The truth is a problem

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

So many of you are in denial

Look how many of you say that talk of beam weapons and no planes will damage the movement.

So if this is the truth you are saying "don't talk about it because it could damage the credibility of the movement"

* the movement - the movement doesn't matter - the survival of the human race does

flamesong · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:

Bye, then...

Patrick Brown · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1201

TimmyG · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject:

hey this place is starting to look a bit brighter again.

see ya

scubadiver · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject:

If you want to walk upto a complete stranger and tell them exotic weapons brought down the towers then be my guest.

They would think you were too much of a "trekkie".

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

[quote="scubadiver"]If you want to walk upto a complete stranger and tell them exotic weapons brought down the towers then be my guest.

They would think you were too much of a "trekkie".[/quote

So if you knew that to be the truth - you would lie to them in case they thought you were a nutter - If so then you are the problem

Fear of being ridiculed is crazy - fear of having no freedom and your emotions being controlled by an RFID chip - THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TimmyG · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject:

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

flamesong · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject:

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

Fallious · Moderate Poster Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 762

I've said it before, and i'll say it again, and again, and again. 'No plane' theory is a poison, manufactured to damage the credebility of all 9/11 truthers. If you believe it's fact you are either stupid or a shill.

John White · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject:

flamesong · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject:

TimmyG · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject:

yes. john and flamesong are spot on

the people who spout their sci-fi ideas about with utter unshakeable belief that 'this is the way it is' make us look like a religious cult.

the public are waking up. or were. i get the feeling things might be going backwards sometimes when i see no-planers/beamers telling us all how it is

scubadiver · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject:

[quote="THETRUTHWILLSETU3"]you would lie to them in case they thought you were a nutter - If so then you are the problem[quote]

What have I got to lie about?

Garcon Warrior · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject:

The title of this thread is the truth is a problem then further down in this thread TTWSU3 you have said why wait for it to be proven. so basicaly it has not been proven so why dedicate so much time on it. The purpose of this forum is to get a full independent enquiry into 9/11 why dont we all start aiming for that before we get to the hows? When we have got an new enquiry into 9/11 then I think great if you think its a beam weapon then lets discuss it. What we need to be doing is working on the numerous facts and coincidences that happened that day and the lead up to it.

As you say TTWSU3 time is running out the choice is this we wake more people up to get the enquiry or the beam weapon theory is proved but were to far down the line to do anything about it.

marky 54 · Mega Poster Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 3293

provable evidance is what you should concentrate on, just thinking about proving beam weapons to the public who beileve the offical story brings major challenges. i predict anyone trying will be laughed at and the chance of open their eyes are gone. how does that save the human race when people start to push the truth movement away due to exotic theorys no matter how true they are? all it will do is make people put up their defences and i would of done the same if the first bit of evidance shown/told to me was beam weapons or npt. opening peoples eyes to the fact we were lied to is far more important, NOT a single theory thats hard to believe if you didnt even have a clue of a single lie.

Andrew Johnson · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject:

wepmob2000 · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:00 am Post subject:

The vast majority of the population completely believe the official story, for most of them, even beginning to refute the official story would be a huge leap of faith. Getting them to leap is surely the most important thing, once they doubt one thing they will probably start to think a lot more about everything else. Pointing out the obvious contradictions in the official story, which are hard fact would seem to be the best way forward, even then a lot of people are disinclined to believe you. There's enough real evidence out there to convince many, without receiving the inevitable pitying looks that mentioning 'no planes' would result in.

ian neal · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: Re: The truth is a problem

hampton · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

i know people who will believe practically any CT going but even they find npt/beams hard to grasp.

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

Patrick Brown · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1201

I think that once anybody looks at 911 from a perspective other than that of the OCT they see the absurdity of the events of that day. Then there is often a sense of doubt so they research and read as much as their brain can hold. Once they have completely confused themselves there comes a period of rest in which the sediment slowly clears. This is the second awakening which is pretty much impossible to go back from.

You can not be awake and asleep at the same time. Everybody that makes the transition from the sleep state to the awakened state (reality) must pass through the dream world. The dream world is the fantasy of Hollywood and the vanity of the ego and is self sustaining. Although we may fall into slumber again upon awakening the empirical knowledge and understanding we have accrued remains.

You can only lead a person to the threshold of their own understanding but it is they that must pass through the doorway.

ian neal · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: Re: The truth is a problem

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

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THETRUTHWILLSETU3 delighted us with;

ian neal · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject:

That's a cool enough approach so long as 'we' don't make buying into one particular hypothesis (namely beam weaponary et al) a CONDITION of being part of a wider movement. We need to bring all humanity together to resist (peacefully) through civil disobedience the forces which seek to enslave us through, fear, false terrorism and bogus wars. In creating such a popular movement, let us promote the freedom for us all to speak our own truth without feeling the need for us to agree about all details.

It should be clear that if humanity to going to wake up and resist the forces of darkness, we need to focus on what unites us. Good luck with the campaigning

Patrick Brown · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1201

ian neal · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject:

Patrick, behave

Is it any wonder that with you and others in affect calling TTWSU3 a supershill, that there is precious little debate of substance and a lot of polarised positions?

When I say here that

Skeptic · Validated Poster Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 485

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