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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Yes, Mark Steel is right about one thing. Reply with quote

On the thread that records Mark Steel's views on 9/11 (It wasn't an inside job) he does say one thing that is certainly true.


i.e........that if it were an inside job why are we asking for a public inquiry? No inquiry would ever allow such a thing to be admitted.

This is surely true. Expecting that an honest inquiry is even possible is like expecting that the Diana Inquest is going to find that she was murdered by agents of the Royal Family, like the Demenzes inquest (is it an inquest?) finding that he was murdered by the police, like Hutton finding that David Kelly was murdered, like the Warren Report would say that JFK was assassinated by a group of hired killers.

We are pushing information in the medium-to-long-term hope of somehow creating a revolution, aren't we? Only after an extreme change in the fundamentals of our governance will a genuine inquiry be possible......but by that stage it would probably be pointless as any such new government would have surely already have locked the criminals up for its own safety.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weren't Nixon and all the other Watergate burglars brought to justice? Didn't the Birmingham six and Guildford four eventually recieve pardons? Mark Steel is a feckwit and appears to be happy the mass murderers get away with it rather than he be proved wrong and very naive.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and the police are 'guilty' of unlawful killing....blimey!.....or was that guilty of breaching 'Health and Safety' regulations.....oops, the news is on...must rush.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Woodward and Bernstein or the Labour MP (Chris Mullins?)who championed the birmingham six's case should have listened to comrade Mark Steel? such defeatism, where are you coming from?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Steel wrote a sly, dishonest column a couple of weeks ago attacking 9/11 truthers. I tried to send him an email but failed so I posted him a letter pointing out a few things he overlooked and berating him (for what it was worth) for his misguidance of those who would protest at 'government' actions.

I am not trying to express any sympathy for Mark Steel whatsoever in this thread. I only say the wa*ker happens to be correct on this point.

What's all that nonsense about Woodward and Bernstein and Chris Mullins? Who do you think you are, Trotsky? (sorry, is that meaningless?)

If you want to know where I'm 'coming from' see www.ifthewebsite.com (although it is eighteen months old now).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't understand my Woodward and Bernstein(Watergate Washington post investigative reporters who nailed Nixon) and Chris Mullins (Labour MP who championed justice for the Birmingham six) reference?!? If they had taken your and Mark Steels position that it is pointless taking on the PTB the guilty would have gotten away with it. What is your interest in the 9/11 truth if you are such a fatalist?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHERITON HOTEL wrote:
You don't understand my Woodward and Bernstein(Watergate Washington post investigative reporters who nailed Nixon) and Chris Mullins (Labour MP who championed justice for the Birmingham six) reference?!? If they had taken your and Mark Steels position that it is pointless taking on the PTB the guilty would have gotten away with it. What is your interest in the 9/11 truth if you are such a fatalist?


I do believe in taking them on and exposing everything, but the point is that if we got a 'public inquiry' it would be these powers who control the processes and outcomes of that inquiry.

Isn't that just obvious.

Do you seriously believe that an inquiry into 9/11 (which would be run by the PTB, who already control the judiciary and parliament) would allow the secret powers that control our society and obviously directed the crime of 9/11 to be exposed and accused of that crime?

Such an inquiry would only be allowed by these people after the majority of the public already knew the truth. Then an inquiry would be launched as a damage limitation exercise and to demonstrate publicly the honour and integrity of our system of governance.

Just because you dislike and disagree with someone does not mean you should dismiss EVERYTHING they say as complete rubbish.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Watergate enquiry? the exception that proves the rule? Are we wasting our time pusuing the 9/11 7/7 etc. truth, yes or no?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For God's sake. Can't you read.

No. We are not wasting our time.

However, it IS ridiculous to expect the PTB to participate in the exposure of or admit the truth about 9/11.

The fall of Nixon did nothing to detract from the power of the real controllers of America. To these people, Presidents and PM's are interchangeable.
By allowing Nixon to be replaced the business of governance of the USA was eased. The impeachment of this awkward and unpopular figurehead also strengthened the system considerably by making it look open and democratic......which in this case, in a shallow sense, it was.

However, wasn't it the Washington Post who pulled this off??

They haven't been quite so busy exposing the lies and anomalies of 9/11, have they?

Wonder why? Is the point taken yet?

If they could pin this crime on Bush and a few surrounding him the wheels, I believe, would already be in motion to get them. With millions of Americans supporters of 9/11 Truth the PTB are surely afraid where all this is awareness and protest is leading.......the Washington Post would be 'at it' again.
They cannot do this. No one would believe a small group around Bush could do this alone.

They are forced to 'tough it out' by sticking with the big lies.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely Dylan, Jason and Korey are the equivalent of Woodward and Bernstein operating in the age of the internet? I don't know where the Washington post are coming from on this, Watergate is like a late library book compared to 9/11, a crime so huge it's hard to get your head round. Maybe the NWO will sacrifice Bush and cheyney and the rest of the neocon crazies if that is, as you claim, what happened to Nixon and his co-burglars to give the impression of open democracy.
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