonstrated in real life for what you believe.
Your are a vain ego maniac who would rather condemn those who don't subscribe to this as shills than accept many people who do not agree with do not support Bush and the present us administration.
Your dislike of Bush clouds your judgement and allows for this. You are blind to reality and any sense of decency |
You make fasle assertons, I never said I didnt march. As an ex-member of the Socialist Worker Party, Ive done my share and it got humanity nowhere.
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stateofgrace
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| prole art threat wrote: | | stateofgrace wrote: | Your silly and misguide categorisation of those that don’t agree with your theories will be your undoing.
Don’t agree with the inside job theory = Bush loving, war mongering,child killing monsters, who want war destruction and an end to humanity. |
The reason you can accept the real events of 9/11 and instead cling on to that scuzzy, five dollar fairytale that was spoonfed to you is a very personal amd potential trauma for you and your belief system. You are scared * that it will smash your psyche into a million shards and you would totally fall apart. Your psychological vulnerability has been duly noted and that is why I find you here, in this dungeon of denial. |
Wow you sussed all that out by a few posts.
There you have it folk’s online personnel diagnostics care of the truth movement.
You are making a fool of yourself. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Anti-sophist wrote: | | To promote science and human reason, and make sure it is correctly applied by people who care about the truth. |
Hmmm.
Thats a dogma
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| chipmunk stew wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: | | I just do not understand why any of you are here. |
Well you don't strike me as the empathetic type, so I'm not surprised. You also don't seem very observant. |
Could you quote any of your own posts where you manifest these qualities?
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| Anti-sophist wrote: | Because I'm not wasting my time. I know you don't believe it, but many people come to this site, read this forum, and find actual answers to common questions based on CT deception and/or psuedoscience.
"Debunkers" have a very big effect, whether you believe it or not. |
Got any "scientific" evidence for that?
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| stateofgrace wrote: | | What monsters do I defend? |
Can you give me a scientific calculation of the Iraqi death toll?
| Quote: | | Please tell the last anti war demonstration you went on. |
Do you not understand "managed dissent"?
"Anti" demonstrations do not stop war: they meerly provide useful social catharsis
Being "pro" Peace and non-co-operation are the effective tools
Exposing what governments want to keep out of view is part of non-co-operation
And there are many aspects of 9/11 truth that do just that
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| What the so-called "Truth Movement" never seems to have grasped is that distracting critics of Bush with accusations of his complicity in 9/11 that cannot be supported by worthwhile evidence actually aids him by shifting attention from what he is really doing on to entirely imaginary crimes. What he is really up to is quite bad enough without embroidering it with fantasy. |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | What the so-called "Truth Movement" never seems to have grasped is that distracting critics of Bush with accusations of his complicity in 9/11 that cannot be supported by worthwhile evidence actually aids him by shifting attention from what he is really doing on to entirely imaginary crimes. What he is really up to is quite bad enough without embroidering it with fantasy. |
And that is just the dumbest argument going, used by ALL left gatekeepers. How does it distract us? In my experience, the Truth Movement is much more politically aware than most and we are more than aware of what is going down, usually before it happens, so what is your point? I dont know about you but I am quite capable of following more than one issue at a time.
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So why do you have such a black and white view of the world and peoples opinions?
911 deniers= good guys
Critics = bad guys
Therefore all that is wrong and terrible in the world we the deniers campaign against and the critics simply support it all.
All the critics support war, support famine, death, destruction and Aids.
Your demonisation of those who don't support your theories is transparent. |
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[quote="stateofgrace"]
Hey Soggy, your demonisation of those who don't support your theories is transparent.
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Hey deflector you actually made me laugh there, you really do have a sense of humour.
(Said in a light hearted non aggressive manner)
* Bows out of this silly thread* |
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| prole art threat wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | What the so-called "Truth Movement" never seems to have grasped is that distracting critics of Bush with accusations of his complicity in 9/11 that cannot be supported by worthwhile evidence actually aids him by shifting attention from what he is really doing on to entirely imaginary crimes. What he is really up to is quite bad enough without embroidering it with fantasy. |
And that is just the dumbest argument going, used by ALL left gatekeepers. How does it distract us? In my experience, the Truth Movement is much more politically aware than most and we are more than aware of what is going down, usually before it happens, so what is your point? I dont know about you but I am quite capable of following more than one issue at a time. |
Because instead of attacking him on issues on which he is vulnerable, say his vile justifications for the the use of torture, and there he is on video doing it, you are attacking him on an issue for which the evidence is very much disputed, and any attack can be deflected very easily on that basis. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | What the so-called "Truth Movement" never seems to have grasped is that distracting critics of Bush with accusations of his complicity in 9/11 that cannot be supported by worthwhile evidence actually aids him by shifting attention from what he is really doing on to entirely imaginary crimes. What he is really up to is quite bad enough without embroidering it with fantasy. |
And that is just the dumbest argument going, used by ALL left gatekeepers. How does it distract us? In my experience, the Truth Movement is much more politically aware than most and we are more than aware of what is going down, usually before it happens, so what is your point? I dont know about you but I am quite capable of following more than one issue at a time. |
Because instead of attacking him on issues on which he is vulnerable, say his vile justifications for the the use of torture, and there he is on video doing it, you are attacking him on an issue for which the evidence is very much disputed, and any attack can be deflected very easily on that basis. |
Wake up Bushwacker!
Do you honestly believe that attacking him for 'torture' is really going to have any effect whatsoever? The only issue that can drive a stake through this pumping black heart is 9/11 and exposing it as the lie it is. If you beleive otherwise, youre living in cloud cuckooland.
For an example of what I am talking about, please go and watch the Aids Babies clip.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:30 am Post subject: |
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John I have seen this video and I agree with the questions that need to be answered.
I agree totally there are serious unanswered questioned about 911.
So why do you not?
Why do you wish to bury all these genuine questions that the families deserve answers to in favour of bombs, missiles and no planes?
You know and I know this is the most honest movie ever made by the truth movement it is the flagship. No critic will question the motivation behind the likes of the Jersey girls.
But they do not support the more outrageous theories regarding this event.
Therein lays the difference between the genuine truth seeker and the conspirator.
The genuine truther genuinely seeks the truth.
The conspirator buries it all in outrageous theories.
You need to decide which one you are or this movement is going nowhere. Drop the dross, demand the truth, the genuine truth and keep demanding it and you will get support. Genuine support. And you may find the more and more people will sign up.
Your call John.
(Just thought I'd say)
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| stateofgrace wrote: | John I have seen this video and I agree with the questions that need to be answered.
I agree totally there are serious unanswered questioned about 911.
So why do you not?
Why do you wish to bury all these genuine questions that the families deserve answers to in favour of bombs, missiles and no planes?
You know and I know this is the most honest movie ever made by the truth movement it is the flagship. No critic will question the motivation behind the likes of the Jersey girls.
But they do not support the more outrageous theories regarding this event.
Therein lays the difference between the genuine truth seeker and the conspirator.
The genuine truther genuinely seeks the truth.
The conspirator buries it all in outrageous theories.
You need to decide which one you are or this movement is going nowhere. Drop the dross, demand the truth, the genuine truth and keep demanding it and you will get support. Genuine support. And you may find the more and more people will sign up.
Your call John.
(Just thought I'd say)
*bowing out again* |
Pathetic.
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| prole art threat wrote: |
Pathetic. |
What specifically do you find pathetic? |
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| aggle-rithm wrote: | | prole art threat wrote: |
Pathetic. |
What specifically do you find pathetic? |
What I find specifically to be pathetic is the fact that State of Grace does not seem to possess a morsel of psychological courage. He has not the balls to leave any feedback on the Aids Babies thread. Ive got a good idea, why dont you do it for him?
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I've left my feed back.
Now why don't you grow up or leave adults to have a conversation. |
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| stateofgrace wrote: | | I've left my feed back. |
Youve left NO feedback on the clip. You have run away like a frightened little girl. You really cant handle harsh reality, can you? And that is precisely the reason why you are in Critics Corner.
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And your reason for this are ?
What exactly as Aids got to do with 911? |
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