WTC Blueprints Leaked

Thermate · Angel - now passed away Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 445

For those interested an anonymous ex-Silverstein employee leaked them to Steven E Jones and Dylan Avery. Get 'em here: http://www.loosechange911.com/download/wtc_blueprints.torrent

Requires a torrent client.

EDIT: Direct download available here http://www.laughingpond.com/wtc_blueprints.zip, fresh well seeded torrent can be found here http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/

Snowygrouch · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:30 am Post subject:

I`m positively gibbering with excitement!!!

Download at 20% now............ Twisted Evil

scubadiver · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:38 am Post subject:

So what are they? drawings? or what?

Excuse my ignorance!

Zabooka · Moderate Poster Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 446

OMG!!!!

YOUR $HITTING ME, to put it crudely but frankly!

Ho ho ho! Its so GOOD that Loose Change got delayed another whole year. All these new things that have come out and about.

You know... I... am ... speechless... These Blueprints will tell us exactly what the buildings infrastructure are like. We will know the sure truth about all the columns and even perhaps the much smaller details, for instance about this Diesel Generator and so forth... etc, etc... there is lots of implications it all depends on what is on these blueprints, but the fact that someone purposefully leaked them to Dylan and Steven E. Jones, who then found it exciting I assume means... damn we should all be excited!

Snowygrouch · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

Dammit!!!

Will people who are downloading this NOT shut off after you`ve done!!

Mine is 75% done and bitlord has run out of seeds and peers...get back on line!!!!!

andyb · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject:

From 911blogger.

Thermate · Angel - now passed away Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 445

GazeboflossUK · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I'd appreciate a quick reliable link.

The seeding of this is disgraceful.

Thermate · Angel - now passed away Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 445

Apparently the guy who agreed to seed was a JREF clown and has deliberately stopped seeding at 90%+ ... Keep your eyes on Loose Change thread if your after it ASAP, sure it'll get sorted soon.

gareth · Suspended Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 398

This is phenomenal! Someone tell Jim Hoffman! Very Happy

flamesong · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject:

I have tried torrents from several different sources and they are all on the same tracker which has no seeders - so I have stopped trying to download.

There are currently 76 people leeching on the Conspiracy Central tracker alone. People are behaving like they are going to introduce bread rationing! I realise this goes much more far and wide than this forum but if our one and only seeder does decide to share the rest of this - maybe temporarily - the fewer leechers the faster somebody will complete it and presumably seed to the rest of us.

ZUCO · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:

Does anybody know who actually has it? Could they be contacted and asked to put the file on rapidshare on something similar?

flamesong · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject:

According to Conspiracy Central it is JTGOB - whoever that might be...

flamesong · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject:

Seems like a prolific multiple forum poster:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jtgob

Maybe he lives somewhere where they are all still asleep (literally) and has turned his computer off.

flamesong · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:

From Conspiracy Central Forums:

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=9110

Snowygrouch · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject:

So did anyone get this file yet?

flamesong · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject:

Snowygrouch · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject:

absolutely bloody ridiculous.

Some greedy b* has downloaded and swicthed off.

I`m at 92.4%

flamesong · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject:

According to the stats on Conspiracy Central, nobody has completed a download yet:

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969

ZUCO · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:58 am Post subject:

I've got the whole thing now, as I think many people have because there are over 20 seeds, I'll keep seeding anyway though to speed up the process.

Graham · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:29 am Post subject:

what Torrent link you using Zuco?

ZUCO · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:45 am Post subject:

I think it was the first link at the top of the page. Is there any way i can find out from my torrent client exactly which one it is?

Graham · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:14 am Post subject:

that first link gets rejected.

However.......

http://www.laughingpond.com/wtc_blueprints.zip

ZUCO · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:17 am Post subject:

Sorted then Cool

BBC5.tv · Validated Poster Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 93

Guys we need to get serious about this, let’s start to play hard ball.

Lets do our own fu#king report based on NIST's assumptions and see what we come out with. I somehow reckon it will be wildly different from what they concluded. Theirs is a shambles anyway, wouldn't be hard to better it.

So if anyone out there is an engineer, scientist say, or logically minded, hell good at writing reports etc, we should liaise and give these supposed engineers a run for their money (will be like taking candy from a kid). Also if people have deciphered the dimensions (sometimes I can't read them, and no I don't need glasses just more pronounced numbers) that would be helpful for floors 94-98.

To begin with perhaps we just do some simple buckling calculations for the beams etc? Any ideas would be helpful, or advice into whether this will be a good use of my - your time?

By the way do people know what steel was used? I know I can find all of this out myself but if someone has that information with evidence to back it up that would be helpful as time is ticking people and I for one am starting to pissed off with all this apathy.

Eventually I would like to build the floors of WTC 1 from the 94th to the 98th in say Unigraphics NX4 and use the data supplied by NIST to locate the impact damage and re-run the analysis in Ansys, which we use here at work. Then they wouldn’t be able to argue it away as kids with laptops hey. It kids in ties with laptops now buddy! And fu#k, all engineers apparently have an inbuilt BS detector; we just need to give them a chance to use it.

'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid - ever - because... this is just a ride.' Bill Hicks

Zabooka · Moderate Poster Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 446

Ive had an idea for a while, to have something like EngineersFor911Truth. This would solely focus on the World Trade Centres, exposing the falsity in Popular Mechanics, FEMA, NIST and other defenders of the official theory.

A site run by and dedicated to Engineers, Architects, Construction workers and Demolition Experts.

BBC5.tv · Validated Poster Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 93

Yeah me to Zabooka, i was just thinking would we want to just play the WTC 911 tag though, it's gone and it's so much bigger than that now perhaps? (Playing Devil's advocate)

Anyway you put any engineer in a corner and ask him to look you in the eye and have him say he believes that steel framed sky scrapers collapse due to fire at freefall speed neatly into their own footprint, he won't. There is no way. He has his double-think mentality temporarily invalidated by the fact that engineers hate (because it means they have to think) having two contradictory concepts simultaneously in one's mind;

1. Buildings behave that way because I’m told they do, or
2. They can’t because it would make no sense.

If only they could apply the same logic to this conundrum (I try not to ask this at work though although I inevitably do);

1. Governments are trustworthy and I can carry on as if they can do no wrong, or
2. I accept that they’ve been lying to us from minute one and they’re beyond evil.

Some of the guys I'm working with, their understanding of the laws of physics are so screwed that they argue 'for' the official conspiracy. This makes me believe that they're the sort of b****** who will make a mistake because of their ineptitude, try to hide it, and then blame you if it ever got out. Not really good for Joe Public though when the plane/train crashes. Maybe we could make the website like a Job agency thing or something as an extra, for like people to identify proficient, ethical engineers? (ethicalengineers.com ?)

I like a bit of advice my Engineering Director recently gave (I’ll have to use this when I get hauled in at work for wasting too much time on the tinternet and being perpetually late from too much late night researching!!!);

"Don't settle for the first explanation of a failure, look into the problem and identify the root cause, as that is the only way you can be sure that it won't happen again". So true in so many ways.

andyb · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject:

Here you go Zoobs Wink

http://ae911truth.org/

Up and running next month!

andyb · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject:

Poacher · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject:

Dig this!

http://digg.com/world_news/Whistleblower_Releases_Blueprints_of_WTC_fo r_9_11_studies

And see here

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/blueprints.html

for Jim Hoffman's updated essay.

Awesome!

Very Happy

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